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LIDDIARD George and Elder ROUSE

Journal by tonkin

Information Journal.

George LIDDIARD and Elder ROUSE.

Marriage details not located at time of posting.

George died 27 March 1897, Corny Point, South Australia.
Age: 52 years.
Status: Married.
Residence: Corny Point, South Australia.

Elder died 27 November 1933, Yorketown, South Australia.
Age: 86 years.
Status: Widow.
Residence: Corny Point, South Australia.
Deceased husband named as George LIDDIARD.

Eight children located South Australian records for George and Elden.
Elden also recorded as Ellen in the birth records.

[1]

Alice Maud LIDDIARD.
Born: 15 January 1877, not recorded, South Australia.
Died: -

[2]

Albert Stephen LIDDIARD.
Born: 20 May 1879, not recorded, South Australia.
Died: 26 June 1854, Corny Point, South Australia.
Age: 75 years.
Status: Single.

[3]

George LIDDIARD.
Born 12 March 1881, Warooka, South Australia.
Birth recorded as George Liddiard BARCLAY.
Father recorded as George Liddiard BARCLAY.
Mother recorded as Ellen ROUSE.
Died: 09 May 1942, Adelaide Hospital, South Australia.
Age: 61 years.
Status: Married.
Residence: Corny Point, South Australia.

Married: Mary ROBINSON.
Date: 18 April 1922.
Place: St Paul Church, Adelaide, South Australia.

[4]

Ada LIDDIARD.
Born: 27 March 1883, Warooka, South Australia.
Died: 07 February 1919, Adelaide, South Australia.
Age: 35 years.
Status: Single.

[5]

Florence Adelaide LIDDIARD.
Born: 15 June 1884, Carribie, South Australia.
Died: 06 November 1920, Corny Point, South Australia.
Age: 36 years.
Status: Single.

[6]

Charles LIDDIARD.
Born: 06 October 1885, Corny Point, South Australia.
Died: 17 July 1913, Corny Point, South Australia.
Age: 27 years.
Status: Single.

[7]

Hilder Lucy LIDDIARD.
Born: 24 February 1888, Head of Carrabie, South Australia.
Died: 05 April 1913, Corny Point, South Australia.
Age: 25 years.
Status: Not recorded.

[8]

William Arthur LIDDIARD.
Born: 07 September 1889, Head of Carrabie, South Australia.
Died: 01 March 1954, North Adelaide, South Australia.
Age: 64 years.
Status: Widower.
Residence: Corny Point, South Australia.

Married 1: Myrtle Rhoda HAMLYN nee HIRSCHFIELD.
Date: 26 July 1922.
Place: St Benedicts Church, Minlaton.
See Marriage Notes below.

Married 2: Martha Rosalia HAMLYN nee HIRSCHFIELD.
Date: 10 June 1925.
Place: Registry Office, Adelaide, South Australia.
See Marriage Notes below.

Martha died 20 June 1938 in Yorketown, South Australia.
Death recorded as Myrtle Rosa LIDDIARD.
Age: 38 years.
Status: Married.
Residence: Corny Point, South Australia.
Husband named as William Arthur LIDDIARD.

Birth note.
Martha was born 26 May 1900 in Eudanda, South Australia.
Birth recorded as Martha Rosalia HIRSCHFIELD.
Parents named as Jacob Daniel HIRSCHFIELD and Auguste Pauline GEISTER.

Three children located South Australian records for William and Martha.
Note.
When it came to the births of their children Martha was recorded as Myrtle as indicated below.

1.
Shirley Elder LIDDIARD.
Born: 14 June 1923, Yorketown, South Australia.
Mother recorded as Myrtle Rhoda HIRSCHFIELD.

2.
Joan Pauline LIDDIARD.
Born: 21 November 1924, Adelaide, South Australia.
Mother recorded as Myrtle Rose HIRSCHFIELD.

3.
Donald Arthur LIDDIARD.
Born: 20 October 1926, Yorketown, South Australia.
Mother recorded as Myrtle Rosalie HIRSCHFIELD.

Marriage Notes.
The marriage records indicate William Arthur LIDDIARD married the same woman twice. The bride's given names, status, and father's name change in both records. Here are the details for William's two marriages in 1922 and 1925.

William's first marriage 1922.

Groom: William Arthur LIDDIARD.
Age: 32 years.
Status: Single.
Father: George LIDDIARD.

Bride: Myrtle Rhoda HAMLYN nee HIRSCHFIELD.
Age: 22 years.
Status: Widow.
Father: John Daniel HIRSCHFIELD.

Date married: 26 July 1922.
Place: St Benedicts Church, Minlaton.

William's second marriage 1925.

Groom: William Arthur LIDDIARD.
Age: 35 years.
Status: Single.
Father: George LIDDIARD.

Bride: Martha Rosalia HAMLYN nee HIRSCHFIELD.
Age: 25 years.
Status: Divorced.
Father: Jacob Daniel HIRSCHFIELD.

Date married: 10 June 1925.
Place: Registry Office, Adelaide, South Australia.

When looking at the two marriages above it appears to me Myrtle Rhoda and Martha Rosalia are the same person. When Myrtle Rhoda married William in 1922 shs gave her status as widow. Here are the details for Myrtle's first marriage to Ernest HAMLYN:

Groom: Ernest Raymore HAMLYN.
Age: 22 years.
Status: Single.
Father: Alfred Ernest HAMLYN.

Bride: Myrtle Rosa HIRSCHFIELD.
Age: 21 years.
Status: Single.
Father: John Daniel HIRSCHFIELD.

Date married: 23 February 1922.
Place: Belmont Berri, South Australia.

Ernest HAMLYN was still alive and kicking when Myrtle Rosa, now going by the name of Myrtle Rhoda, married William LIDDIARD in 1922. Ernest HAMLYN remarried in 1927 age 28 years and his status was recorded as divorced. It appears to me Myrtle was still married to Ernest when she married William in 1922, and this may explain why she gave her status as widow.

When Martha and William were married the second time in 1925 she used her correct birth names of Martha Rosalia and her status was recorded as divorced. Interesting to note William's status was recorded as single.

When looking at the marriage details and birth dates of their children it is easy to get confused. It would be interesting to find out when Martha (or Myrtle) obtained her divorce from Ernest HAMLYN, and if she was ever charged for bigamy. Further research may find the answer.
See comment below from asheppard regarding divorce for Ernest and Myrtle.

Sources:
Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages, South Australia.

JN 58882

Surnames: 58882 BARCLAY GEISTER HAMLYN HIRSCHFIELD LIDDIARD ROBINSON ROUSE
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on 2014-04-01 18:30:41

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Comments

by lmsvic on 2015-01-07 05:44:14

Hi, just wondering if the details you have on Martha Rosalia Hirschfeld Hamlyn LIddiard were in actual Marriage Records? Thanks. Regards Leonie.

by lmsvic on 2015-01-07 05:48:33

Hi, just wondering if the details you have on Martha Rosalia Hirschfeld Hamlyn LIddiard were in actual Marriage Records? Thanks. Regards Leonie.
By the way, my father Leo Maxwell HIRSCHFELD was born to Martha in 1920 and there was also another child, Mona LIDDIARD born after the 3 children recorded.

by tonkin on 2015-01-07 18:14:35

Hello Imsvic.

All marriage details for Martha were obtained from the Registry of Marriages for South Australia. Marriage certificates may provide extra details.

Martha's son Leo was born before her first marriage to Ernest HAMLYN in 1922.
No way of knowing if Ernest was Leo's father.

BIRTH.
Name: Leo Maxwell HIRSCHFELD.
Born: 08 October 1920, Eastwood, South Australia.
Father: Not recorded.
Mother: Martha Rosalie HIRSCHFELD.
Ref: Registry of Births, South Australia. Book 63A. Page 538.

by asheppard on 2015-01-07 18:30:15

Divorce - Trove

News (Adelaide)
Tue 01 July 1924
A decree nisi was granted. Ernest Raymond Hamlyn, of Colton, secured a decree nisi in his petition for divorce from Myrtle Rosa Hamlyn (formerly Hirschfield) on account of misconduct with William Arthur Liddiard, of Corney Point.

by tonkin on 2015-01-07 21:32:10

Thank you for taking the time to pass on the above asheppard.
This explains the two marriage dates, and a few other things.

Cheers.

by lmsvic on 2015-01-12 06:55:23

Thankyou both ashephard and toning for your help.

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