J.P.FAWKNER'S CO-OPS,SURNAMES LIST FOR PART SECTIONS 6, 7, TULLAMARINE (and George Scarlett.) :: FamilyTreeCircles.com Genealogy
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Journal by itellya

The names in the surnames list are the members of John Pascoe Fawkner's co-operative which purchased land in the part of sections 6 and 7 on the south west side of Bulla Rd (now Melrose Drive)in the parish of Tullamarine.

Section 5 was "Stewarton" (renamed Gladstone in about 1892 after the Engllsh Prime Minister's cousin. Its south west corner was the present corner of Lackenheath Drive and Mickleham Rd (Melway 5 J11.) Its boundary with the Township of Broadmeadows was Forman St (5 K7.) The eastern boundary was the Moonee Ponds Creek.

By drawing a line between Forman St and the west end of Grants Rd, the northern boundary of section 6 and all but about 180 metres of section 7 can be seen. If you continue the line of Lackenheath Drive 16 centimetres to the west on your Melway,you will find the exact south west corner of section 7 (just 5mm on the map north of gate 22 on Operations Rd.) The boundary between sections 5 and 6 was Broadmeadows Rd (now Mickleham Rd.)

J.C.Riddell, after whom Riddell's Creek was named,purchased section 6 and as the south west corner was across the road (a triangle roughly enclosed by Link Rd, Trade Park and Melrose Drive, he sold it to Fawkner. In return, Fawkner sold to Riddell the north east corner of section 7, a triangle south of the Cleanaway waste facility mainly comprised of Melway 5 E7.

The Melway reference and lot number of each purchaser's block(s)will be given in the journal: JOHN PASCOE FAWKNER AND HIS CO-OPERATIVES.

In comments, garyboy alerted me to the issue in which George Scarlett's land was advertised for sale. The location of the land and lot numbers are given in my comment following his. The map showing subdivision lots has been sent to garyboy and is available to descendants of the other pioneers named in the surname list.The digitisation needed correction,which I have done, so that garyboy can copy and paste from here (there are still a few errors on trove.) The Lady of the Lake hotel was built on section 3 by David William O'Niall,subject of one of my journals, on land leased from William Foster by about 1847 and was a well-known landmark.It was just south of the Derby St corner and adjoined Broombank (Millar Rd area), leased by my great grandfather, John Cock, from 1867 until 1882. The 10 acre lot adjoined lots 31 and 32 and the reason it needed to be fenced separately is that a lane ran between it and the double block. (See my comment under garyboy's.)

By Order of the Executors of the late Mr. George Scarlett.
Farms on the Deep Creek Road, Ten Miles from Melbourne.
A BLISS and CO. have received Instructions from the executors of the late Mr. George Scarlett to submit to public auction, at the Lady of the Lake, on the Deep Creek road, on Monday, 4th September, at two o'clock,
20 acres of beautiful agricultural land, having erected there a very substantially built four-roomed wooden
house, panelled doors, spouted, with a tank capable of holding water for the year; all fenced in, clear
and ready for the plough.
Also, 10 acres of splendid land adjoining, partially fenced in. To be sold in one lot or separately.
This being the property of a trust estate it must be sold without reserve, for the benefit of those interested
under the will.
Terms-Half cash, the remainder to remain (at the option of the purchaser) for two years at 8 per cent, on mortgage. 101. (Item 8,column 2,page 7, Argus, 26-8-1854.)

And as always when I help a family historian,I receive as much information as I give.

Thanks xxx for your well researched information relating to the location and sale of George Scarlett's land holdings in 1856. Interesting about the nearby Lady of the Lake Hotel and a very good chance George and sons patronized the establishment at some time. Interesting that George sought to acquire a rural acreage as after arriving in Melbourne in March 1841 with his wife and six children he established a jewelry business in Collins street however sales could not have been as brisk as expected and by 1843 he appeared on the Port Phillip Insolvency list. I'm uncertain as to when he applied for and was granted his land at Tullamarine but I know he was living there in early 1854 as his grandson also named George was born there in February of that year. I discovered this fact quite recently when I viewed a copy of George's 1878 (Ballarat) wedding certificate. Young George'e father James who was also residing at the Tullarmarine farm listed his occupation as gardener. Perhaps James and his other two brothers were farming the block however on the 14th June 1854 George (snr) passed away at the Watermans Arms Hotel in Little Collins street of a stroke, aged 52. I was never aware until a few months back whilst conducting a family history that the second son James Scarlett married an Irish Famine orphan girl, Lilly Ann Barber (Barbour) in 1853. They died in 1901 and 1903 and are buried in the Ballarat Cemetery. Lilly Ann was my grandfathers grandmother but I never heard him ever mention his Irish ancestry, Also my father who lived to 95 never mentioned Lilly Barber, George's Bankruptcy or of him dying in the Waterman's Arms. Possibly they never knew or it was things best forgotten. Thanks to Google it's not. Getting back to the Tullarmarine block.... I notice that a large portion of the 20 acres is outside the Airport restricted area so hopefully there isn't a problem with access as much of the area appears to unfenced open grassland. Aspirations to locate the site of the original dwelling which presumably would be on the northern section adjoining Andersons? lane. We'll see how I go and will keep you posted if I'm fortunate enough to stumble upon any relics of the era.. Apologies for straying into my ancestors closet but without your diligent and painstaking research I would have been facing an arduous task researching the Tullamarine connection. Kind Regards, Gary.

To save me sending a further email to Gary,having already told him about the 1858 advertisements, the partly fenced 10 acre block must have sold in 1854 but not lots 31 and 32. There is no doubt that Gary will be able to make a close inspection of the East Collingwood corner block (if he can find out which corner.) The Park/Stafford St intersection is at Melway 2C J8.The house block at Tullamarine (36 x 26 feet, about 10 x 8 metres) occupied only a small part of the 20 acres (140 x 280 metres) so the majority of the land was used for farming.

As stated earlier,each 10 acre block (on map 5 in my 1999 Melway) measures roughly 7 millimetres (frontage) by 14 millimetres (depth), the boundary dimensions having been roughly 700 links X 1400 links (140 metres X 280 metres.) As it would have been ridiculous to try to measure fractions of amillimetreI had to divide up the space filled with 10 acre blocks so that the space was filled and all blocks had the same dimensions (as demonstrated by title documents.) Using the dimensions of 700 X 1400 links,the product is 9.8 acres,fairly close to 10 acres.Gary will find that the total frontage of lots 31 and 32 on the map that I sent him is actually 14.5 millimetres so that the width of each 10 acre block is 7.25 millimetres (obtained by dividing the total space as described above.) As you can see,the Maths I learnt at school was not entirely useless and any subdivision maps I have produced were done with such care that I have actually found mistakes in parish maps as a result,such as the spot where Arundel Creek flows into the Maribyrnong River in Foote's Doutta Galla map.

To Speculators,Persons Seeking Investments, and Others
Unreserved Sale of Valuable Freehold Property.
By Order of tho Executor and Trustee of the late George Scarlett
SYMONS and PERRY have received instructions from the executor and trustee of the late George Scarlett to SELL by AUCTION, at their new rooms, Collins-street, on Monday, 8th inst, at 12 o'clock,
Lot 1.
2O acres, a little more or less, part of section 7, parish of Tullamarine, county of Bourke, 10 miles from
Melbourne, on the Deep Creek-road, and near the Beech Tree Hotel, on which is erected a good substantial weatherboard house standing on a frontage of 36 feet, by a depth of 26 feet. There is also a splendid
tank, well built of stone, with a good supply of water. The land is all fenced in.
Lot 2.
All that piece or parcel of land situate in East Collingwood, having a frontage of 108 feet 6? inches to
Park street, by a depth along Stafford street of 75 feet. The above is a splendid corner allotment, and is
worthy the attention of persons seeking investments.
Terms liberal, declared at sale.
The auctioneers wish to call the attention of capitalists and speculators to the above really choice pro-
perties as being of sterling quality, and are to be sold to the highest bidder. 1970
(P.2,Argus, 8-2-1858,near bottom of column 2.)

The above is,I think,the earliest reference to the Beech Tree Hotel that I have seen. The earliest reference to it in the Cole Collection of Hotel records was a ball held there in 1864. It is possible that the Lady of the Lake Hotel had been burnt down by this time and the Junction Hotel did not exist for some time, giving John Beech an opportunity to establish his hotel without competition. The Travellers' Rest near the site of Airport West Shoppingtown probably hadn't been built and the Inverness at Oaklands Junction was far enough away.

As shown in advertisements for the Beech Tree,it also had a huge underground tank.It is likely that it was lined with stone as George Scarlett's was.

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by garyboy on 2014-01-28 21:45:14

I am a descendant of George Scarlett (1802-1854) who purchased 30 acres under J.P Fawkners Co-operative scheme. After his death in June 1854 the disposal of his estate which included a four room dwelling was conducted by the A Bliss & Co on the farm which was located on Deep Creek Road. The details of the sale was advertised in the Argus (26-08-1854) His holding was actually two blocks being 20 acres and an adjoining block of 10 acres. Itellya's well researched history of the J.P Fawkner Co-operative indicates a Melway reference however Parish Maps that I have viewed only indicate J.P Fawkners holdings and not the actual subdivision. I was hoping someone reading this may be able to assist in providing me with information on the location of the farm on Deep Creek Rd (Melrose Dr by the look of it?) or where I can obtain it. Many thanks!!! Gary Scarlett. (garyjscarlett@aol.com)

by itellya on 2014-01-29 05:01:23

Page 41 of my TULLAMARINE PARISH: EARLY LANDOWNERS has a map showing land allocated by the co-operative on the parts of section 6 and 7,parish of Tullamarine on the south west side of today's Melrose Drive. It also shows subdivision blocks on John Carre Riddell's Camieston Estate on the north east side of Melrose Drive.

Using maps from sketches of title and boundary dimensions described in title documents all of the blocks have been transposed on map 5 of my 1999 Melway.

Page 41 has been copied as a document called Sections 6, 7, 15,Tullamarine and the file should transmit as an email attachment; send me your email address in a private message, garyboy.

As the map is the only remaining vestige of the months spent in the titles office,it is unfortunate that not all details could be fitted into a 10 acre block measuring only 7x14 millimetres on the actual Melway map. But given the description in the advertisement (Argus, 26-8-1854)George's 10 acre block adjoined his double block of 20 acres so it could only be lot 30 of 10 acres. The only description of lot 30 that I wrote on my Melway was "Volume 607 folio 30" and "10 acres". There seems to be another reference to a title document regarding a lane that ran between George's double block (lots 31 and 32)and lot 30 to the west.

A line from Mickleham Rd (at the Lackenheath Drive corner) to the point where Link Rd touches the bottom of Melway 5 E 10 indicates the boundary between section 6 on the north(granted to John Carre Riddell)and section 3 to the south (granted to William Foster.) Riddell sold the part of section 6 south west of the road to Deep Creek to Fawkner. The boundary between sections 3 and 6 on Fawkner's subdivision became known as Post Office Lane and is today indicated by the northern boundary of Trade Park, opposite the Derby St. corner.

The western boundary of section 6 is a line joining the spot where Link Rd touches the bottom of 5 E10 and the barrier where Western Avenue becomes private access (to the old Cleanaway tip.) East of this line was section 7 granted to John Pascoe Fawkner. He sold the land north east of the Deep Creek road to Riddell and it later became the properties of William Love Senior and blacksmith, William Munsie (who trained Fred Wright and later retired,selling to Fred.)

Post Office Lane did not have that name in the 1850's,the first post office being near Tullamarine Junction (today's 711 service station) in the latter 1860's. It (or Anderson's Lane-see map) may have been called Caroll's Lane in early days. George Scarlett's lots 31-2 were on section 7 the point dividing them on the southern boundary being the south end of Cargo Rd and each block having a 7mm frontage (on Melway!) to either side. West of lot 31 was the lane linking (what was known as) Anderson's Lane to Post Office Lane and west of that,lot 30 of ten acres.

I may not have written the purchaser of lot 30 on my Melway because I hadn't consulted 607 30, or,more likely, there just wasn't room. Lots 26-36 all ran north from Post Office Lane to Anderson's Lane. John Ferguson was to the west of lot 30,Ben Bates to the east of lot 32, and to the north H.W.Cass and John Gibbs.Section 2 (Annandale)to the south of section 7 was not subdivided, so George's adjoining 10 acre block could not have been to the east, north or south; it had to be lot 30 to the west.

The north west corner of lot 30 is where South Centre Rd touches the top of 5 C10 and the midpoint of the Post Office Lane frontage is indicated by the South Centre Rd/Operations Rd roundabout. The frontage (on the Melway page!) extending 3.5 millimetres to east and west.

Send me a private message with contact details garyboy and I'll send you the map.

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