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GEORGE BAKER, LIME MERCHANT INVOLVED NEAR PORT PHILLIP HEADS AND HIS DEVINE FIRST WIFE, VIC., AUST.

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WHO BUILT CLARK'S COTTAGE AT SORRENTO? AND AN UNEXPECTED BONUS RE THE LIME INDUSTRY! ALSO, GEORGE BAKER IN THE LIMELIGHT!
http://www.nepeanconservationgroup.org.au/14/130010.ashx

Was it Henry Cadby Wells who burnt lime with Robert Rowley in the early 1840's, (during which time his first surviving child, Polly, later Mrs David Kelly, was born on the site of the Koonya Hotel soon after his arrival) and partnered Robert Rowley again from 1849 in a successful but short lived crayfishing venture?
http://www.angelfire.com/al/chinabella/WellsStories_1_.html

EventBirth Event registration number12619 Registration year1841
Personal information
Family nameWELLS Given namesMary Louisa SexFemale Father's nameWELLS Henry Mother's nameHannah (Unknown) Place of birthPOINT NEPEAN

Was it lime merchant, George Baker for whom Edward Russell was apparently working in 1861 according to evidence in the great Schapper Point electoral conspiracy?

Baker was, like William Allison Blair, a lime merchant involved on BOTH sides of Port Phillip Bay, apparently heading a company with a fleet of lime craft. If he'd been near Point Nepean in 1859, surely he would have signed the petition opposing the building of a fence from White Cliff to the ocean beach which was promoted by Peter Purves and James Ford.

HE DID. The following would have been based on information contained in Peter Wilson's ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD or Jenny Nixon's FAMILY, CONNECTIONS, SORRENTO AND PORTSEA, both of which discussed the petition. Jenny believed, despite claims to the contrary, that Clark's Cottage was built by a man named Wells in about 1850.

FROM ONE OF MY JOURNALS.
Many of the limeburners would have been illiterate. Their names would have been printed (by Peter Purves or James Sandle Ford) and followed by "their mark", usually a cross (X). The names on the petition opposing construction of the fence were: James Ford, Peter Purves, Robert Rainey, James Patterson, George Mitchell, Robert Quinan, George White, Robert White, Richard White, Jeremiah White , James Swan,
Arthur Robinson MATCD (presumably the other Melbourne resident), Alfred Evans, Nathan Page, John Dillon, Edward Russell, Patrick Sullivan, Edward M.Williams, Richard White, George White, Isaac Prout, Owen Cain, Mrs John Devine, Ben Stennigan (Stenniken), Timothy Sullivan, Thomas Clancy, George Baker, Charles Dean, Mrs Edward Skelton, Samuel Clark, Samuel Williams, Richard Kenna (Melbourne resident!)

HOWEVER, like Peter Purves' brother, James, George Baker was probably more likely to be found in Melbourne than on the Southern Peninsula.
A Small BOAT for SALE, complete. Apply Mr. GEORGE BAKER. Lime Crafts.(P.1, Argus, 10-2-1860.)
LIME, Heads and Geelong ; Cement and Plaster; superior quality, and lowest rates. George Baker, Lime Wharf.
(P.8, Argus, 28-6-1865.)

(INCIDENTALLY, James Patterson was the head of the family that later settled near Pattersons Rd at Fingal, farmed near Wallaces Rd (known as Patterson's Lane) on Jamieson's Special Survey, and owned Pattersons Motors in Rosebud.)

The building of a substantial dwelling such as Clark's Cottage would imply a family and expected permanent residence in the area. Not one child of a George Baker was registered as having been born on the peninsula between 1841 and 1860.

This could be the lime burner's marriage, Devine being an early lime burner near the Heads, near whose kiln Owen Cain's daughter was found in 1844.*
EventMarriage Event registration number3407 Registration year1855
Personal information
Family nameBAKER Given namesGeorge SexUnknown Spouse's family nameDEVINE Spouse's given namesMaria

No births were registered by this couple up to 1865. I could not find a marriage notice to confirm my suspicion.

* CHILD LOST.--On the afternoon of Tuesday, 20th inst., a little girl, daughter of Mr Owen Cain, residing near the heads, about three and a-half years of age was missing. A search was immediately made, but in vain. It was continued next morning, and four following days, and on Sunday(she)was found about half a mile distant from Mr Cameron's hut, near the sea beach. Two of Mr Devine's lime burners were attracted by a moan proceeding from something in the long grass, and after a search of two hours they discovered the child alive, eating grass. From the time the child was lost until Saturday evening it constantly blew a gale of wind,and rained incessantly. The child's feet and hands were much swollen, but it is recovering fast. The. greatest praise is due to the settlers of Point Nepean for their humane exertions in assisting the distressed parents to recover the child.(P.3, Geelong Advertiser, 9-9-1844.)

With little information appearing on trove that could be tied to the right George Baker, I tried a google search for George Baker Limeburner and discovered AN UNEXPECTED BONUS:
a history of limeburning, limecraft etc. with many photos such as Duffy's kiln at Portsea and details of the Walkerville area to which the Hughes family (and others) moved.

http://www.asha.org.au/…/australasian_…/14_04_Harrington.pdf
EXTRACT. (BOTTOM OF COLUMN 1, PAGE 21.)
The Result went down in the Coles Channel off Swan Island in 1916, at which time the vessel was owned by the Melbourne Builders Lime and Cement Company*.
In terms of the interrelationship of burning, marketing and
shipping it is interesting to note that the Result was originally
owned by George Baker, a Melbourne lime merchant who for
some time also maintained an active involvement with lime
burning on the Mornington Peninsula. I I
II The site of Baker's lime kiln is marked by a plaque, near
the Sorrento foreshore.

*THE LIME DISPUTE.
TO THE EDITOR.
Sir,—I have the honor to forward documents received by me from Mr George Baker, manager of Melbourne Builders Lime and Cement Company, (P.4, Geelong Advertiser, 16-10-1875.)

George was still involved in the company in 1898:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/9799954

G.Baker was granted crown allotments 1,2,3 and 6 of section 7, Township of Rye in 1872. His purchases are shown on my paper map copied at the P.R.O.V. but not on the 1873 survey prepared by Michael Callanan, (one of the brothers after whom Callanans Rd at Red Hill was named:)
https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-232494357

GEORGE BAKER'S DEATH RECORD?
EventDeath Event registration number11281 Registration year1899
Personal information
Family nameBAKER Given namesGeo SexUnknown Father's nameUnknown Mother's nameUnknown (Unknown) Place of birth Place of deathS Y Age66

http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/…/005014912_00…
EXTRACT:
BAKER, George, [206] 12 October (1901) Administration (with the will) of the estate of George Baker, late of Sunnyville, Domain, Yarra,Victoria,lime merchant who died 27 September 1899, granted at Dublin to Henry C.Guaro Solicitor (Limited.) Effects L53 12s 6d.

GEORGE BAKER'S WILL.
The will of George Baker, late of "Sunny
ville," -Domain road, South Yarra, has been
lodged. for probate. Testator left estate valued
at L9.473 realty, and L14.128 personalty, and he
made tho following charitable bequests:—
Melbourne Hospital, Immigrants' Home and
Masonic Asylum, L100 each; Eye and Ear
Hospital, Benevolent Asylum, Old Colonists'
Association, Homoeopathic Hospital, Children's
Hospital, Incurables Hospital, and Little Sis
ter's of the Poor, L50 each.
Testator leaves numerous legacies, ranging
between L100 and LI, 000, to relatives and ac
quaintances, one of them to W. T. Devlne, of
Mulwalah. N.S.W., bullock driver, Ll.OOO. To
his widow he leaves the house on the Domain
road, and L5O0 in money, an annuity of L300,
and certain residuary estates. Testator fur
ther directs that a sum not exceeding L400 be
expended on. his funeral expenses, and on the
erection of a granite monument over his.
grave.(P.19, Weekly Times, 25-11-1899.)

THE LATE MR. GEORGE BAKER.
A WELL-KNOWN MASON.
Mr George Baker, a highly-respected
resident of Melbourne, died on Wednes
day morning, the 27th inst., at his re
sidence, Domain road, South Yarra, aged
66 years. The illness to which deceased
fell a victim had only extended over a
few days, and the immedate cause of his
death is believed to have been heart dis
ease. For many years Mr Baker had held
a responsible position in commercial
circles, and had taken a leading part in
philanthropic work. His loss will be re-
gretted by a large number of friends.
As a Freemason the late Mr Baker was
widely known, and he had attained to
high dignity in the order, occupying at
the time of his death the rank of Deputy
Grand Master of the United Grand Lodge
of Victoria. His appointment to this dig-
nity in the Irish constitution extends
back to 1878, and was confirmed in Sep-
tember, 1881 by. the late Bro. Sir W. J.
Clarke, who was then appointed Grand
Master. In 1889, at the amalgamation of
the four Grand Lodges, and the inaugur-
ation of the United Grand Lodge of Vic
toria, Bro. Baker was appointed the first
.Deputy Grand Master of the new lodge,
which position he occupied at the time
of his decease. The late Sir Willliam
Clarke also conferred upon him the rank
of Past Grand Master.
During his brief illness the deceased
was attended by Dr Woods, of South
Yarra.(P.14, Weekly Times, 7-10-1899.)

George's death notices provide no new information.
BAKER.—The Friends of the late Mr. GEORGE
BAKER are informed that his remains will
be interred in the Melbourne General Ceme-
tery.
The funeral will leave his late residence,
"Sunnyville," Domain-road, South Yarra, THIS
DAY (Friday, the 29th inst.), at 2.15 p.m. punctu-
ally, and will proceed to Christ Church, Toorak-
road, where service will be held ; afterwards the
cortege will be conducted to the cemetery.
(P.1, Argus, 29-9-1899.)

The inscription on the photographed gravestone is completely indecipherable.
George Baker
BIRTH unknown
DEATH unknown
BURIAL
Melbourne General Cemetery
Carlton, Melbourne City, Victoria, Australia
PLOT R-C, Comp-E, No-019
MEMORIAL ID 129651304 · View Source

George had obviously remarried after Maria's death.

EventDeath Event registration number6015 Registration year1881
Personal information
Family nameBAKER Given namesMaria Frances SexUnknown Father's nameDevine Wm Mother's nameEmilie (D) Place of birth Place of deathS Y Age43 Spouse's family nameBAKER Spouse's given namesGeorge

BAKER--On the 26th inst., at her residence, Sunnyville, Domain-road, South Yarra. Maria Frances, the beloved wife of Mr. George Baker. R.I.P. The Telegraph, St Kilda, Prahran and South Yarra Guardian (Vic. : 1866 - 1888) Saturday 30 April 1881 p 3

Another indecipherable photo of the gravestone.Same plot!
Maria Frances Baker
BIRTH unknown
DEATH 26 Apr 1881
Victoria, Australia
BURIAL
Melbourne General Cemetery
Carlton, Melbourne City, Victoria, Australia
PLOT R-C, Comp-E, No-019
MEMORIAL ID 129651300 · View Source

MARIA'S FATHER WAS WILLIAM DEVINE, NOT JOHN AS I HAD EXPECTED. WAS WILLIAM ALSO A LIME BURNER?
Devine, John and W. (lime merchants) : / p. 174, 200
Victorian Historical Journal : 112 Volume 28 (4), 1958; Royal ... - eHive
https://ehive.com/…/victorian-historical-journal-112-volume…

GEORGE BAKER'S SECOND WIFE..
BAKER–MINIHON.—On the 17th ult., at the residence
of Thomas Ingoldby, Esq., Woodbrook, Garvoc, by
the Rev. J. J. Herbert, George Baker, of Domain-
road, South Yarra, to Ellen, youngest daughter of
Timothy John Minihon, Esq., Woodbrook, County
Cork, Ireland. (P.1, Argus, 10-6-1882.)

Ellen Baker
BIRTH 1824
DEATH 24 Nov 1893 (aged 68–69)
Victoria, Australia
BURIAL
Melbourne General Cemetery
Carlton, Melbourne City, Victoria, Australia
PLOT R-C, Comp-E, No-054
MEMORIAL ID 129651418 · View Source

BAKER - On the 24th November, at her late residence,
"Sunnyville," Domain-road, South Yarra, Ellen, the
dearly beloved wife of George Baker. (P.5, The Age, 25-11-1893.)

There was no mention of a third marriage in family notices. The will had probably been written before Ellen's death in 1893.

THE DEVINES
Some information about the Devines has been published in comments.
Victorian BDM shows that both John and William Devine were living at Point Nepean where some of their children's births took place and the maiden names of their wives are given consistently but my main aim at the moment is to find where they afterwards lived so I can find the death records of John, William and their wives. Here's a good start.

JOHN DEVINE'S FAMILY.
DEVINE.—The Friends of the late Miss SARAH DEVINE of Bendigo, daughter of the late John Devine (formerly lime merchant, of this city), are informed that her remains will be interred in the Melbourne General Cemetery. The funeral will leave the Spencer-street railway station on arrival of train from Bendigo THIS MORNING, 5th inst., at 9.50. (P.1, Argus, 5-3-1894.)


SARAH'S DEATH RECORD.
EventDeath Event registration number681 Registration year1894
Personal information
Family nameDEVINE Given namesSarah SexFemale Father's nameJno Mother's nameAnna (Barrel) Place of birth Place of deathBgo Age44

SARAH'S BIRTH WAS REGISTERED TWICE IN MELBOURNE.
The other record gives her mother's names as Honora unknown.
EventBirth Event registration number42666 Registration year1849
Personal information
Family nameDEVINE Given namesSarah SexFemale Father's nameDEVINE John Mother's nameHanna (Barry) Place of birthMELBOURNE

MARY DEVINE.
DEVINE.—On the 16th inst., of consumption, at the residence of her mother, 90 George street, Fitzroy, Mary, youngest daughter, of the late Mr. John Devine, lime merchant, aged 17 years.—R.I.P.
(P.15, Advocate, 22-8-1868.)

MARY'S DEATH RECORD.
EventDeath Event registration number6096 Registration year1868
Personal information
Family nameDEVINE Given namesMary SexUnknown Father's nameJohn Mother's nameHannah (Barry) Place of birthMELB Place of death Age17

Mary's birth records both give her name as Mary Anne, her year and place of birth as 1851 Melbourne and her mother as Hannah unknown.

The Funeral of the late Miss MARY DEVINE, youngest daughter of the late Mr. John Devine,lime merchant, will move from the residence of her mother, 90 George-street, Fitzroy, to the place of interment, Melbourne General Cemetery, THIS DAY (Monday), 17th inst., at half-past 2 o'clock p.m. (P.8, Argus, 17-8-1868.)

MARY DEVINE'S CEMETERY RECORD.
Mary Devine
BIRTH unknown
DEATH 16 Aug 1868
Victoria, Australia
BURIAL
Melbourne General Cemetery
Carlton, Melbourne City, Victoria, Australia
PLOT R-C, Comp-E, No-018
MEMORIAL ID 129651292 · View Source

JOHN DEVINE'S WIDOW, HANNAH, DIED AT SANDHURST (BENDIGO) IN 1890.
EventDeath Event registration number4548 Registration year1890
Personal information
Family nameDEVINE Given namesHannah SexFemale Father's nameBarry Jas Mother's name (Regan) Place of birth Place of deathSandhurst Age66

THE Friends of the late Mrs. HANNAH DEVINE, relict of the late Mr. John Devine, are respectfully invited to follow her remains to the place of interment,Melbourne General Cemetery. The funeral to move from Spencer-street on arrival of Sandhurst train at 10.45 a.m. THIS DAY (Tuesday).(P.8, The Age,21-1-1890.)

MELBOURNE GENERAL CEMETERY.
Hannah Devine
BIRTH unknown
DEATH 18 Jan 1890
Victoria, Australia
BURIAL
Melbourne General Cemetery
Carlton, Melbourne City, Victoria, Australia
PLOT R-C, Comp-E, No-018
MEMORIAL ID 129651294 · View Source

John Devine (There is no death record for a John Devine in 1855.)
BIRTH unknown
DEATH 13 Feb 1855
Victoria, Australia
BURIAL
Melbourne General Cemetery
Carlton, Melbourne City, Victoria, Australia
PLOT R-C, Comp-E, No-018
MEMORIAL ID 129651291 · View Source

John's death in 1855 would account for MRS JOHN DEVINE signing the 1859 petition opposing the fence from White Cliff to the back beach!

Sarah Devine
BIRTH unknown
DEATH 3 Mar 1894
Victoria, Australia
BURIAL
Melbourne General Cemetery
Carlton, Melbourne City, Victoria, Australia
PLOT R-C, Comp-E, No-018
MEMORIAL ID 129651295 · View Source

Mary Devine
BIRTH unknown
DEATH 16 Aug 1868
Victoria, Australia
BURIAL
Melbourne General Cemetery
Carlton, Melbourne City, Victoria, Australia
PLOT R-C, Comp-E, No-018
MEMORIAL ID 129651292 · View Source

John Devine
BIRTH unknown
DEATH 1 Oct 1898
BURIAL
Melbourne General Cemetery
Carlton, Melbourne City, Victoria, Australia
PLOT R-C, Comp-E, No-018
MEMORIAL ID 129651296 · View Source
(Could be John, born in 1847 as his death record (1898 reg. no.17112)gives his age as 51 but his mother was supposedly Mary unknown.Given that he was buried in the same plot, I believe the mother's name was a mistake.)

There were no family notices regarding him but he was supposed to be a former Bendigo resident.
Suddenly.—A man named John Devine, aged 51, said to be an ex-resident of Bendigo, died very suddenly on Saturday at the residence of his brother-in-law, No. 65 Simpson street, East Melbourne. The deceased had been
in ill-health for the last two months, and came to the above address about a fortnight ago. He was not seen by a medical man, and while drinking some wine he suddenly fell back and expired. Dr. T. Boyd was called in, but found that life was extinct. The doctor declined to give a certificate as to the cause of death, and the police were communicated with. A constable removed the body to the city morgue.(P.2, Bendigo Advertiser, 3-10-1898.)
No coroner's inquest has been found.

BIRTHS RECORDS (VICTORIA) OF JOHN AND HANNAH'S CHILDREN.
THOMAS 1846 R.N.39180/1416 POINT NEPEAN MOTHER-HANNAH BARRY (died 1882 aged 36 at Sandhurst, REG NO.10005.)
JOHN 1847 R.N. 2626/41803 POINT NEPEAN MOTHER- HANNA UNKNOWN/BARRY
SARAH 1849 R.N.42666/3911 MELBOURNE MOTHER-HANNA BARRY/ HONORA UNKNOWN
SUSANNA 1849 R.N.42667/3912 MELBOURNE MOTHER-HANNA BARRY/HONORA UNKNOWN
MARY ANNE 1851 REG.No.44017/5716 MELBOURNE MOTHER-HANNAH/HANAH UNKNOWN

Thomas Phillip Devine
BIRTH unknown
DEATH 13 Aug 1882
BURIAL
Melbourne General Cemetery
Carlton, Melbourne City, Victoria, Australia
PLOT R-C, Comp-E, No-018
MEMORIAL ID 129651293 · View Source

EventDeath Event registration number10005 Registration year1882
Personal information
Family nameDEVINE Given namesThos. Philip SexUnknown Father's nameJno. Mother's nameHannah (Barry) Place of birth Place of deathS'HURST Age36

DEVINE. — On the 13th August, at Arnold-street,Sandhurst, Mr. Thomas Devine, eldest son of the late Mr. John Devine, of this city, lime merchant.(P.25, Leader,19-8-1882.)

OTHER CHILDREN FROM DEATH RECORDS.


A THIRD DEVINE BROTHER.
Yesterday, 23rd instant, at his residence, Point Nepean, after a short illness, Mr. Thomas Lewine, much
regretted by his two brothers, William and John Devine, and a numerous circle of friends.
(P.4, Argus, 25-2-1853.)

(It is likely that Thomas was buried in the cemetery near the Quarantine Station.)

As Thomas clearly died at Point Nepean this death record is a perfect example of the fact that the place of death (or birth) in records was where the event was REGISTERED.

EventDeath Event registration number45346 Registration year1853
Personal information
Family nameDEVINE Given namesThomas SexMale Father's nameUnknown Mother's nameUnknown (Unknown) Place of birthUNKNOWN Place of deathMELBOURNE Age46

WILLIAM DEVINE'S FAMILY.
WILLIAM'S DEATH RECORD.
EventDeath Event registration number2337 Registration year1854
Personal information
Family nameDEVINE Given namesWilliam SexUnknown Father's nameWilliam Mother's nameWinifred (Mcgarra) Place of birthIRELAND Place of death Age52 Spouse's family nameSHERIDAN Spouse's given namesEmma

On the 2nd inst., at his residence, Cardigan-street,North Melbourne, William Devine, aged 52 years.
(P.4, Argus, 3-4-1854.)

William Devine
BIRTH unknown
DEATH 2 Apr 1854
BURIAL
Melbourne General Cemetery
Carlton, Melbourne City, Victoria, Australia
PLOT R-C, Comp-E, No-019
MEMORIAL ID 129651297 · View Source

See the cemetery record of John Joseph Devine below.

See the cemetery records for Amelia Agnes Devine and her husband, Captain Thomas Devine below.


BIRTH RECORDS (VICTORIA)OF WILLIAM AND EMMA DEVINE'S CHILDREN.
AMELIA/ EMILIA, 1845 REG.No.835/38687,POINT NEPEAN, MOTHER-AMELIA/EMILIA SHERIDAN.(Amelia died at Malvern, aged 66 in 1908, reg. no.14265. She was the Amelia Devine who married Captain Thomas Devine in 1860 and became a widow in 1869.
EventDeath Event registration number14265 Registration year1908
Personal information
Family nameDEVINE Given namesAmelia Agnes SexUnknown Father's nameDevine Wm Mother's nameAmelia (Sheridan) Place of birth Place of deathMvern Age66
One of their children, Walter Timothy, died at Malvern aged 53 in 1917, reg. no.1990.His death notice mentions his surviving siblings.
DEVINE.- On the 20th February, at "Walworth," Valetta street, Malvern, Walter, beloved husband of Susan Devine, of Barkly street, Brunswick, loving father of Kathleen and Oswald, brother of Helena, Wilham, and Colonel J. H. Devine; second son of the late Captain Thomas and Amelia Devine. (Private interment.)
(P.1, Argus, 22-2-1917.)


Another son,Lieutenant-Colonel John Henry Devine, died at Prahran aged 59 in 1927 aged 59, reg. no.3145.
See his obituary- page 16, Argus, 8-2-1927.
Cemetery record for Amelia Agnes.
Amelia Agnes Devine
BIRTH unknown
DEATH 26 Oct 1908
Victoria, Australia
BURIAL
Melbourne General Cemetery
Carlton, Melbourne City, Victoria, Australia
PLOT R-C, Comp-E, No-019
MEMORIAL ID 129651303 · View Source

Captain Thomas Devine was NOT a child of William and Emilia but the HUSBAND of Amelia Agnes.
Capt Thomas Devine
BIRTH unknown
DEATH 22 Dec 1869
Victoria, Australia
BURIAL
Melbourne General Cemetery
Carlton, Melbourne City, Victoria, Australia
PLOT R-C, Comp-E, No-019
MEMORIAL ID 129651299 · View Source


As the death of Emilia Devine was not registered (or is not yet entered online)I will have to assume that she was Emilia (nee Sheridan), the widow of William who died in 1854. Here is the cemetery record.

Emilia Devine
BIRTH unknown
DEATH 13 Feb 1855
Victoria, Australia
BURIAL
Melbourne General Cemetery
Carlton, Melbourne City, Victoria, Australia
PLOT R-C, Comp-E, No-019
MEMORIAL ID 130621539 · View Source


WILLIAM, 1845 R.N.834/38686,POINT NEPEAN, MOTHER- AMELIA/EMILIA SHERIDAN.(No death record with right parents found.)

The reason that no death record had been found is that William died in Brisbane.
DEVINE. — On the 13th July, suddenly, at Brisbane,William Thomas Devine, late of the Victorian Railways.
(P.1, The Age, 16-7-1903.)

I had gone through all the Devine burials at the Melbourne General Cemetery and this one was the very last one. It would have been a very expensive funeral!
William Thomas Devine
BIRTH unknown
DEATH 13 Jul 1903
Victoria, Australia
BURIAL
Melbourne General Cemetery
Carlton, Melbourne City, Victoria, Australia
PLOT R-C, Comp-E, No-019
MEMORIAL ID 129651302 · View Source

SARAH 1847
EventBirth Event registration number41753 Registration year1847
Personal information
Family nameDEVINE Given namesSarah SexFemale Father's nameDEVINE William Mother's nameEmilia (Sheridan) Place of birthPOINT TESSIN

EventBirth Event registration number2576 Registration year1847
Personal information
Family nameDEVINE Given namesSarah SexFemale Father's nameDEVINE William Mother's nameEmilia (Unknown) Place of birthPOINT NEPEAN

OTHER CHILDREN FROM DEATH RECORDS.
EventDeath Event registration number13951 Registration year1913
Personal information
Family nameDEVINE Given namesJno Jos SexUnknown Father's nameDevine Wm Mother's nameEmma Amelia (Sheridon) Place of birth Place of deathMvern Age73

DEVINE.—On the 9th December, 1913, at the residence of his niece, "Walworth," Valetta street, Malvern, John Joseph Devine, eldest son of the late William Devine, lime merchant, Melbourne, aged 73 years (Interred privately, Melbourne General Cemetery.)

John Devine
BIRTH 1839
DEATH 10 Dec 1913 (aged 73–74)
Victoria, Australia
BURIAL
Melbourne General Cemetery
Carlton, Melbourne City, Victoria, Australia
PLOT MGC-RC-Comp-E-No-19
MEMORIAL ID 178769144 · View Source

EventDeath Event registration number1062 Registration year1894
Personal information
Family nameDEVINE Given namesWalt Sheridan SexMale Father's nameWm Mother's nameEmily (Sheridan) Place of birth Place of deathCarl N Age42

DEVINE. — On the 9th February, at Lee Cottage, 540 Station street, North Carlton, Walter Sheridan Devine, the beloved husband of Susie Evelyn Devine, and younger son of the late William Devine lime merchant, in his 42nd year. (P.11, Weekly Times, 17-2-1894.)

Walter S Devine
BIRTH unknown
DEATH 9 Feb 1894
Victoria, Australia
BURIAL
Melbourne General Cemetery
Carlton, Melbourne City, Victoria, Australia
PLOT R-C, Comp-E, No-019
MEMORIAL ID 129651301 · View Source

Surnames: BAKER BARRY DEVINE McGARRA MINIHON REGAN SHERIDAN WELLS
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by itellya on 2018-07-29 00:18:07

THE DEVINES.
There are maps on pages 56 and 57 of C.N.Hollinshed's LIME LAND LEISURE showing "10.Devine Huts" at the south east corner of Pt Nepean Rd and Hemston Avenue (bottom right corner of Melway 156J3) and "15. Devine Bros." at White Cliff (just on the east side of White Cliff, Melway 168 D3.) I had always assumed that the lime kiln standing at that spot was a wholly created replica but it seems possible that the old Devine kiln may have just been tidied up by the removal of many decades of rubbish and maybe the lining of the kiln with bricks. A member of the Rye Rotary and Lions Clubs might be able to shed light on what work was required to create in 1989 what we see today.
https://poi-australia.com.au/points-of-interest/australia/victoria/rye/lime-kiln-rye-foreshore-opposite-2543-point-nepean-rd-rye-mornington-peninsula-vic/
EXTRACT. Set just behind the sand dunes at the base of Whitecliffs Lookout, a replica Lime Kiln has been built by the Rotary & Lions Clubs of Rye in 1989. It has been sited where once the historic ‘Devine Kiln’ stood, as well as an old loading point where bullock teams would drag wagons loaded with bagged lime into the shallow waters, transfer it to barges, then to small sailing ships, to be transported to a special Limecraft Dock which was constructed c 1849, near King Street in Melbourne.

John and William Devine held separate leases in 1852, probably near the huts. These are plotted on another map in LAND LIME LEISURE.

https://nepeanhistoricalsociety.asn.au/history/quarantine-station/quarantine-background/
"In October 1852 Lieutenant-Governor La Trobe wrote to the General Surveyor Robert Hoddle enquiring as to the date of the expiration of the inhabitant’s leases. He was duly informed that the leases were renewed annually and were set to expire at the end of the year.

In Reply came the following nominal roll from Hoddle on 27th October, 1852:

Name Rent
Daniel Sullivan £12
Robert White £12
William Devine £12
John Devine £12
James Ford £12
H. G. Cameron £12

La Trobe’s response was to direct the Harbour Master to:

Take such steps as may be found desirable in withdrawing from licenced occupation such portion of land as may be required for the purpose of the immediate formation of a quarantine station at the Heads.13"

by itellya on 2018-07-29 02:08:01

Silly me! It's some years since I inspected the replica lime kiln but I'd only needed to look at the photo to see that the kiln was lined, not with bricks, but with limestone rubble (which was in such plentiful supply that it was used for some time to make the often-mentioned WHITE ROADS which were very smooth but caused glare, were slippery at times and could deteriorate quickly once the process started.)

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