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GEORGE SMITH'S WOOLOOWOOLOOBOOLOOK WAS NEAR ROSEBUD (VIC., AUST.) BUT WHERE EXACTLY?

Journal by itellya

POSTSCRIPT 2-10-2015.
HOPEFULLY READERS WILL STILL ENJOY READING THE FOLLOWING ATTEMPTS TO SOLVE A RIDDLE WITH SO MANY CONFLICTING CLUES.IF MY MATE,JUSTIN, HAD NOT ASKED ME TO WRITE A HISTORY OF TOOTGAROOK FOR HIM A FEW DAYS AGO,THE ANSWER TO THE RIDDLE MAY NEVER HAVE BEEN FOUND. AS MARIE HANSEN FELS POINTS OUT IN "I SUCCEEDED ONCE", GEORGE SMITH'S WOOLOOWOOLOOBOOLOOK (NO MATTER WHAT SPELLING WAS USED) WAS THE NAME OF HIS HOMESTEAD AT CAPEL SOUND ON THE TOOTGAROOK RUN. CONFUSINGLY,GEORGE GORDON McCRAE REFERRED TO A LITTLE STATION OF THAT NAME NEAR THE SISTERS WHICH IS SHOWN IN SMYTHE'S MAP OF 1841, WHILE TOOTGAROOK IS NOT SHOWN AS A CROWN LEASE BUT A PLACE NAME, PROBABLY NEAR THE SWAMP,GIVEN ITS MUCH ACCEPTED MEANING OF "PLACE OF CROAKING FROGS". I HAVE NOT INCLUDED THE INFORMATION IN MY LAST SENTENCE WHICH PRECEDES THE FOLLOWING QUOTE FROM "I SUCCEEDED ONCE."

Extract from my post A BRIEF HISTORY OF TOOTGAROOK FOR JUSTIN on the HISTORY OF DROMANA TO PORTSEA Facebook page.
MORE ABOUT GEORGE SMITH.
I stated before that George Smith may have been on Tootgarook.On page 4 of The Argus of 21-5-1850,a government notice lists occupants and other details of runs for which the occupants were to submit applications for 12 month leases from 1-1-1851. In the County of Mornington,No. 17 of 19 was George Smith (occupant), 20 square miles (extent), Tootgarook (name of run), Port Phillip Bay (location).

"Contrary to what is widely asserted, he did not hold a licence for Wul-Wul-a-Bulluk on the Mornington Peninsula: a thorough search of the original Pastoral Run Papers produced no papers for Wul-Wul-a-Bulluk in the box which holds all the original ‘W’ Pastoral Run Papers.50 Wul-Wul-a-Bulluk is not a pastoral run; it is the name of the house at Capel Sound where he lived in the 1840s.51"
(I SUCCEEDED ONCE.)



PRIVATE MESSAGE.
Hi XXX,
Do you have a copy of Georgiana's Journal (Melbourne 1841-1865) edited by Hugh McCrae.
The copy that I have is stamped McCrae Homestead. I paid the expensive price of 20c at Parkdale Op Shop. Such an interesting read.

REPLY.
No,I don't have a copy and congratulate you on your bargain purchase at the op shop. I first read the book back in 1988 when I started adding to the 1.5 foolcap pages that then constituted the history of Tullamarine. Georgiana's description of Richard Hanmer Bunbury (an early grantee in the parish of Tullamarine) was superb, her detail (re pioneers) probably only surpassed by Harry Peck in MEMOIRS OF A STOCKMAN.

Your message prompted me to see if the book was available online. It doesn't seem to be in e-book form but Marie Fel's book is, and the following result* led me to information about George Smith's Woolooowoolooboolook (as it is written in Georgiana's Journal.)
*I succeeded once - Page 305 - Google Books Result
https://books.google.com.au/books?isbn=1921862130
Marie Hansen Fels - 2011 - ‎History
But the editor of Georgiana's journal, her grandson Hugh, has been damningly criticised in a recent PhD thesis2 for his prejudiced and manipulative changes to ...



Owen Cain arrived in about 1943 and soon after his arrival,his four year old daughter (Sarah Ann?)who was born in America en route from Ireland,wandered away from "Tyrone" (near Tyrone beach west of Rye's White Cliff.) The story of her ordeal was recorded by young George McCrae; details are included in my LOST journal. At this time, Georgiana was still in Melbourne socialising with Governor Latrobe. One thing that puzzled me was young George's description of the Wooloowooloooboolook homestead being six miles along the Cape Schanck road from his own home.This would place Smith's homestead near Pattersons Rd, Fingal.

In LIME LAND LEISURE, C.N.Hollinshed mentioned that this run was added to the Tootgarook Run in 1850 by Hobson, who then requested that the expanded run be transferred to James Purves. No indication of the location of Smith's run was provided.

Marie Fels expended enormous effort to establish the burial site of Johnny,George McCrae's aboriginal hunting mate,who died after returning from his trip to America with George Smith. He was carried to the burial site, just south of the (McCrae) lighthouse, by George himself, Johnny's distraught father and relatives lining the grave and tying the body in a seated posture.

This land was part of George Smith's lease, described thus by George Smith.

"Having promised Mr McCrae the small piece of land opposite his residence at Arthurs Seat of which I beg leave to offer a description. I request that it be added to the lease about to be issued to him."

Smith described the land as, "the small piece of land between the Cape Schanck rd and the sea commencing near the rocks at the point known as St Anthony's Nose and ending at the creek at the junction of the Point Nepean and Cape Schanck roads nearly opposite the end of Mr McCrae's paddock fence."
(P.314, I SUCCEEDED ONCE.)

Marie Fels believed that the creek was Coburns Creek but it would have been ADAMS CREEK which now lies underneath The Avenue. Descendants of Henry Everest Adams believe that the Rosebud pioneer beached his ship near today's Wattle Place at about the time that the McCraes obtained the lease of Arthurs Seat and was granted 750 acres of land. An Adams family historian has disputed the year of the Captain's arrival, given as 1845 in the Dromana Pioneer Pathway, believing that crown allotment 20 Wannaeue was part of the Arthurs Seat run and Captain Adams would have arrived after 1851.

Crown allotment 20 is between The Avenue and Parkmore Rd, extending south to Bayview Rd. The boundary fence described by George Smith probably ended at or near Adams Creek and the Cape Schanck road junction (with the Point Nepean road) was probably today's Wattle Place. I believe that Captain Adams was granted a (hush hush)lease of the WANNAEUE VILLAGE Reserve (crown allotment 20)for services rendered to the government, perhaps bringing ticket of leave men from Van Dieman's Land circa 1841 to overcome a labour shortage, or shipping supplies from Singapore. The "so-called 750 acre grant" could have also included a lease of land later granted to Back Road Bob Cairns and others on the south east side of what Georgina McCrae called the MOUNTAIN ROAD (later Cape Schanck Rd/ the back road/Hobson's Flat Rd/ Bayview Rd.) The 750 acres could also be a distorted memory of 75 acres of Wannaeue Village purchased as a grant in the 1870's as a pre-emptive right.

I believe George Smith's Wooloowoolooboolook was on the foreshore from Anthony's Nose to Adams' Creek and ran east to at least Jetty Rd, perhaps Boneo Rd (where crown allotments are labelled NO SECTION.) I also believe that Smith's run included crown allotments 5 and 6,section A,Wannaeue, between Boneo Rd and (today's)Old Cape Schanck and now occupied by most of the Rosebud Country Club golf course. Granted to James Purves these allotments may have been the site of the Wooloowoolooboolook homestead where the(so-called*) Mrs Smith nursed young Sarah Ann Cain back to health.
*Marie Fels gives details of the relationship!

The parish map indicates the north east corner of these allotments is roughly 23 983 links from the Arthurs Seat homestead; that's about 240 chains or THREE miles. The south east corner, adjoining the Cairns family's Little Scotland was 5330 links farther south west, about five eighths of a mile. Young George probably didn't have a parish map,odometer or trundle wheel to check his estimate of the distance between his home and Smith's so I guess SIX MILES was a reasonable guess.

Another possible location involved other James Purves grants, crown allotments 1,2 and 3 of the parish of Fingal, bounded by The Dunes and Limestone,Truemans and Sandy Rds (Melway 252B4) but this was too far from Cape Schanck Rd to be correct and was probably part of the Boniyong (Boneo) run.

Georgiana's Journal and Marie Fels' I SUCCEEDED ONCE are both well-worth a read.

Surnames: ADAMS CAIN CAIRNS HOBSON McCRAE PURVES SMITH
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Itellya is researching local history on the Mornington Peninsula and is willing to help family historians with information about the area between Somerville and Blairgowrie. He has extensive information about Henry Gomm of Somerville, Joseph Porta (Victoria's first bellows manufacturer) and Captain Adams of Rosebud.

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by itellya on 2015-02-14 10:08:45

PAGE 4, ARGUS, 22-5-1850,INTERMEDIATE LANDS, No.17.

It now seems almost certain that George Smith's Wooloowoolooboolook was actually the Tootgarook Run, consisting of 20 square miles. George was named as the current Occupant of the Tootgarook Run in 1850. It is likely that Edward Hobson came back from Traralgon in 1850 with the run being transferred to him and then almost immediately to James Purves who was an engineer (not an architect!)

I had thought that James and Peter Purves might have managed Tootgarook while Edward Hobson was managing his brother's "Traralgon Run" but it now appears that he had transferred Tootgarook to Smith.

This casts doubt on Hec Hansen's claim that Peter Purves coined the name of Tootgarook unless the Purves brothers were managing the run for Smith.

by itellya on 2015-02-14 10:32:08

Sorry about the need to use a new comment box but by the time I had consulted I SUCCEEDED ONCE, the cursor had become an arrow,which did not allow me to add text.

In (1843?) George McCrae called Smith's homestead Wooloowoolooboolook when Sarah Ann Cain was taken there half-dead. (Georgiana's Journal.)
In mid 1846, George Smith was at Capel Sound. His place had the same name but with u used instead of oo to spell it.
In December 1850, George Smith took Johnny to America(1),which explains why he transferred his run, mysteriously renamed, to Edward Hobson(2).
(1. I SUCCEEDED ONCE. 2. LIME LAND LEISURE.)
George Smith was the first lessee from the crown of the foreshore land east to Anthony's Nose and agreed to a request from Andrew McCrae to transfer this to the Arthurs Seat Run.(I SUCCEEDED ONCE.)

by itellya on 2015-10-01 19:38:51

The following has also been inserted at the start of the journal. If anybody would like to peruse the HISTORY OF DROMANA TO PORTSEA Facebook Group page referred to, send me your email address in a family tree circles private message and I will email the link.

POSTSCRIPT 2-10-2015.
HOPEFULLY READERS WILL STILL ENJOY READING THE FOLLOWING ATTEMPTS TO SOLVE A RIDDLE WITH SO MANY CONFLICTING CLUES.IF MY MATE,JUSTIN, HAD NOT ASKED ME TO WRITE A HISTORY OF TOOTGAROOK FOR HIM A FEW DAYS AGO,THE ANSWER TO THE RIDDLE MAY NEVER HAVE BEEN FOUND. AS MARIE HANSEN FELS POINTS OUT IN "I SUCCEEDED ONCE", GEORGE SMITH'S WOOLOOWOOLOOBOOLOOK (NO MATTER WHAT SPELLING WAS USED) WAS THE NAME OF HIS HOMESTEAD AT CAPEL SOUND ON THE TOOTGAROOK RUN. CONFUSINGLY,GEORGE GORDON McCRAE REFERRED TO A LITTLE STATION OF THAT NAME NEAR THE SISTERS WHICH IS SHOWN IN SMYTHE'S MAP OF 1841, WHILE TOOTGAROOK IS NOT SHOWN AS A CROWN LEASE BUT A PLACE NAME, PROBABLY NEAR THE SWAMP,GIVEN ITS MUCH ACCEPTED MEANING OF "PLACE OF CROAKING FROGS". I HAVE NOT INCLUDED THE INFORMATION IN MY LAST SENTENCE WHICH PRECEDES THE FOLLOWING QUOTE FROM "I SUCCEEDED ONCE."

Extract from my post A BRIEF HISTORY OF TOOTGAROOK FOR JUSTIN on the HISTORY OF DROMANA TO PORTSEA Facebook page.
MORE ABOUT GEORGE SMITH.
I stated before that George Smith may have been on Tootgarook.On page 4 of The Argus of 21-5-1850,a government notice lists occupants and other details of runs for which the occupants were to submit applications for 12 month leases from 1-1-1851. In the County of Mornington,No. 17 of 19 was George Smith (occupant), 20 square miles (extent), Tootgarook (name of run), Port Phillip Bay (location).

"Contrary to what is widely asserted, he did not hold a licence for Wul-Wul-a-Bulluk on the Mornington Peninsula: a thorough search of the original Pastoral Run Papers produced no papers for Wul-Wul-a-Bulluk in the box which holds all the original W Pastoral Run Papers.50 Wul-Wul-a-Bulluk is not a pastoral run; it is the name of the house at Capel Sound where he lived in the 1840s.51"
(I SUCCEEDED ONCE.)

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