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Charlotte Sanders and Walter Sanders were married , and my Grandfather William Herbert Sanders was abt 3 in 1906, but i cannot find the maiden name of my great grandmother Charlotte Sanders

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on 2013-10-07 18:49:12

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by asheppard on 2013-10-08 02:31:59

This could possibly be their marriage, a copy of the certificate will give you more details

from freebmd.org.uk

Marriages Jun 1886

HEYES Charlotte Coventry 6d 691
SANDERS Walter Edwin Coventry 6d 691


Possible birth of William Herbert Sanders

Births Dec 1903
Sanders William Herbert Solihull 6d 638

1911 Census

County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: 82 Deankins Rd Hay Mill

Household Members:
Name Age
Walter Edwin Sanders 44 born Coventry Occ: Tool Maker
Charlotte Sanders 47 born Prescot
Charlotte Sanders 23
George Henry Sanders 18
Marguerite Helen Sanders 16
Hilda May Sanders 14
Kenneth Leeson Sanders 12
Arthur Sanders 9 (reads Arthur Tasker Saunders)
William Derbert Sanders 7 (reads William Herbert Sanders)

The census record does state that William was born in Hay Mills Lancashire but the Birth record for him says Solihull same for Arthur and Kenneth. The other children are recorded as born Small Heath Birmingham.

From the 1891 & 1901 Census these appear to be the Children of Walter Edwin & Charlotte Sanders

from freebmd

Walter Edwin b 1886 Coventry
Charlotte b 1888 Aston
Winifred Annie b 1890 Aston
George Henry b 1893 Aston
Marguerite Ellen b 1895 Aston
Hilda May b 1897 Aston
Kenneth Leeson b 1899 Solihull
Arthur Tasker b 1901 Solihull
William Herbert b 1903 Solihull

you will need to purchase the certificates to verify any details

by noggin on 2013-10-08 04:58:53

This looks like Charlotte and family in 1871

"England and Wales Census, 1871"
Name: Charlotta Hayes
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Female
Age: 7
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Birthplace: Haydock, Lancashire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Coventry
Sub-District: St John
Parish: St Michael
County: Warwickshire

Self Mathew Hayes 34 Eccleston, Lancashire
Wife Susan Hayes 48 Massingham, Norfolk
Daughter Ellen Hayes 13 Prescott, Lancashire
Daughter Charlotta Hayes 7 Haydock, Lancashire
Son Mathew H Hayes 4 Coventry, Warwickshire

by noggin on 2013-10-08 06:09:09

This looks like Ellen the sister of Charlotte b 1871

1861 England Census
Name: Ellen Heyes
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Matthew Heyes
Mother's Name: Anne Heyes
Gender: Female
Where born: Prescot, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Prescot
Town: Prescot
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: Hillock Street, Prescot
Registration District: Prescot
Sub-registration District: Prescot
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 118

Matthew Heyes 24
Anne Heyes 27
Ellen Heyes 3
John Heyes 1

From the above it would indicate that Mathew married twice, 1861 shows Anne as wife, in 1871 it is Susan.

by noggin on 2013-10-08 06:24:48

"England Marriages, 1538?1973 "
Name: Matthew Heyes
Spouse's Name: Ann Tasker
Event Date: 12 May 1856
Event Place: Liverpool, Lancaster, England
Father's Name: Thomas Heyes
Spouse's Father's Name: James Tasker
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00714-4
System Origin: England-EASy

"England, Warwickshire Parish Registers, 1538-1900"
Name: Matthew Heyes
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 06 Mar 1871
Event Place: St Michael, Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Widowed
Spouse's Name: Susan Symonds
Spouse's Marital Status: Widowed
GS Film number: 555343
Digital Folder Number: 4290911
Image Number: 00283
GS Film number: 1656679
Reference ID: it 2, p 77, no 153

by noggin on 2013-10-08 06:26:39

"England and Wales Census, 1881"
Name: Mathew Hayes
Age (Original): 45
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1836
Birthplace: Lancaster Ecclestone
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Watch Balance Maker
Address: 12 Hope St
Event Place: Coventry St Michael With St John, Warwickshire, England
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341732
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 3069 / 87
Page Number: 25

Head Mathew Hayes M 45 Lancaster Ecclestone
Wife Susan Hayes F 59 Massingham, Norfolk, England
Daughter Ellen Hayes F 23 Lancaster Prescott
Daughter Charlotte Hayes F 17 Lancaster Prescott
Son Mathew H Hayes M 14 Earlsdon, Warwickshire, England
Daughter Annie Hayes F 12 Earlsdon, Warwickshire, England

by AlisonParrack on 2013-10-08 18:58:56

Thank you ashepheard for your help and I am certain that you are correct in your findings, and it amazes me to read all about this, it was with great joy this morning that i was able to fill in the gaps in the family tree and to confirm my great grandmother's maiden name ! Thank you for all the additional information too, I am so amazed and only wish that there were photographs to go with the people, how fantastic it would be. Its weird how affectionate you can feel towards a mere name when you know that were it not for them, you wouldn't be here yourself today.
THank you very much for submitting me information that i don't have access to myself currently.

by AlisonParrack on 2013-10-08 19:09:28

Thank you Noggin for your help and for taking the family records even further back, you have been so kind to share this information to me, and I look forward to plotting this data into the family tree I am building, and look forward to seeing it printed out and framed or laminated and preserved that way. YOu are very kind to help me like this and it was super to read the names of Charlotte Heyes and her forefathers.. or foremothers, well, her family. It is interesting to see the surname Tasker, because my grandfather's brother, son of Charlotte Heyes, and Walter Sanders,
born 1903, well his brother was called Arther ( Tasker ) Sanders, and I actually met Uncle Tass many years ago when i was a child, since he was the second youngest..my grandfather being the youngest. I always thought is a curious name, Tass, but ,now I am even more curious, because this is the surname of the first wife of her father... Anne Tass, who became Anne Heyes.. such a connection is curious and one wonders if it was to please her father in memory of Anne. However, was her father still alive in 1903? Thank you again, for your help, and sharing that which i am not able to see at present.

Thank you very much.

by AlisonParrack on 2013-10-09 05:35:33

hello Noggin,

I read this very late last night ,and again am looking at it this morning. It would appear that there is a child John Hayes, who does not appear on later census ? This suggests that he died ? He was only 1 years old in the 1861 census, but does not appear on the 1871 census, does this suggest that John died before the 1871 census ? Can you find out ? I am very grateful to you for all that you have done .
Alison Parrack

by noggin on 2013-10-10 06:56:47

There are a number of John Heyes death betwen 1861 & 1871 for Prescot. The one below
is the only one showing an age at death. This might be you John but the death was registered Apr-May-Jun. The census is usually taken in the 1st week in April so he could have died before the census.

Death

Name: John Heyes
Registration district: Prescot
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1871
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 10
Volume no: 8B
Page no: 555

by AlisonParrack on 2013-10-11 04:12:52

Thank you Noggin for death details regarding John Heyes.This does tally with the age of death and reference to birth on census..estimated, and districts. .pity the parents names are not given. I am cataloging the information
as you have provided it and it is shaping up very well.Thank you for your help . any further evidence would appreciated. ..if there is a way of confirming poor young John Heyes short life I would value it.
Thank you fir all your gelp so far it is priceless!

by AlisonParrack on 2013-10-11 05:35:41

Would registration of death be available for Mathew Heyes father of Charlotte Heyes, married to Ann Tasker 1856 and Susan Symonds 1871?The latest record of him is the 1881 census when he was 45.I know you have helped me so much already..this detail would be helpful for the family tree...I think it would complete the relevant blood line dates for the maternal side of William Herbert Sanders...Mathew Heyes being I believe his maternal grand father.
Hopefully it will be possible and thank you for all your previous assistance.

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