Looking for Birth Records for Thomas Lyne Died Portsea 1855

By VanessaHowell66 October 31, 2013 1693 views 10 comments

Hi

Can anyone help with the birth records for Thomas Lyne, he married Mary Patrick and lived in Portsea, he was Quarter Master on HMS Victory at the time of his death in 1855. Any information on him or his wives family would be most helpful.

Thanks

Vanessa

Comments (10)

noggin

I think tis is their marriage and the family in 1841. There is just one problem on the census both Thomas and Mary are listed as being born outside Hampshire. Secondly there are no parents list on the marriage. I tried finding them in 1851 in hope of finding their birth county (s) perphaps someone will have more luck

"England Marriages, 1538–1973 "
Name: Thomas Lyne
Spouse's Name: Mary Patrick
Event Date: 31 Jul 1826
Event Place: Saint Thomas,Portsmouth,Hampshire,England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M06251-2
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 919725, 919730, 919731, 919732, 919733

1841 England Census about Thomas Lyne
Name: Thomas Lyne
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Portsea Town
Hundred: Portsmouth Borough
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Occupation: Navy
Registration District: Portsea Island
Sub-registration District: Portsea Town

Thomas Lyne 40
Mary Lyne 30
Mary Lyne 10
Harriet Lyne 9
William Lyne 5
Sarah Lyne 2
George Lyne 7 Mo

noggin

1851 England Census
Name: Mary Lyne
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810
Relation: Head
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Bow, Middlesex, England (birth place)
Civil Parish: Portsea
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address: 4, Conway Row, Portsea, Portsmouth
Occupation: seamans wife
Registration District: Portsea Island
Sub-registration District: Kingston

Mary Lyne 41
Henriett Lyne 19
Sarah Lyne 12
George Lyne 11
Fanny Lyne 9
Eliza Lyne 6
Alfred Lyne 1

Assume Thomas is at sea.

noggin

Mary Lyne (Patrick) Death 14 April 1867 in 6 Conway Street, Portsea, Hampshire
Thomas Lyne died 5th August 1855

No parents on ceath cert.

Sorry cannot help more but need county of birth for Thomas and at least fathers names for both.

noggin

This might beworth looking into, is it Mary's mother and one of Mary & Thomas's children

1841 Seymour Street, Portsea, Portsmouth.

Mary Patrick 1776 Hampshire pauper
Thomas Lyne 1826 Hampshire Navy

VanessaHowell66

Hi
I should have said but I have a detailed tree on Thomas and Mary on Ancestry, however the trail goes cold over their births, I know Thomas wasn't born in Portsea, although Mary Patrick snr was, she was married to a William Patrick, their daughter says she was born in Bow London, but if look on another census she ticks the box for being born overseas. It's a real mystery, the grandson Rear Admiral Thomas John Spence Lyne writes in his book that on his paternal side they are related to Thomas Lyne who Captained HMS Argus, he died in Westbourne Sussex, it tried but couldn't make a link another interesting fact is that Thomas Lyne (1800-1855) could read and write.
Thanks for your help
Regards
Vanessa

JamesHicks

Hi Vanessa, I am trying to make the connection between rear admiral lyne and captain Thomas Lyne, Westbourne, (1769-1848) who captained the HMS Argus as the admiral mentioned in his memoir and was curious if you had discover it? Thx in advance, James

VanessaHowell66

Hi James
Sorry for the delay. I have a copy of the Rear Admiral Thomas John Spence Lyne's book and noted his connection the Lyne's of Westbourne, but I cannot find any link. The admiral's father was called William and he was born in Portsea to a naval family, his father Thomas Lyne died in 1855 at the time he was quarter master on HMS Victory, he was born in London, if you have access to ancestry I have a lot of information on my tree, including photographs of Thomas Lyne, his wife Mary Patrick , William and many more. I also have their navy records. I have contacted relatives of Westbourne Thomas Lyne trying to make the link but have had no success, although I haven't given up yet. I think if I could find out the parentage of Thomas Lyne who died in 1855 a lot of questions could be answered, his wife Mary Patrick was the daughter of mariner William Patrick and she was born in Bow London, although her mother Mary was born in Hampshire.
I'm going to look into the bastards of Westbourne, to see who's who, there could be a link there.
Sorry I couldn't help.

Vanessa

kaymarks

Hello Vanessa,
I live in Australia and Thomas John Spence Lyne was a part of our family heritage. My maiden name is Catterall and we have our family history that puts him at the beginning of it. Are you a part of his family tree?

I have also been trying to locate a copy of his book but the ones I have found are very pricey. Do you know where I could get a copy that is a reasonable price?

Many thanks
Kay

kaymarks

William John Lyne of Devon b: 1840 married Janet Margaret Reid b:1839. She was the daughter of Colin Reid of Cromerty Scotland. These are the parents of Thomas John Spence Lyne.

VanessaHowell66

Hi Kay,
Yes I'm related to Thomas John Spence Lyne, his father William was elder brother to my 2nd x great grand mother, Elizabeth Fanny Lyne, their parents were Thomas Lyne and Mary Patrick. If you have access to ancestry I have a lot of information on my tree, including photographs of Thomas Lyne, Mary Patrick, William Lyne, Janet Reid, their children and lots more. I also have various birth, marriage and death certificates, newspaper clippings etc.
I have a copy of Thomas' book, which I bought off ebay, it was £30 and is in excellent condition, have you tried just googling the title,sometimes small book sellers come up with copies.
If you need any help, i'd be happy to help you.
Best wishes
Vanessa