Thanks, didnt realise i hadn't put his birthplace which is lancashire England, and up until he's 15 in the 1911 census we have him in lancashire. But after that we have no idea until 1952 when he marries in lancashire.
Also by the 1911 census walter full name, is walter Crompton Mansfield. In the 1952 marriage certificate it has him down as divorced to Hannah Hyde Mansfield formerly Wakefield spinster but we are struggling to find this marriage as well.
This is some mixed up family. From this census it would suggest Lucy was married twice, once to someone named Mansfield and Holt is her 1 st marriage surname or her maiden name.
1901 England Census Name: Walter Mansfield Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896 Relation: Son Father's Name: George Crompton Gender: Male Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Broughton Ecclesiastical parish: Lower Broughton St Clement County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 13, Allen Street, Broughton Registration District: Salford Sub-registration District: Broughton ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Household Schedule Number: 202
George Crompton 46 Head Married Builders Labourer Bolton, Lancashire Lucy Crompton Mansfield 39 Servant Widow Pendleton, Lancashire Richard Holt 18 Son Builders Labourer Pendleton, Lancashire Hugh Holt 16 Son Bleacher In Dye Works 16 Pendleton, Lancashire George Mansfield 7 Son Salford, Lancashire Walter Mansfield 5 Son Salford, Lancashire Paul Mansfield 3 Son Salford, Lancashire
thats great its been the whole problem, very confusing family. as far as we can make out lucy was married 3 times. She married a george crompton in 1910 as well (we presume its the same one) From 1911 onwards we can't find any records until the marriage in 1952. A confusing family from start to present.
1891 England Census Name: Lucy Mansfield Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Head Where born: Pendleton, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Pendleton Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 1, Oldham Street, Pendleton, Salford Occupation: Weaver Cotton Condition as to marriage: Registration District: Salford Sub-registration District: Pendleton ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Lucy Mansfield 29 All born Pendleton, Lancashire John J Mansfield 11 All Children have the Surname Holt on the org census Richard Mansfield 8 Hugh Mansfield 6
Enlisted as Walter Mansfield. There are 47 images of his military service worth looking at.
British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 about Walter Mansfield Name: Walter Mansfield Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896 Age at enlistment: 19 Residence: 20 Dale St, Farnworth Nr Bolton Document Year: 1915 Regimental Number: 20424 Regiment Name: LN Lancs Number of images: 47
Info from records: mother Lucy Mansfield add as above.
Thanks, didnt realise i hadn't put his birthplace which is lancashire England, and up until he's 15 in the 1911 census we have him in lancashire. But after that we have no idea until 1952 when he marries in lancashire.
Also by the 1911 census walter full name, is walter Crompton Mansfield.
In the 1952 marriage certificate it has him down as divorced to Hannah Hyde Mansfield formerly Wakefield spinster but we are struggling to find this marriage as well.
This is some mixed up family. From this census it would suggest Lucy was married twice, once to someone named Mansfield and Holt is her 1 st marriage surname or her maiden name.
1901 England Census
Name: Walter Mansfield
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George Crompton
Gender: Male
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Broughton
Ecclesiastical parish: Lower Broughton St Clement
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 13, Allen Street, Broughton
Registration District: Salford
Sub-registration District: Broughton
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household Schedule Number: 202
George Crompton 46 Head Married Builders Labourer Bolton, Lancashire
Lucy Crompton Mansfield 39 Servant Widow Pendleton, Lancashire
Richard Holt 18 Son Builders Labourer Pendleton, Lancashire
Hugh Holt 16 Son Bleacher In Dye Works 16 Pendleton, Lancashire
George Mansfield 7 Son Salford, Lancashire
Walter Mansfield 5 Son Salford, Lancashire
Paul Mansfield 3 Son Salford, Lancashire
thats great its been the whole problem, very confusing family. as far as we can make out lucy was married 3 times. She married a george crompton in 1910 as well (we presume its the same one) From 1911 onwards we can't find any records until the marriage in 1952. A confusing family from start to present.
1891 England Census
Name: Lucy Mansfield
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Where born: Pendleton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Pendleton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 1, Oldham Street, Pendleton, Salford
Occupation: Weaver Cotton
Condition as to marriage:
Registration District: Salford
Sub-registration District: Pendleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Lucy Mansfield 29 All born Pendleton, Lancashire
John J Mansfield 11 All Children have the Surname Holt on the org census
Richard Mansfield 8
Hugh Mansfield 6
Enlisted as Walter Mansfield. There are 47 images of his military service worth looking at.
British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 about Walter Mansfield
Name: Walter Mansfield
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Age at enlistment: 19
Residence: 20 Dale St, Farnworth Nr Bolton
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 20424
Regiment Name: LN Lancs
Number of images: 47
Info from records:
mother Lucy Mansfield add as above.
Married Edith Haslem 28/8/1917 in Northwich.
Applied to re-enlist in 1922 states he is single.
marriage reg:
Name: MANSFIELD, Walter
Registration district: Northwich
County: Cheshire
Year of registration: 1917
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's name: Edith Haslam
Volume no: 8A
Page no: 504
Thankyou very much thats a great help. will definitely have a look.
This is probably the marriage for Walters parents, it may give you Lucy's maiden name.
Marriages Dec 1887
HOLT Lucy Salford 8d 29
MANSFIELD Richard Salford 8d 29
this could possibly be Lucy's first marriage
Marriages Sep 1881
DAWSON Lucy Salford 8d 114
Holt William Salford 8d 114
you may need to get a copy of Hugh Holt's birth certificate to get more details on Lucy.
Births Mar 1885
Holt Hugh Oxley Salford 8d 8
I hope that this will help margarethe grafin Von mansfeld
I have more info if interested