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Journal by itellya

This work started as a post on the PIONEERS OF THE MORNINGTON PENINSULA Facebook page but was likely to run out of room before long. Links will work here if copied into your search bar.

To maintain my improved health, I have decided to cease further research except when it is specially requested.

The glossary, mainly STORYTELLING, mentions only what I have been able to add, with extensive documentation here and on family tree circles, to Peninsula history published by others. This will be my last extensive post but will continue until my memory fails, with documentation only provided in exceptional circumstances such as correction of published history and the name of the commissioner of trade and custom mentioned by Robert Rowley who approved expenditure for the construction of the Canterbury Jetty (for his own benefit.)

ANDERSON, Robert Murray. Murray River paddle-steamer captain, born near the mouth of the Murray River, this being the reason for his second given name. He was a close friend and supporter of Clement John De Garis, developer of The Heart of Rosebud Estate at Rosebud, between Adams Avenue and Jetty Rd. Naming Murray Anderson Rd after him was the least that De Garis could do to thank the Mildura pioneer for lending him heaps of money and writing a glowing infomercial extolling the potential of the developer's failed estate in Western Australia. (See DE GARIS.)

BEACHDALE. Where the heck was that?
In 1912, Carrum farmer, John McComb leased the Hindhope Estate, the northern half of c/a 14 Wannaeue between First Avenue and Boneo Rd, from the beach road south to 50 First Avenue and Hope St blocks. In 1913 his name was crossed out and replaced by that of Arthur A.Thomas, a developer after whom Thomas St was named, but this time John was described as a Seaford farmer. Thomas had probably been asked to name the first street on the estate after John by the previous owners, Greg and Nora Rigg but the surveyor named the south border of block A , the one which fronts today's Rosebud Plaza, as McCombe St.

The area south of Seaford Rd was variously called Frankston or Carrum up to 1913 when a progress association was formed and decided to name the area BEACHDALE (much like pioneers west of Rosebud who formed a foreshore committee in 1926 decided to call that area Eastbourne.) However a station was built at Beachdale soon after and a poll of residents favoured Seaford for its name so the progress association amended its name a few months after its original decision, at the time that the occupancy of Hindhope at Rosebud was amended in the Flinders and Kangerong ratebook (with John McComb now described as a SEAFORD farmer and then being replaced by Thomas as the person to be rated.)
The suburb's name could not be more historical significant because Long Island was used by early travellers to avoid the Carrum swamp until reaching the site of Frankston's Mile Bridge where a ford near the sea was crossed, often up to their necks as in the case of William Thomas.

During my first visit to the Nepean Historical Society museum about a decade ago, I picked up a pamphlet about Blairgowrie which stated that it was named after the house of that name (formerly Villa Maria) and that the area's first name was Canterbury, but that was actually its second name.

Jack Ritchie's excellent history of Blairgowrie can ironically be most readily found by googling BLAIRGOWIRE. This will appear:
Showing results for blairgowrie
Search instead for blairgowire-
if you click on the latter, Jack's history will be the first result.

The original name for the area, Manners-Sutton, was coined by Sidney Smith Crispo to honour the Governor and his wife. Crispo established a private village of that name in the late 1860's and when Sir John Manners Sutton became Viscount Canterbury, Crispo renamed his village as Canterbury. There was no coastal road near the village, probably because of a steep rise near White Cliff; this ended at Rye and those travelling west from Rye had to use Melbourne Road. To provide access for potential buyers, Crispo built a boat jetty near the beach access track 400 metres west of Canterbury Rd shown in the top left corner of Melway 167H2.(probably similar to Walter and Charlie Burnham's much later jetty near Boneo Rd, an Arthur Boyd painting of which can be seen in ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD.)

The Village of Sorrento was only six months old when Crispo placed this advertisement.
From Frankston to
Schnapper Point,
Dromana, Tootgarook, Point Nepean,
Manners Sutton,
Schanck, Queenscliff,
Hastings, Flinders, and Sandy Point, for
Phillip Island.
County of Mornington, see to it. Thousands
of the people of Melbourne would doubtless
avail themselves of a railway to visit the sea coast
towns and places; but before again bringing the
subject under the notice of the Hobson's Bay and
Brighton Railway directors, it would be well to get a
list of the names of persons in the county of Morning-
ton who are likely to travel by the new line and if
the names and addresses are sent to
S. S. Crispo, Esq., Twynstead Cottage, Forster
street, Botanical-gardens, St. Kilda, he will attend to
this business. (P.4, Argus, 14-6-1870.)

BRYAN'S CUTTING. Just as Venice might have been been confused with Venus at Mornington, Sheila Skidmore called Bryan's Cutting O'BRIEN CUTTING when discussing the three cuttings connecting Boundary Rd Dromana with Red Hill and parts west over Arthurs Seat. Colin McLear thought that John Bryan's real name was Bryan Watson. After Mary Ann Adams moved from The Willow on the Survey at the start of the 1860's, John Bryan replaced her but when Susan Peatey, midwife,, delivered two of his children on 3-2- 1867 and 27-10-1869, the parents were named as Margaret and Peter Watson.

Peter had become insolvent before the second of these two births.
Peter Watson, commonly known as John Bryan, of Dromana, laborer. Causes of insolvency: losses on contracts and want of employment. Liabilities, £33 19s 9d ; assets, £I6_10s; deficiency, £47 9s 9. (P.3, The Herald, 6-8-1869.)

It is possible that he had created the cutting before he moved onto The Willow by dragging logs down the hill through the Town Common between Robert Caldwell's Dromana Hill and William Grace's Gracefield. The start of the cutting was today's Hillview Quarry Rd, continued along a fire access track shown in Melway 159 J10, H11. Melbourne Brindle was well aware of John Bryan's hut on the mountain and the cutting which he labelled TO BRYAN'S HUT on his pre-1919 map of Dromana. Peter's debt was possibly the rent on The Willow.

By October 1895, Peter Watson had done well enough to purchase c/a's 25 A and 24C, section B Wannaeue, about 172 acres near the summit between Purves and Main Creek Rds. He'd possibly bought these blocks to harvest their timber.

CAMPBELL, Archibald Colin, Mornington.
Mornington Peninsula Shire's digitisation officer until recently, Murray Adams, undertook a massive project to provide information after whom reserves in the shire were named. A.C.Campbell was the first reserve discussed.
Murray wrote:
A.C. Campbell Reserve, Seaton Rd, Mornington
Archibald Colin Campbell was a Mornington Shire Councillor in the South Riding from 1948-51, and again from 1966-71. He represented Mt Martha Riding from 1955-1966.
He lost his seat to Charles Wilson in 1951. He was reportedly not at all happy because he was on holiday in Central Australia with several mates and C.B. Wilson beat him in his absence. He made a comeback in Mt Martha in 1955, but he transferred to South Riding again after a redistribution, and he beat C.B. Wilson in 1966.He was Mornington Shire President in 1957, and again in 1965.
When the Shire sold off the former market and sale yards near the Tanti Hotel in 1966, Colin Campbell, who had established a B.P. oil depot there some time earlier, bought Lot 1. Lot 6 was sold to the Hotel and they used it for car parking.
He opened the Beleura Hill Pre-school Centre, Mornington as Shire President in 1966.

I posted the link to Murray's NAMING OF THE RESERVES article on the PIONEERS OF THE MORNINGTON PENINSULA Facebook page and Richard Baker posted a comment that he believed that A.C. Campbell was a former policeman. He was right.

Paste the links into your search bar to access the articles, both of which were published in 1946.
Mornington was represented in the State Swimming Championship by Douglas Campbell, son of Senior-constable A. C. Campbell, of Mornington.

Senior Constable A. C. Campbell has acquired the well-known business of Mornington Cafe, owned by Mrs. Ryan, who has retired from business. Senior Constable Campbell officially retires on 22nd April, after over 22 years of service in the Police Force. He has been stationed in many parts of the State-firstly at the Police Depot. From there his duties have confined him to Sea
Lake, Swan Hill, Benambra, Lakes Entrance, Cann River, Foster, and in the last two years at Mornington.

He is a former president of the Police Association, and is at present president of the Mornington Athletic Association and Football Club. He is also a member of the Australian Jersey Herd Society and is owner of Yanakie Jersey Stud, Foster.

CANTERBURY. See Blairgowrie.
1. Rosalind Peatey used the places of birth of George and Susan Peatey's children to trace their whereabouts after arrival. Edward Norman was born in Tarraville, Gippsland in 1855 and John Henry was born in Melbourne in April 1857. In my notes, I speculated this might have been in Melbourne's Canvas Town but it seemed to have been closed down by then.

2. "In 1880 William Froggart Walker, who was the Commissioner for Customs in Melbourne, went into partnership with Wischer and it was after Walker that Walkerville was named."
The above information will be relevant to Robert Rowley's letter of about the same time regarding the Rye Pier being neglected while money had been allocated by the minister of customs and trade to a limeburners' pier at Canterbury for his own benefit. The letter will appear in the RYE PIER entry, as it, as well as the notification of John Campbell's successful tender for the construction of the Rye Pier in December 1866 prove that it was not built in 1860 as claimed.

It is stated in LIME LAND LEISURE that the proprietors of this Canvas Town were Walker and Youll. It was situated on the corner of Tasman Avenue and Canterbury Jetty Rd. The Kiln would have been on the west corner where a timber wall braces the base of a hill which would allowed top loading and bottom extraction as illustrated by the replica lime kiln at White Hill near Rye. Canvas Town itself is shown on the east corner; this would be where the quarriers, knappers, burners and carriers lived. Knappers broke the limestone into small pieces so it would be more efficiently burned.
The lime was carried north along what became Canterbury Jetty Rd to the sandbanks where it was loaded onto propped up lime craft which arrived and departed at high tide. A pier would make the loading much easier. No doubt Owen Cain of Tyrone would have appreciated the limeburners' pier being built at the north west corner of Tyrone!

CRIPPS, William.
Patti Newton's ancestor.
From Warner Bros.

Feb 27, 2017, 9:50 AM
to me
Hi Ray,
I’m Helen who has been emailing you from Family Tree circles. As you can see by my email, I’m a researcher from the program ‘Who Do You Think You Are’. I’m just doing some initial research for a possible story link and William Cripps comes up.
I’d love to see the rates record, and any other document you may have found. I’m based in Sydney so popping into the SLV isn’t quite so easy.
I would also appreciate it if you keep it quiet that we’re looking into the area!
Thanks again for your help,
(Ancestry charges so Dromana Historical Society received $100 from Warner Bros. when I suggested a donation might be fitting.)

CRISPO Sidney Smith. See also Blairgowrie.
I had written quite some detail about Sidney's ideas and the Victorian Coastal Survey but lost this because I clicked outside the edit box. I just now did an unsuccessful google search for the Victorian Coastal Survey because I wasn't sure about the time it was established and ended but my luck changed when I added Sidney Smith Crispo. The Erbs family which could be described as newbies has already made a significant contribution to the Rye Historical Society.

As well as publishing all of Sidney's letters to newspaper and extensive information about the Victorian coastal survey (which a google search failed to reveal as I mentioned above), this lengthy work has maps showing Crispo's grants and his boat jetty mentioned in the BLAIRGOWRIE entry.

I still tended to make wild assumptions when I wrote my journal in 2011, about a year after starting my Peninsula research. Sidney Smith Crispo did not arrive on the same survey ship as Edward Williams.

DE GARIS C.J. Developer of the Heart of Rosebud Estate.

There were three cutting hearing south, uphill from Boundary Rd, Dromana to the heights of Arthurs Seat, Bryan's cutting starting near Hillview Quarry Rd, Simon's cutting probably starting at Hillview Community Reserve opposite the present Boundary Rd shops and Eaton's cutting at Melway 160 E.10. The first two were created by the person after whom they were named: Bryan, alias Peter Watson was a woodgetter and travelled through the Dromana town common to and from the Arthurs Seat summit while Henry Bernard Simon bought from the Crown two parcels of land in Melway 160 A 9,10 and 171J10 to 190 A1 and created a track travelling from one to the other. Eaton's cutting was so named because it ended at Watson Eaton's 150 acre selection, c/a 7B of section 3, Kangerong, fronting Arthurs Seat Rd and roughly indicated by Melway 190 C-E 1.

The Kangerong parish map shows two tracks, the one not far west of Eatons Cutting Rd as shown on Melway having many zig-zags and ending at the north boundary of Eaton's 150 acre selection. This would not have been suitable as a route between the Red Hill area and Dromana for two reasons. If continued to Arthurs Seat Rd it would have divided the 150 acres into parcels of roughly 100 and 50 acres making the selection far less useful and secondly, the twists and turns would have hampered logging drays and perhaps been exceedingly dangerous for carriages. The shire had obviously decided to construct the road as shown on Melway so it would avoid as many bends as possible and end at the eastern boundary of Watson's selection.
That would mean buying 2916 x 20 links of the selection or 29.16 x 1 chains (almost 3 acres plus curves in Melway 190 E1 and E2 with the inside of each curve, which I estimate as a further 10 acres) being hacked off the selection and requiring compensation. The players in this drama were Rebecca Griffiths, Watson Eaton's executrix, and Cr John Calvin Griffith, her son.

From Mrs. R. Griffith, re arrears due for purchase of land required for road deviation purposes at Eaton's cutting. This letter was read at last meeting, and the secretary who was requested to look over the books, read an extract from the minutes of the council under date, 2th October 1890, from which it appeared that it was agreed to accept the offer of the late Mr. Eaton, which was that if not more than 5 acres be taken £10 would be accepted as full payment--on reference to a minute under date, October 1887, it was found that £16 13s 7d had been paid to Mrs.Griffith, and that 6 acres 2 roods 16 perches had been taken. Cr. Griffith said Mrs. Griffith had been paid for 5 acres at the rate of £3 per acre, leaving a balance unplaced for 1 acre 2 roods 16 perches. The President-5 acres had been offered for £10 ; therefore (for) the 1 acre 2 roods 16 perches, £5 13s 7d had been paid which was more than £9 per acre. Cr. Griffith, the late Mr.Eaton may have agreed to accept £10 for the 5 acres, but Mrs Griffith had been no party of this offer. The delay was very vexatious. It was decided to again postpone the matter, the secretary in the meantime to ascertain if there were any documents in existence in which the offer was made. (P.2, Mornington Standard, 7-12-1893.)

Abraham Griffith from Philadelphia and Watson Eaton were reputed to have come from the same part of America together but Griffith researchers have found no evidence of this or of Abraham being the captain of a whaler. Check Abraham's biography in Victoria and Its Metropolis. Colin McLear claimed on page 35 of A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA that Alexander Sutherland had reported (in Victoria and Its Metropolis) that Abraham had arrived in 1854.It's actually Jonah Griffith's biography on P.394 which I did not transcribe. DO IT!!!
Watson Eaton's brother Benjamin Franklin Eaton was supposed to have farmed on Jamieson's Special Survey with Watson and Abraham and his wife Rebecca for some time but IT IS POSSIBLE that Benjamin and Watson Eaton had gone to the diggings and first met Abraham and his wife there. There is no record of Benjamin Frankin Eaton being near Dromana until about 1890; he was probably at the diggings for over three decades being very prominent at Creswick as a race owner and providing the town's water supply.

LOVIE, John.
A surname not easy to forget. Grantee of much of the land that comprised the Tootgarook swamp, as can be seen on the Wannaeue parish map*.
*The link provided by Janilye in a comment under my journal no longer works so use this one.

At the time I wrote the journal in 2015, I was not aware of Victorian BDM. The birth records of the children of John and Susan give an indication of where they might have been living, depending on the availability of registrars and medical help if needed.
1863 Collingwood; 1865, 1866 Ballarat; 1867, 1868 Snapper Point;
1870, 1872 Tootgarook ; 1875, 1877, 1879, 1881, 1884, 1885, 1887 Collingwood.

MANNERS SUTTON. See Blairgowrie.

MANTON'S CREEK RUN. This was the eastern portion of the parish of Flinders, the western part being John and Edward Barker's Cape Schanck run. The only information gleaned from local histories was that Manton was only in that area when his other properties were affected by drought. A newspaper account* of a huge battle between Goulburn and Yarra Yarra aborigines revealed that Manton actually had a given name, Charles*.
A pitched battle between the Upper
and Lower Goulburn blacks on the one side, and
the Yarra Yarra and Barrabool blacks on the
other, was fought on Thursday last, in
Mr. Ryrie's suburban allotment on the outskirts
of Collingwood. The fight continued, without
intermission for several hours, and several of the
combatants were wounded, four severely, without
any attempt being made on the part of the autho-
rities to put a stop to the affray. Ultimately a
reconciliation was effected through the interven-
tion of the townsfolk and all traces of hostilities
were drowned in a jollification terminating after
nightfall in a corroboree. The wounded war-
riors were removed to the hospital, where they
still remain in considerable danger. The cause of
the quarrel, we understand, was the atrocious
murder of a young Goulburn black, by some of
the Yarra Yarra tribe, at Mr. Charles Manton's
station, near Western Port*
, some months since.
(P.3, The Melbourne Weekly Courier, 10-2-1844.

*This could have meant the Manton's Creek run or another station near Tooradin mentioned in the Manton family article.

His given name enabled me to find this Port Phillip Pioneers article about the Manton family. (Paste this into your search bar to get the article.)

The Boonwurrung word for some feature of Mantons Creek was Merimendiewokewoke. Henry Tuck must have told his children about this word some time after he settled on the run in 1846 but such a long word must have been difficult to recall decades later and led to this mistake in the Flinders Wikipedia article.
"Flinders was once believed to have previously been known as Mendi-Moke, but this has subsequently been denied.[3]"
(3. Flinders, Victoria, Australia, was never called Mendi-Moke familytreecircles Retrieved 30 January 2021.)

MURRAY ANDERSON RD, ROSEBUD. This was an early subdivisional road in crown allotment 18 Wannaeue between Adams Avenue and Jetty Rd. This 152 acre block had been subdivided by Charles Blakey circa 1871 when Jack Jones bought the 2 acre lot 86; he built a tiny store on the Jetty Rd corner in 1884-5. The remaining land became a 150 acre farm bought from the Blakey executors in 1874 by Robert White who died in 1881 and ownership passed to his son, Blooming Bob White. There is later detail of the farm's ownership in the HENRY POTTON'S FARM chapter of Peter Wilson's ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD. De Garis, a developer, created the HEART OF ROSEBUD ESTATE and under a plan of the estate, Peter Wilson wondered who Murray Anderson was. I had no luck in solving the puzzle circa 2010 but when one of our members asked about the origin of the road's name, I correctly assumed that De Garis and Mildura might lead to the answer. Robert Murray Anderson was born near the mouth of the Murray and became a prominent river boat captain and Mildura pioneer. Have fun scrolling down to my post on this page where the documentation of my greatest discovery is provided, but not this article which outlines the tumultuous career of De Garis, ending in suicide.
EXTRACT. Captain Robert Murray Anderson, the Mildura Scot, and his wlfe, who had already lent the Mildura laddie a few thousands, lent him more.

NAXOS. Sidney Smith Crispo initially gave this strange name to his grant "Eastbourne" (crown allotments 52 and 44 Wannaeue) at Rosebud West. The farm fronted Eastbourne Rd from a line indicated by the northern part of the east boundary of Village Glen west to Elizabeth Avenue, extending south to Hiscock Rd (a road which was reserved from Jetty Rd to Truemans Rd through the Tootgarook swamp and sensibly never constructed.) The Crispos originated in Venice and comprised a dynasty which ruled over a group of islands near Greece which the Venetians had colonised.

RYE PIER. It has been often claimed that John Campbell built the first pier at Rye in 1860 but the announcement of his successful tender in December 1866 and Robert Rowley's letter in 1887 stating that the pier had been built 20 years before prove conclusively that John finished his contact in 1867.

Article - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957)Wednesday 5 December 1866 - Page 6
... ; constructing jetty at Rye, £550, John Campbell

P. 15, THE AGE, 25-6-1867.
Sir,— Forty-five years ago I helped to ship
lime from Tootgarook, near Rye, and also
wattle bark; and since then vast quantities of
lime, wood and bark have been shipped; and this
has continued to the present day. Over 20 years
since application was made to the Government
for a jetty, and after some delay it was com
menced, and from time to time added to ; but
now, after 20 years, the jetty remains unfi-
nished, so that the Sorrento steamers object to
call on account of the danger of making fast
in its unfinished state. Considering the vast
benefit the inhabitants of Melbourne have
derived from the lime shipped at Rye, the lime-
burners consider they have been most unfairly
treated in time past, and it has been like draw-
ing blood out of a stone to get the Govern-
ment to carry on this important work.
A contract is now being carried out,
but it will not complete the jetty. When the
Commissioner of Trade and Customs was down
here he would not promise to have it com-
pleted, and the poverty of funds is pleaded for
its non-completion, and yet he has proposed a
jetty at Canterbury, where he ships lime. The
Rye people consider they have been shamefully
treated, and hold that before Canterbury jetty
is commenced Rye jetty should be finished.
Should the poverty of the Government
be so great that this work cannot at once be
completed, it is proposed by a gentleman to
solicit subscriptions from the other Australian
colonies towards this work, and he intends
applying to the various Governments. I think
it would be as well not to make the colony the
laughing stock of the other colonies, and there-
fore trust you will use your powerful interest to
get a vote for Rye jetty.— Yours. &c..
Rye, 18th Jun. R. ROWLEY.

SIMON'S CUTTING. This was the middle one of the three cuttings which climbed southwards from Boundary Rd, Dromana, namely, from the west: Bryan's, Simon's and Eaton's. I have not seen any reference to where it was but it stands to reason that it would have left Boundary Rd opposite the present Boundary Rd shops, in the Hillview Community Reserve. Colin McLear referred to the man who created the cutting as Simon the Belgian but some called him a Frenchman. Rate records reveal that he was Henry Bernard Simon and trove reveals that he was indeed a Belgian.

H.B.Simon bought c/a's 3A and 3B of section 3 Kangerong from the crown,a total of about 68 acres which extended halfway to the LINE OF Pindara Rd continued as the southern boundary of Robert Caldwell's Dromana Hill (the quarry boundary in Melway 158JK 12) to the blue line in Melway190 A1, The 82 acres purchased by George McLear, c/a 3, section 3 Kangerong, continued south to the line described.

Between the aforesaid line and Arthurs Seat Rd which bends to the south east from the south west corner of the quarry at 159 J 12 were crown allotments 6A, 6 and 6B of section 3 Kangerong, all granted to H.B.Simon, which extended east to a point opposite the present Main Creek Rd corner where the east boundary of Arthurs Seat Park is shown in Melway A 1 and part A 2.

Seaforth Vineyard occupies part of c/a 6 whose west boundary at 190 A1 adjoins a path marked OT dam 1 km. The dam is at 160 B 12. I once walked from the car park to the Arthurs Seat summit (via the OT dam which came as a great surprise) and I reckon that I was walking in the footsteps of Henry Bernard Simon.

The Belgian's homestead, 230 yards (210 metres or ten and a half chains) from Boundary Rd would have been where the word RESERVE is written in Hillview Community Reserve and the walking path at the top of 160 A 10 might have been the start of Simon's Cutting.
VENICE PARK OR VENUS PARK. See the first entry under WILSON.


WELLS. Henry Cadby Wells was a Frankston pioneer but was living in the Sorrento area by 1841 when his daughter was born, having arrived to burn lime with Robert Rowley. When the 1843 depression stopped demand for lime he returned to Melbourne and resumed his bootmaking trade that provided the means to buy a boat circa 1849 and partner Robert Robert Rowley in a new venture, crayfishing, which was lucrative but short-lived when the boat came down on its anchor in Westernport due to tidal variation and was holed. Henry also leased Thomas Smith's "Nyora" (now the Ranelagh Estate) for a few years from 1859. Steve Johnson, a Wells Kelly descendant, contacted itellya on 15-12-2011, informing me that Decimus and Richard Wells were born at "Nyora" in 1861 and 1864 and later referred me to:

The Irish White family was among the earliest pioneers of the Sorrento area. Pam Colvin is a descendant of this family. Pam was convinced that Robert White, renting a hut from the Cairns brothers at Boneo and grantee of c/a 11, Rosebud Fishing Village, was a person with that name in her family tree, and so was I until a family tree circles member called toolaroo contacted itellya. He was a descendant of the Scottish White family. I put them in touch with each other to sort this out.
Most of these entries in Don Jordan's index for LIME LAND LEISURE would be relevant.
White brothers (lime burners) 54, 57, 149
kilns and huts on McDonald’s Nepean map xvi
White, George (brother of Richard and Robert), as
pastoral pioneer and lime burner 157
White George (carrier)
buys William’s butcher shop for residence 158*
marries Nellie Dark 115
works as carrier at Butchers Hill 115
White, Georgiana (daughter of Richard), marries
Mr Meaden 157
White, Gregor W., as deputy shire secretary (1976)
White, Richard (brother of George and Robert)
as lime burner and supplier 157
marries Eliza Taylor 157
White, Robert (brother of George and Richard)
as pastoral pioneer and lime burner 157
boundaries of pastoral run (1848) 70
*Don Jordan has done an extraordinary job sorting out Ned Williams' story because it was hidden in the WHITE story on page 158; I was wondering whom Edward White was!
William, Edward (lime burner and contractor)
builds “Yardee” and “Eastbourne” 158
marries and has family 157
opens butcher shop at Sorrento 43
sinks wells in Queensland with others 158
William, Edward Jnr (butcher at Sorrento) 158

William, Edward (lime burner and contractor)
builds “Yardee” and “Eastbourne” 158
marries and has family 157
opens butcher shop at Sorrento 43
sinks wells in Queensland with others 158
William, Edward Jnr (butcher at Sorrento) 158

James and Laurence White, Balnarring.

Robert White (1804-1881), a shoemaker, son of Henry White and Margaret nee Cairns, from Menstrie in Scotland, and his youngest children Janet, born 1839, Ann, born 1842, and Blooming Bob White, born 1849, came to Victoria aboard the JOHN LINN, leaving Liverpool on 28-2-1859 and arriving at Melbourne on 25-6-1859. Ann married Henry Bucher and Janet who married Charles James was referred to by Isobel Moresby as Granny James.

Whites Rd at Melway 171 G-K 4 was named after Janet White's son Bullocky Bob White, who was raised as Robert James and under that name was granted c/a 27 A1 of 160 acres 1 rood and 39 perches at Melway 190A-C 7,8 on 6-4-1897. He married Mary Hannah Roberts who was unrelated to Rosebud's early postmaster, John Roberts, rather Christopher Roberts an early grantee near Roberts Rd at Melway 255 B1.

Through the Hillis connection Robert White's offspring were related to many Red Hill pioneering families which is why Stephen Lynch (toolaroo) named his book PENINSULA PIONEERS.
I wrote this journal in 2013, just after the identity of Blooming Bob White had been confirmed.

There were many pioneers with this surname near Mornington and Arthurs Seat. There were probably more near Sorrento and Portsea but I have not extensively researched that area.
1. I believe that Wilson Rd, Mornington is named after Professor W. P. Wilson and that Venice Park should actually be Venus Park. His feat would have passed into the area's folklore by word of mouth and the park was probably not named until the Wolfdene estate was subdivided by which time the enthusiastic astronomer had been forgotten.

And five more.

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