Looking for Catherine Agnes Toogood Death

By Trouser99 October 11, 2014 1558 views 13 comments

Hello there

I am looking for the death date etc for Catherine Agnes toogood (Born 1902 in Leeds,Yorkshire) sister to Walter Roland Toogood (1900 - 1975)

Catherine (Kit) married Cecil Heselden (1901-1933) in 1922 and had 2 children (Harold C and Eileen dorcas 1925- ?)

she then married Alexander Dougal in Apr - Jun 1937 in Bromley,Kent

she then disappears into cyberspace.

Any information on death date and place for her would help plus Eileen dorcas Heselden)

regards

Trouser99

Comments (13)

asheppard

Eileens marriage

Marriages Sep 1941
Heselden Eileen D Walker Bromley 2a 2706
Walker Archibald Heselden Bromley 2a 2706

Trouser99

thank you Asheppard

i won't use the extra info i am aware of

With little snippets like this my 88 yo mum is remembering these things. She would have known this 60 years ago - she told me that Eileen existed but could not remember her husband

thank you again
Brian M

wizard28

England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005
Name: Robert S Dougal
Mother's Maiden Surname: Toogood
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1937
Registration district: Bromley
Inferred County: Surrey, Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 1249

wizard28

Might be Alexander's death

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Alexander Dougal
Birth Date: abt 1905
Date of Registration: Mar 1947
Age at Death: 42
Registration district: Surrey South Western
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 5g
Page: 1252

Might be Catherine remarried

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Catherine A Dougal
Spouse Surname: William E Brooks
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1955
Registration district: Sidcup
Inferred County: Kent
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 1350

Unfortunately the only way of knowing for sure would be to get the certs but £20 to be wrong !

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Catherine Agnes Brooks
Birth Date: 9 Sep 1902 (is this your Ctherine's date of birth ?? )
Date of Registration: Jul 1985
Age at Death: 82
Registration district: Bexley
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 11
Page: 307

wizard28

England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005
Name: Harold C Heselden
Mother's Maiden Surname: Toogood
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1931
Registration district: Woolwich
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 1429

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Harold C Heselden
Birth Date: abt 1931
Date of Registration: Sep 1934
Age at Death: 3
Registration district: Bromley
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 630

wizard28

England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005
Name: Janet C M Walker
Mother's Maiden Surname: Heselden
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1943
Registration district: Bromley
Inferred County: Surrey, Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 1584

wizard28

This birth and the one above may be Eileen dorcas's children

England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005
Name: Adrian V Walker
Mother's Maiden Surname: Haselden
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1944
Registration district: Chatham
Inferred County: Surrey, Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 1829

Trouser99

thanks again asheppard
Mum says she lived in sidcup all her life - she got rid of her 2nd husband(alcoholic) which makes the 3rd marriage most likely. I have her birth as 9 Dec 1902 which suggests that she did die in 1985 in Bexley.
Alexander's death cannot be the right person - decades too late
Robert S Dougal - unlikely as birth and marriage are in same quarter. Mum would have known that
It is not overly important so i am going with her 3rd marriage and her death

I learnt later today that the son was born and named Archibald and born most likey 1941 or 42 but i could find no trace

thanks for the help with Catherine's later life as mum never saw her after 1952

regards
Brian M

Trouser99

AS - The son i mentioned called Archibald was of course referring to Eileen Dorcas Heselden's son in 1941 (she was only 16 as they say)

thanks agin

wizard28

I am not asheppard but I take your thanks anyway

Robert S Dougal is he related to your family in anyway his mothers maiden name was Toogood

asheppard

I had the same thought as Wizaed28 I think you might find that Robert S Dougal is Catherines & Alexanders son, born prior to their marriage.

The death of Alexander Dougal 1947 Surrey that Wizard28 found, why is it "decades too late"?? do you know Alexanders birth year from the Marriage?

I couldn't find any Archibald Walker mothers name Heselden or Haselden 1940-1950 only Adrian V Walker 1944 that Wizard28 posted.

Trouser99

Hello again asheppard and i had better thank wizard28 (who apparantly resides in Liverpool)

I plead guilty to being confused after all day on the computer and on the phone to my mum. (I have a science degree majoring in maths so i shouldn't have made that conclusion)

My mum being 88 could be confused as well - you are probably correct in coming up with Robert S Dougal. I will follow up that line of thought and put it to mum. She knew Catherine (called Auntie Kit) at the time but lost all contact in 1952 when she emigrated to Aust (with 2 yo me). She will be happy that she remarried for a 3rd time and lived till 1985. Mum's memory of Catherine booting out Alexander for being an alcoholic probably increases the chance that he is the one who died in 1947.
Until my next fork in the road

cheers
Brian M

Trouser99

Having rethought i have come to the conclusion i must only ask for help with 1 person and not 2.
I think i had Catherine and Eileen Dorcas mixed up in my mind as well

it appears Catherine and Alexander Dougal married in 1937 having a son Robert S Dougal
She then kicked Alex out and he died in 1947.
Meanwhile Eileen Dorcas Heselden marries at 16 to a Archibald Walker in 1941. The son (according to Mum) is named Archibald after the father.
As he would be my 3rd cousin "x" times removed it really isn't that important
I am 99.9% confident that Catherine married this Brooks fellow in 1955 and died in 1985 in Bexley aged 83.

thanks to both of you - asheppard and wizard28 for your help in getting me back on the right track
Brian M