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Looking for Ann BIRD'S 3rd HUSBAND ?

Query by lynda1

Ann BIRD m Josiah FLETCHER he died 1845
Ann FLETCHER m George HALL (convict)1846
I have been told he died 4 or 5 years later ,my brickwall is did she marry again ?Where did she go?

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on 2011-05-26 06:49:59

lynda1 , from Australia, has been a Family Tree Circles member since Mar 2011. is researching the following names: FLETCHER, HANSON, HANSEN and 22 other(s).

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by ngairedith on 2011-05-26 06:51:43

where were they born lynda ?? and married ??

by janilye on 2011-05-26 08:11:15

She married the next yeaR 4 February 1846 at St.James. Josiah died on the 24 February 1845, He's buried at the cemetery by old St.James Cathedral at Docklands (used to be West Melbourne) Ann Bird had a daughter to George HALL, CAROLINE ANN HALL b:1848 in Fitzroy died 1894 in Melbourne.
The daughter married Thomas Cawthorne. I believe they lived at Woods Point and could have owned the Commercial Hotel at Woods Point, (which is still a very fine pub I might add :)
As far as Ann Hall goes I don't know.Difficult without a death date but you never know, you could give St.James a call, see if she's buried there and find out about Josiah Fletcher.
The archivist there, is Jan Wells phone/fax number is
03 93290903

by lynda1 on 2011-05-26 08:35:48

Thank you for information,I know Josiah drowned.Merrie Creek .But
didn't know about where he was burried.

by tonkin on 2011-05-26 09:11:50

An Inquest was held for Josiah's death in 1845. Cause of death was accidental drawning. Inquest Ref: #16. Occupation recorded as Reaper. You can obtain a copy of the Inquest papers from the Public Record Office in North Melbourne if interested. It will make interesting reading and should give you a few more details about him.

by janilye on 2011-05-26 23:13:35

George HALL born abt.1815 in Hertfordshire was tried and convicted at Hertfordshire on 28 November 1833 sentenced to life. Transported to NSW. Left London on the Roslin Castle on the 27 May 1833 arrived in NSW on the 15 September 1834. occupation Farm Labourer, of good and respectable behaviour. Received ticket of leave in 1834 applied to marry Ann FLETCHER in December 1845. married 4 February 1846. on marriage application he was 4 years older than Ann Fletcher, nee BIRD.

* in reference to another of your posts, Newtown is not in Melbourne it is in Geelong.

by tonkin on 2011-05-27 05:38:38

Newtown was also known as Scaresdale.

by tonkin on 2011-05-27 05:39:17

by lynda1 on 2011-05-27 07:31:59

I know Newtown is near Geelong,but l thought there was a 'newtown'
next to Collingwood 1840's as John Fletcher was b Newtown Melb
and Josiah and family lived Brunswick St.Collingwood,

by janilye on 2011-05-27 08:08:12

You're right, so there was. I think it was up off spring Street somewhere. Up towards Victoria Parade. I'll have a look at an old map tomorrow. I don't have one here at home.

by janilye on 2011-05-27 08:11:57

"Brunswick Street, believed to be named after Captain Brunswick Smythe, owes its origins to Benjamin Baxter, who owned a lot of land along Victoria Parade, in the recently proclaimed township of Newtown (now Brunswick South). Baxter's lot was Lot 49, which was adjacent to Lot 48 on the north-west corner of Victoria Parade and Nicholson Street."
There you go, I've learn't something new today

by tonkin on 2011-05-27 08:16:44

Compolsory registration of births started in 1853. The births recorded in the VBI between 1836 and 1853 are baptism records. When you looked up John's birth you found he was born in Newtown in 1843. You will also see Denomination: Roman Catholic, and, Parish: St Francis Church Melbourne. This is where his baptism was recorded. Hope this explains why Newtown and Melbourne have been recorded by the VBI.

by janilye on 2011-05-27 08:26:51

The Argus Thursday 3 March 1859

Funeral Notices.
THE Friends of the late Mr. EDWARD CHAFFE
are respectfully invited to follow his remains to the place of interment, the New Cemetery, Melbourne. The funeral to move from his residence, Albion township, near Saltwater River, this day, Thursday, March 3, at 12 o'clock noon.
JOHN DALEY, undertaker, corner La Trobe and Spring streets, Melbourne.

by ngairedith on 2011-05-27 09:06:22
by tonkin on 2011-05-28 09:24:54

Well done Jan.

This seems to fit with the death I have for Edward CHAFFE. The VDI does not record his place of death, but we know his last child was born in Albion in 1856. The residence of this Edward CHAFFE is also in Albion, so it must be him.

I will have to update my post again for Edward and Emline CHAFFE and include this funeral notice.

Hope your keeping up with all this Lynda.

by janilye on 2011-05-28 15:25:04

George HALL died age 35 on the 24 January 1850. His death is listed in the New South Wales, Australia, Convict Death Register, 1826-1879

by janilye on 2011-05-28 17:33:51

Josiah Fletcher 1816-1845 and his wife Ann, nee BIRD and their 2 children Edmund 3 and George 14 months arrived in Port Phillip Bay on the 2 January 1841 aboard the 'Salsette' which departed from Liverpool. Their nationalities were given as Irish/Scottish. His occupation House Painter and she is a house servant. She states she is from Ireland and he says he's from Manchester. Oddly it gives her age as 22 but his as 34

Josiah and Ann had two more children after their arrival before Josiah died. Their children were:-

1. Edmund Fletcher 1837 d:21 March 1899 in Jerilderie, NSW m. Margaret O'BRIEN and had 8 children.Sarah Jane 1863?1942, John 1865-1912, Caroline 1867?1942, Edmund 1870, George 1874?1875, Emily 1878?1945 Margaret 1881, May 1883?1958. Edmund died in Jerilderie

2.George Fletcher 1839 m. Emily TONKINS and had 3 girls-
Annie June 1868, Sarah Emily 1872, Eliza Caroline 1874.

3 John Clifton Fletcher 1843?1919 m.Emily CHAFFE had Enily Flaurence Maud 1870?1941, Ernest Peter Edward 1873?1950, Eugenie Emmiline Hannaford 1880?1949, Susie Jane 1883?1970, Cecil John 1889?1955 Basil George Wellard 1890?1917 and Melba Myee 1894. John died in Sydney.

4.Sarah Ann Fletcher 1845?1936 m. Thomas Forrester BEVERIDGE 1838-1916 and they had 6 children Edmund Forrester 1877?1963,
Ada Jane 1880 ? 1964 Percy William 1882?1950, Gertrude Ann 1884?1886 Bertie 1886-1962 and Jessie 1889?1967. Sarah Ann died in Sydney

5. And, Caroline Ann HALL 1848?189 m.Thomas CAWTHORNE they had 9 children- George and twin Thomas 1866-1866, Thomas 1869 Amy 1872, Gertrude 1874, Percy 1876, Mabel 1878, Bertie 1881 and Edith 1888.

There could be more but that's all I could find tonight. Although the immigration and Hall's death is correct you need to check everything else.
Now a marriage for Ann Hall after 1850 or a death or both would be great. (tonkin :)
Of course she could have gone to Jerilderie or Sydney.

by lynda1 on 2011-05-29 04:18:45

Thank you ,I have that much work to do now,I wil get back to you
to ask questions if thats all right.

Thanks again

by tonkin on 2011-05-29 06:28:46

Your on the ball Jan.

Caroline Ann HALL and Thomas George CAWTHORNE were married in 1865. Record searchers to date tell me they had eleven children between 1866 and 1888.

I'm looking at the death for Thomas as 1891 in East Brunswick aged 52 years. And it looks like Caroline died in the East Melbourne Hospital in 1894 aged 47 years.

Only need to chase up marriage and death details of their children, and I will do this tomorrow.

by janilye on 2014-01-11 01:20:32

@ lynda1.
Take note there was more than one Caroline and Thomas Cawthorne in Melbourne.
during the 1890's
The Argus,Tuesday 18 October 1892
CAWTHORNE?On the 17th inst., at the Alfred Hospital, Caroline Jane, wife of Thomas Cawthorne, decorator, late of London, aged 62 years. Home papera please copy.
The above Caroline Cawthorne was buried at the St.Kilda Cemetery on the 19th. Oct.

by tonkin on 2014-01-11 01:49:50

The Caroline CAWTHORNE that died in the Alfred Hospital in 1892 was the daughter of Richard ROWE and Sarah KINDALL.

by tonkin on 2014-01-11 01:53:09

I posted a family record for Caroline HALL and Thomas CAWTHORNE a few years back but don't know if lynda1 ever picked it up.

by ngairedith on 2014-01-11 02:01:57

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