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Does anyone have any research information on John Fletcher (schoolmaster) and Mary Fletcher, parents of Josiah Fletcher born in Manchester on the 20 Oct 1816

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on 2014-01-04 21:38:37

edf , from Busselton, Western Australia, has been a Family Tree Circles member since Dec 2013.

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by ngairedith on 2014-01-04 22:04:33

hello edf,
Ann Hall died 23 April 1873 aged 73
she is buried at Green Gully cemetery with William Ibbotson (1852-1869)

by tonkin on 2014-01-04 22:40:07


Name: Ann HALL.
Birth place: Gloucester.
Died: 1873 Victoria.
Age: 72 years.
Father: John STEVENS.
Mother: Not recorded.
Ref: Registry of Deaths, Victoria. Reg #5031.

by tonkin on 2014-01-04 22:50:04

And the young man buried with Ann HALL.

Name: William IBBOTSON.
Birth place: York.
Died: 1869 Victoria.
Age: 17 years.
Father: William IBBOTSON.
Mother: Ellen SENIOR.
Ref: Registry of Deaths, Victoria. Reg #2289.

by edf on 2014-01-04 23:21:40

ngairedith, many thanks for that information, would you happen to know if Anne Hall was previously married to Josiah Fletcher prior to marrying George Hall and would you know what relationship young William Ibbotson is to Anne Hall

by edf on 2014-01-04 23:26:09

Hi tonkin, the Anne Hall (knee bird) I am researching was born in Ireland in 1819 and migrated to Australia with her first husband Josiah Fletcher onboard the Barque Salsette in 1841....can you confirm we are talking about the same Anne Hall....thanks edf

by ngairedith on 2014-01-05 00:10:45

no I don't yet know the relationship but here are the details of his death:
Te Argus, 2 March 1869 The Daylesford Mercury relates that, on Thursday afternoon, a shocking and fatal accident happened at the Dry Diggings. Mr. Ibbotson, farmer, of Newstead, was returning home with a load of timber, from Musk Creek saw-mills, and the material was drawn by a team of bullocks in a waggon. When at the foot of the hill, at the entrance from the Daylesford-road to the Dry Diggings township, the father then being on the waggon, his son William, a fine youth of seventeen, who was walking alongside, attempted to release the break. In some unknown way he fell down, and though Mr. Ibbotson saw the young man's danger he could not stop the team in time to prevent the near wheels passing over the chest of the deceased. Mr. Ibbotson immediately jumped off and caught up his son, but he was lifeless. Death must have been instantaneous.

by ngairedith on 2014-01-05 00:25:57

does this ring any bells in your research?

the Primitive Methodist Church at Lyons street, Newstead began their services in the home of William Ibbotson who was the first owner of the land. He offered the site to the Church members for half of what he had paid for it and then gave them another quarter acre as well. The church was opened 30 Nov 1860. The building was purchased by the Masonic Lodge in 1907. The Methodist Church (1907) became the Uniting Church in 1977. It is now operating as Ranters Chapel Retreat, a Bed & Breakfast at 17 Lyon Street, Newstead (near Maldon and Castlemaine)

by tonkin on 2014-01-05 00:35:56

Hi edf ... You were looking for confirmation that the Anne HALL that died about 1873 was buried at the Green Gully Cemetery in Victoria. Comments posted by ngairedith and myself confirmed she was.

If the informant for Ann's death gave the correct information the Ann HALL that died in 1873 was born about 1800 in Gloucester and her maided name was STEVENS.

I think this confirms this 'is not' the Ann HALL, nee BIRD, you seek born 1819 in Ireland.

It appears you are looking for the death of Ann HALL, nee FLETCHER, nee BIRD.
Will do a few record searches and try and find her for you.


by ngairedith on 2014-01-05 00:42:06

the husbands etc of Ann Bird was nutted out by janilye & tonkin in May 2011

by ngairedith on 2014-01-05 00:47:53

keeping all the relevant postings together:


... JOSIAH FLETCHER + ANN BIRD (FLETCHER) came to Aust 1841 with 2 children EDMUND 3yr GEORGE 14 months. They sailed from LIVERPOOL. JOSIAH died 1845 Collingwood. ANN remarried 1846 to GEORGE HALL

by edf on 2014-01-05 01:54:47

ngaiedith, thanks for the information from which I can see that the Anne Hall buried at Green Gully is not my G.G. Grandmother, however the Anne (Bird) Hall that janilye and Tonkin have already nutted out is the correct Anne Hall, do you have any details about her up to her death, did she remarry after George Hall, date she passed away and location would be extremely helpful...... many thanks edf

by edf on 2014-01-05 01:58:07

Thanks tonkin, I would appreciate your assistance

by edf on 2014-01-05 01:58:18

Thanks tonkin, I would appreciate your assistance

by edf on 2014-01-10 01:52:58

Hi Tonkin, could you please forward me the list of husbands and any other info on Ann Bird Fletcher Hall, that you and janilie researched in may 2011, I have looked and cant find it recorded anywhere many thanks..edf

by tonkin on 2014-01-10 19:37:33

Hi edf.

Any details janilye and I picked up on Ann appear in the comments section of journals by lynda1. If you click on the 'Ann Bird' link from ngairedith above you will be taken to that journal, or you could contact lynda1.

I've had no luck finding another marriage or death for Ann to date. I will let you know if my luck changes.


by edf on 2014-01-10 21:05:27

Hi Tonkin, I read the journal and will fax the archivist at St James as suggested by janilye and if I find anything I will keep you and ngairedith in the loop ....many thanks

by lynda1 on 2014-01-22 06:22:58

Edf Looking on the net.I think William Ibbotson was Ann Bird -.Hall's
grandson. Look up Cawthorne-Ibbotson


by edf on 2014-01-23 03:16:28

lynda1, the Ann Hall buried at Green Gully with young William Ibbotson was born in Gloucester and not in Ireland and her maiden name was Ann Stevens (not Bird)and she was the daughter of John Stevens.....
The Cawthorne- Ibbotson link is very confusing and I still think our Ann Bird - Fletcher - Hall is buried at the old St James in Docklands cemetery in Vict...but I cant find anyone there who can assist us as we don't know her married name after George Hall died or if indeed she re-married....edf

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