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Dyke, Samuel - Oldest Known Dyke relative

Query by RDyke

I'd like to find out if Sam's parents died in Levin New Zealand and where they originally sailed from. Sam was born in 1875 but not sure where. Maybe New Zealand or maybe Britain. He died in Brisbane in 1959. He had 3 children; Frank, Fred and Molly. Frank was my Father's (Graham) Father. Frank died in Surfers Paradise around 1981. Sam fought in the Boer War and probably enlisted in Melbourne. He is on the 1911 electoral roll in New Zealand and from then on in Queensland.

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by Crawford on 2013-08-17 05:41:54

Hi there RDyke,
Samuel Dyke died in Brisbane in 1959. Ref 1959/B33685
Have a look at this site-
https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au
It says he was born in Dunedin NZ and was aged 84 years.
There is also a death of Doris Agnes Dyke in 1975. Ref -1975/B61132. Her father is listed as Stewart William Chippindall and her mother was Louisa Millers.

I have looked at the NZ embarkation lists for Boer War, but can't find him - one possibility was a C Dyke from Otago??
http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/war/new-zealand-in-the-south-african-boer-war/database

There are no Dkye in the Australian Archives for the Boer War. So it looks like NZ is the most likely place of enlistment. Have tried variations of the spelling as well but no luck.
Hope this helps.
Regards.
R.

by Crawford on 2013-08-17 05:57:03

Hi again,
On looking further at Brisbane BDM - Doris Agnes Chippindall was born in 1911 in Brisbane. Ref-1911/C4544
That's a 36 year difference between her and Samuel Dyke, so... was she his wife?
Regards
R.

by Crawford on 2013-08-17 06:08:08

Ohhh I chip away slowly,
Frank Died in 1982 Ref-1982/1451 and his father was Samuel and his mother was Emily.
Doris Agnes Chippindall was married to Frank Charles Dyke in 1933 in Brisbane - Ref1933/B15050
Regards
R.

by Crawford on 2013-08-17 06:13:02

Frederick Samuel Dyke married Avery Yvonne Gordon in Brisbane in 1935
Ref-1935/B22505

There is also a Mary Agnes Dyke (is this Molly??) who married Francis Keane in 1928 in Brisbane. Ref 1928/B4725

by Crawford on 2013-08-17 07:06:34

Samuel Dyke was born 31 October 1875 in NZ to Elizabeth and Charles Dyke.
NZ BDM Ref 1875/14832

Charles Dyke and Elizabeth Dyke nee Hubbard were married in NZ on 17 June 1867.
According to BDM records Elizabeth and Charles Dyke had 17 children born in NZ between 1868 and 1893.

They had a son named Charles born 1870 and he (?) went to the Boer War - not Samuel? Charles Dyke (Jnr) was a member of the Third Contingent of the NZ Rough Riders.
Charles returned to Wanganui, NZ on board the ss Tongariro from Capetown in April 1901.
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz
Wanganui Herald, Volume XXXV, Issue 10314, 17 April 1901, Page 2

It looks like Charles Dyke (Snr) died in NZ in 1897 aged 58 years (born 1839)Ref 1897/2401.
You will need to check and confirm that this information is correct - I'm just browsing through online records and papers past.
Regards
R.

by Crawford on 2013-08-17 07:16:35

I thought I'd found enough, but here is some more - 2 of Samuel's brothers were killed in action in WW1. Some families faced some terrible loses!

FOR THE EMPIRE'S CAUSE.

DEATHS. DYKE.?On July 28. 1916, killed in action, Herbert Jubilee, sixth son of Elizabeth and the late Charles Dyke (late of Patearoa); aged 29 years. Nobly doing his duty.
Otago Daily Times , Issue 16763, 3 August 1916, Page 4

FOR THE EMPIRE'S CAUSE.

DEATH. November 14, 1917, killed while in action Somewhere in Egypt," Trooper J. B. Dyke, ninth .and youngest son of Elizabeth and the late Charles Dyke, of Patearoa. A man's life, a mother's sacrifice for King and Country.
Otago Daily Times , Issue 17185, 12 December 1917, Page 4

by RDyke on 2013-08-17 23:16:29

Dear R Crawford

Wow! Thank you so much. This is amazing information. I'll do as you suggest and investigate further but it is wonderful. I had no idea who his parents were. I also realise now that I had the wrong woman as his wife as my Grandmother used to be nicknamed Chip. It must have been her parents I once met a long time ago. You've given me so much to work on. Thanks so much again.

Kind regards
RDyke

by RDyke on 2013-08-17 23:18:30

Dear R Crawford

Wow! Thank you so much. This is amazing information. I'll do as you suggest and investigate further but it is wonderful. I had no idea who his parents were. I also realise now that I had the wrong woman as his wife as my Grandmother used to be nicknamed Chip. It must have been her parents I once met a long time ago. You've given me so much to work on. Thanks so much again.

Kind regards
RDyke

by RDyke on 2013-08-17 23:55:41

Dear R Crawford, again.
I hope you get this as I'm not sure if I'm using the response option correctly. I think I found the right Samuel Dyke in the Australian War Memorial records. It says he was in the 5th Mounted Rifle Contingent and has two service records: 776 and 197. It lists the conflict as the Boer War. Maybe he went in two waves. He may have also travelled to Australia to enlist though not sure why. He would have been 24 when the war began.(I'm very new at this). Is there a charge I need to pay if I access BDM records in NZ? Would you suggest I look at shipping records for around 1899 to see if Sam went to Australia? Any suggestions would be wonderful.

Thanks again
RDyke

by Crawford on 2013-08-18 03:55:15

Hi there RDyke, glad to be of help :)

You are able to browse through the NZ BDM digital records- https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search/
But if you want to order a record then you have to pay. They email the records to you within a few days.
Papers Past is a free NZ digitised newspaper site. It often turns some interesting information.
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast

Here are two a cemetery search databases that might help you. I found Elizabeth Dyke nee Hubbard. She is buried in Dunedin.

http://www.localgovt.co.nz/site/Recource_Library/activities_services/services/cemeteries/Cemeteries_Search_Models.aspx

http://www.clanfraser.org.nz/genealogy/cemeterylinks.html
This one is quite good because it allows a search of the Commonwealth War Graves Commission. Samuels' two brothers are listed there.

Good luck.
with kind regards
R.

by RDyke on 2013-08-18 04:01:38

Thanks R, I'm truly grateful. I just spoke to my Father and he is very impressed at how far you've got me in this project. Sam didn't talk at all about his past. Dad was amazed that he was one of 17. My next plan is to find out where Charles was born and work back from there.

Many thanks again. In particular for the links.
Regards
RDyke

by AlyceM on 2014-04-12 06:19:41

Hi RDyke

I am a direct descendant of Charles (Snr)Dyke'sister Eliza. Charles was born in Sydenham, Kent. There father was Aaron Dyke and Elizabeth Marie Wilson. Aarons parents were Mary Howard and Moses Dyke (query as I have found a Christening for an Aaron Howard in Parish Church, West Wickham, Kent. Idon'tknow how much information you have, but i can send you copies of certificates for Aaron and more.

Please let me know.

Alyce, daughter of Edith Dyke, William Dyke, William Dyke (Born Illeg), Eliza Dyke Born 1837, Aaron, Moses Dyke.

by RDyke on 2014-04-13 09:09:04

Dear Alyce, Thank you so much for getting in touch. I would be very grateful to have copies of certificates. I had gone off track with tracing the Dyke family as I couldn't easily find Sam's record of his passage to Australia. I believe Sam was one of Charles' sons and my Father is Sam's Grandson. This was the missing link. It seems clear that Charles and Elizabeth were Sam's parents but I really need a record of him leaving NZ to be sure so that I can work backwards from there. He joined the 5th Mounted Rifle Contingent around 1901 at the MCG in Melbourne but can't trace anything prior to that. I have a birth and death certificate for Sam.
I would love to know more about Charles and Elizabeth. I can give you my email address if you are willing to scan the certificates to me. Anything you know about Charles and when he arrived in NZ would be much appreciated.
Many thanks and regards
RDyke

by AlyceM on 2014-04-27 08:03:23

Hi R

It was lovely to hear from you. Send me your E-mail address and I will scan you some certificates. There is quite a lot on the NZ website about Samuels brothers who died in the 1st WW and they hae a good newspaper section which give you some articles about family members.

At my local library on ancestry and found a marriage for a Saml Dyke to Emily Forrest 1905 in Victoria. Also found them living in Elsternwick, Victoria in 1909:
Dyke Emily - Head Street -home duties
Dyke Samuel - Head Street - Builder

Do you know if Emily's family came from Victoria?

Have you got a copy of Samuel and Emily wedding certificate? Hopefully it will show his fathers name? I saw on Samuel death it didn't mention his parents names.

I see you have a copy of Samuels birth certificate did it say Charles Dyke and Elizabeth Hubbard?

Hope to hear from you
Alyce

by RDyke on 2014-04-27 21:23:17

Hi Alyce

My email is robyn.victory@csiro.au
I do have Sam's birth Certificate. It does have Charles and Elizabeth on it. I guess I was just not 100% sure of everything until I got Sam's name on a passenger list to Australia. If you have any clues as to the best way I can find that information I would appreciate it. What are the best sites to look at for passengers leaving NZ or the best sites for passengers arriving in Australia. I've been a bit distracted lately so haven't been able to give this the time I would like. Hoping to get back into it in a few weeks. You've certainly given me inspiration. Many thanks again and look forward to hearing from you. Regards Robyn

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