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I have read bits and pieces of your journals and find them fascinating. I am trying to ascertain where the farms of John Crighton and Henry Parker exactly were along Saltwater. I believe John Crighton was born at sea however on his marriage certificate (1880) to Rebecca Rachel Parker, both state their places of birth as Keilor, Vic. Rebecca's birth place is registered as Saltwater (b.1859).

I'm wondering with your knowledge of the areas, if you could help me find the locations please? Any information would be of great interest and much appreciated.

No longer having access to my rates transcriptions, I cannot be certain, but I don't remember either family being assessed in the oldest records available circa 1989 (Keilor 1868, Broadmeadows 1863.)I had , however, seen the name, Crighton.

The boundaries of section 22 are indicated by: Thomas St/Barrie Rd, Sharps Rd, Nomad Rd. and the Fraser/ King St. midline. Information regarding its occupants comes mainly from Keilor Shire?s rate records except for lots B and D, which were in Broadmeadows Shire.
ALLOTMENT F of 147 acres between Fraser St. and Parer Rd., was granted to early squatters, A.Wright and J.& T.Crighton in 1848 and in 1868 it was being farmed by John Commons. Its eastern boundary was the same as for allotment E.
ALLOTMENT E consisted of 128 acres and extended north to Moore Rd. In 1868 it is likely that Sam.Mansfield had lot E as well as his 56 acres in section 16 and 87 acres in 22c as another property of 130 acres is listed. At the turn of the century, Robert G.Stevenson was leasing lot F, part of St Johns between Bulla Rd and Treadwell Rd (Wirraway and Nomad Rds.), lot E (which was mistakenly called lot G) and a few small blocks between Bulla Rd. and a now-closed road*. This gave him a total of 329 acres.
(* This road left Bulla Rd. at Webb St. to run to the corner of English St. and Nomad Rd., the n.w. corner of section 16. The 1860 survey map shows this road finishing at the north boundary of 17B. It may have been the original road to the Springs or the old Macedon Rd,which title deeds show to have cut, respectively, though section 15 and section 21.)
Rupert Percy Steele was leasing Niddrie and a memo reveals that Steele had taken over lot F and Maurice Quinlan lot E plus the s.w. corner of St. Johns.
ALLOTMENT C, between Moore St. and Dromana Ave., granted to J.P.Fawkner, was occupied in 1868 by: Sam. Mansfield 87 acres, J.B.Howse 17 acres and Catherine Howse 9 acres and licenced house.

Maps cannot be pasted.
ALLOTMENT A of 87 acres, was granted to W.Hall according to the parish map.
On 25-9-1851, Joseph Hall mortgaged it to Charles Payne for 100 pounds and Payne
reconveyed it to Hall on 13-1-1853 (N 614 and T 654). On 10-7-1877, it was sold to James Sharp.
It is advisable to read section 21 regarding James Sharp?s ?Hillside? at this point.
It is unclear who had lot A in 1868 but in 1889, J & A. McNab were leasing 187 ? acres
from G.W.Taylor (Hillside including 22A apart from Sharp?s 8 acre homestead block).
By 1992 James Sharp seems to have used G.W.Taylor?s forfeited payments on Hillside
to extend his farm. At this time, Thomas Nash had begun a lease on 294 acres of the
expanded 302 acre Hillside.
This continued into the next century. Nash was followed by P.R.Johnson before 1913.
The Thomas Family bought Hillside in about 1940 and called it Carinya Park.
Thomas St in Airport West is near the s.e. corner of James Sharp?s original 133 acres
of section 21.
In the mid-1950?s Joe Thomas sold lot A to Caterpillar.

Family historians must be very careful regarding parish maps. Updates were often produced, particularly during the boom decade of the 1880's. There are two maps of the parish of Doutta Galla available online and neither is the one showing the date on which the grant for 22F was issued. This map was among the material that I gave to the Hume Library system when I left Tullamarine. I have no further information about the location of the Crighton farm. I would presume that the grantees were relatives, friends or business associates. This is not necessarily so though. George Coghill(squatter) and John Pascoe Fawkner (avowed enemy of squatters) jointly received the grant for 13A, Tullamarine, the northern part becoming part of Glencairne soon afterwards and the southern half, part of Fawkner's subdivision straddling Mansfields Rd.

Allotment F of section 22 may have been the pre-emptive right and Wright and the Crightons may have held a depasturing licence from the Crown for all of section 22, and perhaps adjoining land, prior to 1848. This could be checked by entering the surnames and depasturing licence on trove.

The Parkers could have been longtime friends of the Crightons living on 22F. If they had their own farm, there were only certain areas of the parish of Doutta Galla where it could have been.
Angela Evans' website BIRTHS REGISTERED IN THE KEILOR DISTRICT (from 1851)lists Margaret Parker born in Doutta Galla in 1863 . Her parents were given as Henry Parker and Mary Rogerson . Aha!, I thought, I'll just refer to my BLAIRS OF ESSENDON journal and find exactly where John Dick's land was. However ROOTSWEB WORLD CONNECT makes it clear that the mother's maiden name was actually Rogers, not Rogerson. This website, which gives Margaret's birth as 1864 ,has two other bits of information about the children of Henry Parker and Ann Rogers that interest me. Mary Ann married James Patullo (also detailed in PATILLO FAMILY), and Sarah's second given name was Beale, suggesting a relationship by marriage to the family of John Beale of Shelton.

Jessica is not listed as a child of Henry and Mary so she may have been their niece. Just as James and Thomas were grantees of 22F, the Parker brothers may have settled together.

I would suggest three areas in the parish of Doutta Galla where the Parkers may have settled.
1. Section 16, bounded by English St, Carnarvon Rd, Woodlands St, Keilor Rd and TreadwellSt-Nomad Rd which almost adjoins the Crighton's 22F.They may have been leasing land from the Crown and then from David Mairs.
2. Crown Allotment B of section 11, bounded by Clarks Rd, Rachelle Rd, Buckley St and North Pole (Milleara) Rd. Much of this became John Beale's "Shelton" but was another J.P.Fawkner subdivision (circa 1850) aimed at helping his beloved yoeman farmers to obtain freeholds.References to Saltwater River would make this location more likely than number 1.
3. Land between St Augustines and the river, leasing from David Mairs or others.

See the Patullo journal.

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on 2012-02-19 17:38:40

Itellya is researching local history on the Mornington Peninsula and is willing to help family historians with information about the area between Somerville and Blairgowrie. He has extensive information about Henry Gomm of Somerville, Joseph Porta (Victoria's first bellows manufacturer) and Captain Adams of Rosebud.

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by highview on 2012-02-20 16:40:32

Thanks very much itellya for your informative reply. Your journals make interesting reading and give a wonderful insight into areas that are quite familiar to me.

Henry Parker married Mary Rogers in 1852 Victoria. Mary's mother was Margaret Kerr born Wexford, Ireland, she married James George Ro(d)gers in Wexford 1832. When James died young, Margaret remarried John Beale from Dublin in 1844 and the couple set up home in the Shire of Keilor. As you well know, the Beale property was named 'Shelton.'

The Beale, Crighton and Parker properties must have been close by. Henry and Mary Parker's daughter Rachel Rebecca Parker, married John Crighton in 'Keilor.' The couple eventually moved to Numurkah to farm. I agree the most likely area for the Parker farm is point 2. Somewhere I have seen a reference to the North Pole Inn on someone's research, I will have to follow it up but that ties in with the location of the Beale property.

Many thanks again for your help, knowledge and time itellya.

by itellya on 2012-02-20 17:41:10


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