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APPS family of Victoria Australia

Journal by ChrisC1

I am looking for a connection between two families thru marriage, the names being APPS, and either of the following ALVES, STAFFORD PUCKEY.
Time frame around 1800 and early 1900 the APPS family had funeral parlors in St Kilda, Brunswick, Fitzroy.

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by tonkin on 2019-07-11 06:50:02

W. G. APPS was an undertaker in Fitzroy and St Kilda about this time but not sure if it's the same APPS family you seek.

Have not found a connection between APPS married to ALVES, STAFFORD or PUCKEY to date.

Do you have any further details to assist with record searches?

by ChrisC1 on 2019-07-11 08:35:16

this is the family I am looking for. I am only going by what my mother used to refer to, she said we were related to them,but cannot find the connection. My mothers family lived around Essendon,Carlton,
Moonee Ponds. My maternal great grandmother born in 1853 was an Alves and married a Stafford and my maternal grandmother born in 1888 married a Puckey. My mother was born in 1918 in Moonee Ponds.Hope this helps.

by tonkin on 2019-07-13 06:21:21

The undertaker W.G. APPS may have been the William George APPS married to Mary Ann KILLICK in 1857 and they had twelve children born in Collingwood and Fitzroy Victoria.

William George APPS died 1918 in St Kilda, Victoria, aged 86 years. His parents were named as James Richard APPS and Sarah BLACKBURN.

Mary died 1910 in St Kilda, Victoria, aged 73 years. Her parents were named as Thomas KILLICK and Margaret COTTON.

I have been following the family lines of William and Mary APPS but have not found a connection between ALVES, STAFFORD or PUCKEY.

Can you can think of any other little details to assist with record searches?

Will let you know if I find any further.

by ChrisC1 on 2019-07-26 08:36:03

I am unable to find or think of any other hints, but I am going to contact my cousins to see
if they can help any further.

by janilye on 2019-07-26 10:42:47

I wasn't successful either.
William George APPS married Mary Ann KILLICK in 1857.
The children of this couple were:
William James, born 1858 died 1861; Mary Margaret, 1860 married Frank USHER in 1884; Sarah Ann,born 1863 married Lewis James APPS in 1884; William George, born 1865 died 1866; Arthur born 1866; Alfred,born 1868 died 1861; Rachel, 1870 died 1871; Bertha Ann,born 1872 married Edmund STEWART/STEWARD in 1897;
The Age Tue 22 Jan 1918 Page 5
The death occurred yesterday, at the
age of 87, of William George Apps, founder
of the well-known firm of undertakers.
He was a native of Ramsgate, Kent, and
came to Australia in 1854. Three years
later he took up his residence in Fitzroy
and lived in that sulburb for many years.
In 1893 he went to St. Kilda, and no longer
took any active part in the business. Major
E. T. Apps, of the Victorian military
forces, is a son of deceased, and a grand
son, Captain C. Apps, in on active service
with the 4th Light Horse. Deceased leaves
three sons and three daughters.
The funeral will leave his late residence,
"Edgecombe" Robe-street, St.Kilda, at 4 pm
to-day for the St. Kilda Cemetery.
Event: deaths
Registration number 3212 / 1918
Family name: APPS
Given name(s) Wm Geo
Place of event: St Kilda, Australia
Mother's name: Sarah
Mother's family name at birth: BLACKBURN
Father's Name: Apps James Richard
These two below are the only two I am able to link through BD&M
(pretty remote)
Victoria BD&M
Event: marriages
Registration number 3710 / 1872
Family name: ALVES
Given name(s) Mary Anne
Personal detail
Spouse's family name: STAFFORD
Spouse's given name(s) John

Event: marriages
Registration number 11780 / 1914
Family name: PUCKEY
Given name(s) Aubrey
Personal detail
Spouse's family name: STAFFORD
Spouse's given name(s) Olive Marguerite

by janilye on 2019-07-26 10:49:31

You might like to see these notices for your Great Grandmother
The Argus Thursday 25 May 1944 Page 2
STAFFORD.— On May 24, at North road,
East Bentleigh, Mary Anne, loved wife of
the late John Stafford, and loved mother
of George (deceased), Victor (deceased),
Lily (deceased), Violet (deceased), Thomas,
Daisy Kersie (deceased), Daphne Christen-
sen, Myrtle Linfoot, Olive Puckey, Rose
(deceased), Joseph, and Reginald, grand-
mother of Lily Brock and George Linfoot.
STAFFORD (nee Alves).—On May 24, at
the residence of her daughter, Daphne (Mrs.
Christensen), North road, East Bentleigh,
Mary Anne, loving Gran of Lily and Hardy
Brock, loved great-grandmother of Roland,
Nancy and Devan, also beloved grandmother
of Henry, Herbert, Richard, and Earl Kersey
(A.I.F.). —At rest. (Inserted by Lily and
STAFFORD (nee Alves).—On May 24, at
the residence of her daughter (Mrs. H. F.
Christensen), Mary Anne, loved grandmother
of Eileen, loved great-grandmother of Reg
(deceased), Lily, and Patricia, aged 91 years
6 months. — At rest. (Inserted by her
granddaughter Eileen, husband Walter, and
great-grandchildren Lily and Patricia.)

by tonkin on 2019-07-29 03:15:11

Did John STAFFORD married to Mary ALVES have a brother named William STAFFORD?

by ChrisC1 on 2019-07-29 05:28:55

I will look further into it, but my only information from family trees is that he had 3 sisters Jane 1839-1879 died in Victoria, Matilda 1840-1904, Mary Ann 1833-1920. Parents Mary Kerr, Jarriett Stafford born in Ireland.

by tonkin on 2019-08-27 15:41:06

This journal may assist you with your research.
If not it may help others.
STAFFORD John married Mary ALVES 1872

by ChrisC1 on 2019-08-29 02:01:49

Thank you I have just signed up to join a few weeks ago.

by tonkin on 2019-09-05 09:11:36
by ChrisC1 on 2019-10-09 06:13:13

I am looking for marriage around late 1920 thru to 1950s

by tonkin on 2019-10-09 08:14:55

It would help if you included names and location of marriage to assist with record searches.

by ChrisC1 on 2019-10-10 08:04:26

I understand requesting further information regarding the above would help, but due to the family dynamics it is hard for me to do so. In saying so my grandmother married a Puckey originally in 1914, but was estranged from him from time to time and eventually separated I think from around 1937.
She often used other surnames ie Stafford{maiden name}, Hadley ,and on her death certificate her surname was Apps, her Christian names were Olive Marguerite. Family members talk of some connection to the Apps.
I am trying on Ancestry to find a connection thru family trees, BDMs in Victoria,and divorces but so far nothing is showing up.

The location would probably be in the area of Fitzroy,Carlton,Brunswick, Moonee Ponds in Victoria but not 100% sure.
Unfortunately that is all I can fill you in on.

by ChrisC1 on 2019-10-15 11:16:47

by tonkin on 2019-10-16 00:31:41

Nothing recorded in the Victorian Marriage Records for Olive's marriage to APPS so the marriage must have taken place after 1950. Does her death certificate name her husband?

by tonkin on 2019-10-16 04:04:05

I expect this may be Olive's death.
Let me know if I'm wrong.

Name: Olive APPS.
Died: 1988 in Kew, Victoria.
Age: 95 years.
Father: Unknown.
Mother: Unknown.
Husband's name: Unknown.
Source: Registration of Deaths, Victoria.
Registration Number: 11381.

It appears the informant did not know Olive very well.
... Who was the informant?

Olive was buried in a lone grave at Andersons Creek Cemetery, Victoria, on the 29 February 1988.

by ChrisC1 on 2019-10-16 12:18:36

Thanks Tonkin,
You are correct regarding, death date, place, and burial site, age is incorrect she was born in 1888 but that is what was on the death certificate,no other details were noted.
The gentleman at BDMs told me this is common for people who die in institutions not to have personal family details.
Her parents were John Stafford, Mary Ann Alves. I have no idea who the informant was.
I am hoping to find out more about her thru FOI and PROV .

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