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John Charles COE UK 1865

Journal by lmsvic

I've been looking for information on John Charles COE, my maternal Great Grandfather. He came to Australia in 1881 working on the Chimbarazo, as a 16 yr. old boy. He returned to England and came back to Australia the next year. He appeared to work on ships up and down the coast, until he finally settled in Port Melbourne, Victoria. He married Annie SMITH in 1886 and their son Edward John was my Grandfather.
I have had trouble finding and proving who his family in the UK were. He named his father as Isaac on his marriage certificate and mother unknown. I found a family with Isaac as the widowed father, but can't find much more.
I have also found an Annie SMITH (COE) who died after a fight with another woman in Melbourne. But can't find any information on her death.
I hope someone out there has some information. Looking forward to hearing from you.

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on 2015-01-07 05:22:37

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by asheppard on 2015-01-07 17:03:30

Is this the Census you found

Isaac French
[Isaac Coe]
[Isaac Coe]
[Isaac Coe]
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Great Maplestead, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Halstead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Halstead
County/Island: Essex
Household Members:
Name Age
Isaac French 45
George French 16
James French 15
William French 12
John French 10

children all born Halstead Essex

1861 Census
Name: Isaac Coe
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Coe
Gender: Male
Where born: Great Maplestead, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Halstead
Household Members:
Name Age
Isaac Coe 34 Bricklayers lab
Sarah Coe 33 Crape Weaver (quite a few families in area also Crape Weavers)
Sarah Coe 9
George Coe 8
William Coe 2
Eliza Coe 1
James Coe 7

Sarah & children all born Halstead

1851 Census
Name: Isaac Coe
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Coe
Gender: Male
Where born: Gt Maplestead, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Halstead
Household Members:
Name Age
Isaac Coe 23 Ag lab
Sarah Coe 23 Crape Weaver
Ellen Coe 1

by asheppard on 2015-01-07 17:14:15

Isaac in 1841

Name: Isaac Coe
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Gender: Male
Where born: Essex, England
Civil Parish: Great Maplestead
Hundred: Hinckford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Household Members:
Name Age
John Coe 62
Elizabeth Coe 58
George Coe 21
Isaac Coe 13 ag lab

marriage
Name: Isaac Coe
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Marriage Date: 24 May 1850
Marriage Place: Halstead, Essex, England
Marriage Age: 23
Father: John Coe
Spouse: Sarah Argent
FHL Film Number: 1472338
Reference ID: Item 1 p212

Name: Sarah Argent
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 24 May 1850
Marriage Place: Halstead, Essex, England
Marriage Age: 22y
Father: John
Spouse: Isaac Coe
FHL Film Number: 1472338
Reference ID: Item 1 p212


From freebmd.org.uk
Marriages Jun 1850
Argent Sarah Halstead 12 138
Coe Isaac Halstead 12 138


possible death for Sarah
Deaths Jun 1864
Coe Sarah Halstead 4a 210

there also this one
Deaths Sep 1869
Coe Sarah 43 Halstead 4a 231

by asheppard on 2015-01-07 17:25:53

This is the only John I could find in Halstead

Births Mar 1862
COE John Halstead 4a 291

you would need to purchase a copy

by tonkin on 2015-01-07 19:22:28

You mentioned Annie COE (nee SMITH) died in Melbourne after a fight with another woman but you are unable to located her death.
Annie's year of death may assist with record searches.

by tonkin on 2015-01-07 22:04:45

This is the only DEATH I have located for Annie COE.
Father should have been named as James SMITH and not James COE. Father's name may have been an informant error. Not sure about the mother.

Name: Annie COE.
Died: 1901 Melbourne East, Victoria.
Age: 39 years.
Father: James COE.
Mother: Catherine LYONS.
Ref: Registry of Deaths, Victoria. Reg #14566.

by tonkin on 2015-01-07 22:42:18

I don't know if the death of Annie COE above is the same Annie SMITH married to John COE in 1886 but this appears to be her birth.
Note parents names.

Name: Annie SMITH.
Born: 1862 Melbourne, Victoria.
Father: James SMITH.
Mother: Catherine LYONS.
Ref: Registry of Births, Victoria. Reg #4040.

In another posting you have Annie's parents named as James SMITH and Annie SMITH, so it may not be the same Annie you are looking for.

I'm unable to locate any births for James SMITH and Annie SMITH in Victoria.
The death certificate for Annie COE in 1901 may name her husband and if she had a son named Edward John COE.

by lmsvic on 2015-01-08 07:12:50

Annie COE nee SMITH named her father as James SMITH and mother as Annie FINLEY on her marriage certificate. Her birth would have been 1865 if she told the truth on marriage certificate which was 21. I think James SMITH was possibly born in USA. Annie COE's death year was 1901.
Thankyou.

by lmsvic on 2016-09-18 02:12:23

Can anyone help with info.on Sarah Argent Coe.
Sarah was a silk weaver in Halstead UK, and was born in 1828 and married John Coe in 1850. She died at around 35 but I can't find any more.

by LeonieS on 2022-09-14 06:51:55

by LeonieS on 2022-09-14 07:04:18

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