Looking for George SHAND of Bermondsey London England
shandyman
I am looking for the birth/baptism/christening records for George. He was a sack and tarpaulin manufacturer in or around Bermondsey in the early 1800's (born c.1782 sourced from his death record). He married a Sally LONG in the early 1800's and their first recorded child was George Long SHAND born in 1805.
Both George Long Shand (my Gr gr grand uncle)and his son Augustus ran the sack and tarpaulin business in their turn and both became Mayors of Bermondsey.
Any help would be appreciated.
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PRShand on 2013-03-30 11:18:57George was was my Gr Gr Gr Grandfather. Unfortunately I cannot find any birth/baptism/christening records for him either. If you have found information since you posted this I would like to hear. George's business was originally sail making before they turned to sack and tarpaulin manufacturer
Peter Shand
shandyman on 2013-04-01 06:03:14Good Morning Peter
I have still not been able to trace birth etc records. However he appears to have been living at 13 Vine Yard in 1851 (Census records) and in the Sailmakers Almshouses in Bromley in 1861 (Census Records). I have also corresponded with Southwark County Council who advised that a George Shand who was 78 is buried in a Paupers grave in Nunhead Cemetery.
John Shand
PRShand on 2013-04-10 19:18:37Hi John
You can see from the following information on Nunhead Cemetery that George Long Shand purchased the first plot in 1840. I'm currently out of the UK, back in early May & I have a list at home who is buried in the family grave & I'm surprised that his Father was buried in a Paupers grave.
May I ask who was your GR,Gr Grandfather?
On Rocque's map of 1746 the future site of Nunhead Cemetery is shown as farmland. By 1839, Nunhead Hill, a popular leisure spot near Peckham Rye affording extensive views over London, had been purchased by the London Cemetery Company.
In 1836, three years after the successful opening of All Souls Kensal Green (qv) by the General Cemetery Company, a new company, the London Cemetery Company, was founded. An Act of Parliament passed in the same year empowered the Company to construct three cemeteries not exceeding 61ha. The first of these, Highgate Cemetery (qv), was consecrated in 1839. This, like Kensal Green, proved a great success and subsequently a larger cemetery was proposed for south London. In 1840, three years before J C Loudon published The Laying Out, Planting, and Managing of Cemeteries and the Improvement of Church Yards, James Bunstone Bunning designed a layout for a cemetery on the Nunhead Hill site. Bunning, surveyor for the London Cemetery Company, had previously worked with Stephen Geary on the design of Highgate Cemetery. All Saints Nunhead was consecrated in 1840, and in the same year the first plot was sold to GEORGE LONG SHAND, a sail maker from Bermondsey. A plan of 1844 (Little) shows the layout as constructed, the serpentine nature of Bunning's design fully exploiting the hilly nature of the site.
Regards
Peter Shand
shandyman on 2013-04-13 02:45:08Hi Peter
Thank you for this.
My Gr Gr Grandfather was Henry Cox Shand, one of George Long Shand's brothers. I too was surprised, given GLS's standing in the community, that his father was buried in a paupers grave. Sally Long (3 x Gr Grandmother) is also buried at Nunhead cemetery and I will now contact Southwark CC regarding her burial site.
I would be interested in knowing who is buried in the family grave and I have sent you a message giving my email address if you would prefer to continue this conversation privately. If not then just respond vis this post.
Regards
John Shand