Alice Brookfield Hand of Lancashire Liverpool After 1871 UK Census

Is this the correct Alice Brookfield. (Aughton (near Ormskirk), Lancashire, England)

birth
Alice Brookfield
Registration Year: 1840
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Ormskirk
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 21
Page: 546

baptism
Alice Brookfield
Baptism Date: 30 Apr 1840
Parish: Aughton, Lancashire, England
Father: Felix Brookfield
Mother: Mary Brookfield
Register Type: Bishop's Transcripts
Reference Number: Drl/2/4

Hi wizard28 Yes this is the same lady! Her son George Frederick Hand was my Grand mothers father he unfortunately died when she was 9 months old(1902). Her name was Marjorie Hand was then changed to Griffiths then she married my Grand father James Haywood Wensley 1896 ?- 1960 they lived in Birkenhead Wallasey uk. Regards OmiOpi19

1851 census
Name: Alice Brookfield
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Daughter (Child)
Father's name: Julis Brookfield
Mother's name: Mary Brookfield
Gender: Female
Where born: Aughton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Clive Street
Occupation: father labourer

Julis Brookfield 46 Julis ( Felix) occ labourer b Lancashire, England
Mary Brookfield 46 occ Milk House b Scarisbrick, Lancashire, England
Margaret Brookfield 12 b Lancashire, England
Alice Brookfield 10 b Lancashire, England
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1861 census
Name: Alice Brookfield
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: 1841
Relation: Daughter (Child)
Father's name: Felix Brookfield
Mother's name: Mary Brookfield
Gender: Female
Where born: Aughton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 3, Prophet Street, West Derby

Felix Brookfield 55
Mary Brookfield 55
Alice Brookfield 20 occ Dressmaker b Aughton, Lancashire, England

This is a bit long winded but a time is best when so much is going on.

Marriage
Name: Frederick Hand [ occ silversmith. address Egerton Street]
Age: Full Age
Marriage Date: 22 Feb 1848
Parish: Liverpool, St Paul
Spouse's Name: Helen Watt [ Widow, address Waterloo ]
Father's name: John Hand [ occ cabinet maker]
Spouse Father's Name: John Parker [ occ gentleman ?]
Reference Number: 283 PAU/3/7
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In 1851 Frederick is living 41 Egerton Street states unmarried occ Com. Traveller
Seem odd to be going from a silversmith to com. taveller.

In 1861 Frederick iv living 18 Church Street states unmarried occ general clerk.

Census 1871
Name: Alice Hand
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Fredk Hand
Gender: Female
Where born: Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: West Derby
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Address: Farnworth Street, West Derby
Registration district: West Derby

Fredk Hand 55 occ Brewers Agent
Alice Hand 31
Ellen Hand 7
George F Hand 5
Frances Hand 3
Sarah Hand 2
Adeline Hand 4 Months
Richard Brooffield 9
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Sometime between the 1871 and 1881 Alice leaves /dies and his new wife 1874 Nannie dies

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Marriage
Name: Frederick Hand
Registration Year: 1874
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 787
Spouse: Nannie Frances Calcutt
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Name: Frederick Hand
Date of Trial: 8 Aug 1874
Trial Year: 1874
Location of Trial: Lancashire, England
Sentence: Imprisonment 5 years Bigamy

Could not find the trial records
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1881 census
Name: Frederick Hand
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Liscard
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address: Sandfield Rd
Marital Status: Widow [ does this mean his first wife as died, is second wife as died or Alice as died ?? ]

Frederick Hand 66
Ellen Hand 16
Frances Hand 13
Sarah Hand 11
Alexander Hand 10
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Death
Name: Frederick Hand
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Registration Year: 1888
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: Birkenhead
Parishes for this Registration District:
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 256

Liverpool Burials
Name: Frederick Hand
Birth Year: abt 1815
Age: 73
Burial Date: 18 Jul 1888
Parish: Edge Hill, St Mary
Reference Number: 283 EDG/4/3
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1891 census
Name: Richard Brookfield
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Stepbrother (Brother)
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: West Derby
Ecclesiastical parish: St Cyprian
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 71 Cotswwold Street
Occupation: Railway Clerk

George F Hand 24
Alexander Hand 20
Ellen Hand 26
Sarah Hand 21
Richard Brookfield 29 States Step Brother ??

Looks like Frederick and Nannie had at least one child which would indicate Alice was gone before 1873/4

Birth
Name: Maud Louisa Hand
Registration Year: 1874
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 532

Baptism
Name: Maude Louisa Hand
Baptism Date: 1 Nov 1874
Parish: Anfield, St Margaret
Father's name: Frederick Hand
Mother's name: Nannie Frances Hand
Reference Number: 283 MRG/2/1

Name: Maud Louisa Hand
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Registration Year: 1890
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 15
Registration district: Birkenhead
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 430

1881 census
Name: Maud Hand
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relationship to Head: Daughter (Child)
Mother: Nannie Hand
Gender: Female
Where born: Lpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 22 Saxon St
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: West Derby (Rural) (7)
ED, institution, or vessel: 5

Nannie Hand 35 occ school mistress, born Ireland married.
Anne Calcutt 60 Mother, born Ireland
Maud Hand 6

1881 was Frederick was living in Liscard Cheshire with his children:

Frederick Hand 66 Widower
Ellen Hand 16
Frances Hand 13
Sarah Hand 11
Alexander Hand 10

So is this another Family

1891
Nannie Hand
[Vannie Calcutt]
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Mother's name: Annie Calcutt
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Poulton with Seacombe
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Seacombe
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: Music teacher

Vannie Hand 45 widow.
Annie Calcutt 75 mother
Patrick Tallon 62 Uncle retired farmer

1911 Irish census
Name: Nannie F Hand
Age: 65
Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation to Head: Head
Residence Date: 2 Apr 1911
Townland/Street: Residents of a house 14.2 in Fairview Avenue (Clontarf West, Part of, Dublin)

Nannie F Hand 65 occ music teacher

Baptism
Name: George Frederick Hand
Birth Date: 15 Apr 1866
Baptism Date: 11 Mar 1867
Parish: Liverpool, St Peter
Father's name: Frederick Hand
Mother's name: Alice Hand
Reference Number: 283 PET/2/60

Name: Sarah Brookfield Hand
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 14 Jun 1869
Birth Place: Seacombe, Cheshire, England
Baptism Date: 31 Aug 1869
Baptism Place: St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father: Frederick Hand
Mother: Alice
FHL Film Number: 1656565

1851 census
Name: Helen Hand
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Blackburn
Civil Parish: Everton
Country: England
Street address: Devonshire Place, Everton
Occupation: living on Annuitant

Helen Hand 32
C J P Watt 14 Apprentice in A Brokers Office b Liverpool
James Watt 11 b Everton
Ado T H Hand 2 b Toxteth Baptism states b Douglas, Isle of Man

1871 census
Name: Helen Hand
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Relation: Mother
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Birkenhead
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

James Wall 31 head of house occ pawnbroker
Ada Frances Hand 26 half sister
Helen Hand 59 mother
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This would tie in with the Bigamy year. on both census Helen listed herself as married

Death
Name: Helen Hand
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Registration Year: 1874
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Birkenhead
Volume: 8a
Page: 329

Helen's birth is listed on various docs from 1809 - 1819
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Birth reg
Name: Ada Frances Ellen Watt Hand
Registration Year: 1849
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 20
Page: 1096

England Births and Christenings
Name: Ada Frances Helen Watt Hand
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 18 Oct 1849
Christening Place: St Peter's, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Birth Date: 23 Feb 1849
Birthplace: Douglas, Isle of Man, UK
Father's Name: Frederick Hand
Mother's Name: Helen Hand
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04348-6 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 1656425

This might be the death of Alice Brookfield /Hand. Could also be why Frederick who died in Birkenhead Cheshire was buried in Liverpool, Edge Hill. St Marys. Perhaps alongside Alice.

Death
Name: Alice Hand
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Registration Year: 1872
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 32
Registration district: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 383

You could try this site to find burials for St Marys Edge Hill. I have used it in the past.

https://www.liverpool.gov.uk/libraries/archives-family-history/

or

Liverpool and South West Lancashire Family History Society
http://Liverpool-geneaology.org.uk

www.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk/liverpool-group/

http://www.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk/

Thanks wizard28 would love to see any other info regarding Hand family do you have any photo's by chance especially George Frederick or Frederick/ Alice/ Helen or Nannie. How far back have you been able to research

regards omiOpi10

Sorry no Photos not related in any way.

Frederick Hand Married Helen Parker Watt after John Watt died! so I am now following James Watt(son of John) born 1840, he lives in Birkenhead he becomes an apprentice pawnbroker for Cothier & Jerrettte, He marries Anne Jane Watt in approx. 1880's they have 7 children . James Watt dies in 1902 leaving everything to Anne she carries on pawnbroker business along side most of the children . Just wondering does anyone know of this pawn brokerage and as to whether the Watt family are still in the Birkenhead area to this day.

Alice Hand was my GG grandmother, She married Frederick hand and had at least 4 surviving children with him. Ellen b1865, Frances b1868, Sarah b1869 and Alexander b1870 (my g grandfather) from what I can gather Alice already had her son Richard Brookfield when she married Frederick. They also had another child Adeline Hand who must have passed at a young age because by 1881 neither Alice or Adeline are on the census. Richard was still with the family in Sandfield Road, Liscard. Alexander Hand married an Elizabeth Roberts and had 4 children, Fred, Alice, Jim and Lillian (my grandmother)who all lived on the Wirral and went on to have children of their own. There was always talk in the family of the Hand family being owed money from Lord Leverhulme over land or property I'm not sure which or where the story originates.