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Looking for info on John Jones of Langhornes Creek, South Australia.

Query by Thegrumpyone

G'day my name is Shane Jones
In researching my Jones's I hit a wall at John Jones born in Bletchly England about 1829 when in Australia he married Mary Hooper in 1868. Have been brought to the realization that I was researching the wrong Jones. A big thank you to Tonkin for his enlightenment. Now have more names to research in relation to my relations the new names are: Jones, Johnson, Hargreaves, Lyon/s, Ferris, Boxer.

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by tonkin on 2015-07-08 04:00:03

Welcome to familytreecircles Shane.

Lets start with the marriage details for John and Mary to put other members in the picture.

Groom: John JONES.
Age: 30 years.
Status: Not recorded.
Father: Joseph JONES.

Bride: Mary HOOPER.
Age: 30 years.
Status: Not recorded.
Father: Jacob HOOPER.

Date married: 12 July 1864.
Place: Residence of Jacob HOOPER, Langhorne Creek, South Australia.

Ref: Registry of Marriages, South Australia. Book 59. Page 320.

Now tell us about your brick wall. Someone may have a hammer.

by Thegrumpyone on 2015-07-08 05:08:43

G'day tonkin my brick wall is that I know a bit the line down from Hooper but know little of the Jones line, George hooper Jones (son of John and Mary) is my Great grandfather so I have marginal knowledge my line and know very very little of Johns sons Thomas, John, and Samuel am aware that the first born John died at 4 months.

by tonkin on 2015-07-08 22:04:06

Had a look at the births and deaths and found five children for John and Mary in South Australia.

1.
Thomas JONES.
Born: 18 January 1863, Langhornes Creek, South Australia.
Died: -

2.
John JONES.
Born: 27 April 1865, Langhornes Creek, South Australia.
Died: 24 August 1865, Langhornes Creek, South Australia.
Age: 04 months.

3.
Samuel JONES.
Born: 09 August 1966, Langhornes Creek, South Australia.
Died: 23 December 1867. Langhornes Creek, South Australia.
Age: 04 months.

4.
John JONES.
Born: 13 October 1868, Bremerton, South Australia.
Died: 24 October 1868, Bremerton, South Australia.
Age: 12 days.

5.
George Hooper JONES. *
Born: 04 March 1870, Langhornes Creek, South Australia.
Died: 11 March 1870, Langhornes Creek, South Australia.
Age: 01 week.

*
I'm a bit confused here because you said George Hooper JONES was your Great Grandfather, so maybe John and Mary had another son with the given names of George Hooper. If they did I'm unable to locate his birth in South Australia.

If you can give me the 'birth & marriage' details you have for your George Hooper JONES it will point me in the right direction for more searches.

by Thegrumpyone on 2015-07-11 00:50:59

G'day Tonkin,
Your a bit confused, My records little as the as they are say that George Hooper Jones was Born 04 March 1870, Died 25 June 1950, Married ? ? 1950,

1
Charles Fred Jones
Born 1891 in Armadale Victoria,
Died 1971

2
Isabella Elizabeth Jones
Born 1893 Brunswick Victoria
Died ?

3
Dorothy Veda Jones
Born 1895 Brunswick Victoria
Died 1978

4
Rose Winifred Jones
Born 1898 Brunswick Victoria
Died ?

5
Francis Violet Jones
Born 1900 Brunswick Victoria
Died ?

6
George William Jones (My Grandfather)
Born 03 JUNE 1902 Coburg Victoria
Died 1987

7
Arthur Edward Jones
Born 17 March 1905 Coburg Victoria
Died 1968

8
Walter James Jones
Born 1902 Coburg Victoria
Died 1977

As my family was distant toward each other for reasons that are unknown to me except to say that i think my Grandmother had something to do with that.

Also I have found a curios co-incidence in that there girl born in S.A. that is remarkably similar to number 3 on my list: 1897 JONES Dorothy Vida John JONES Emma CARR Talunga 609/121,

Have seen somewhere that a Tonkin married a Jones from S.A. as I can not find it again I can not verify.
Many Thanks, Shane Jones

by tonkin on 2015-07-11 02:03:41

MARRIAGE.

Groom: George Hooper JONES.
Birth place given as London.

Bride: Jennie HARGREAVES.
Birth place given as Melbourne South.

Year married: 1890.
Place: Victoria, Australia.

Ref: Registry of Marriages, Victoria. Reg #4423.

George and Jennie had eight children in Victoria as per your list above.

Your George Hooper JONES was born in London ... and not in South Australia so it appears you have been tracking the wrong family.

by tonkin on 2015-07-11 02:24:32

DEATH.

Name: George Hooper JONES.
Died: 1950 Prahran, Victoria.
Age: 83 years.
Father: William JONES.
Mother: Elizabeth JOHNSON.

Ref: Registry of Deaths, Victoria. Reg #13699.

If George's age at death is correct he was born circa 1867.

by Thegrumpyone on 2015-07-11 06:13:04

G'day tonkin,
My reasearch was predicated on the fact that the memorial plate that is on his ashes (wall) is 4/3/1870 and all of the Hoopers that I have had contact with that this George Hooper Jones is theres I guess they did not notice that there George Hooper Jones died at 1 week of age.

So know I am more than confused I am positively bamboozled to find that all my research is based on an untruth.

by Thegrumpyone on 2015-07-11 08:26:33

Have found a George Hooper Jones Born Camberwell England 1867 unfortunately that is all that I can see over yet another bloody brick wall I am beginning to resemble a pug.

by asheppard on 2015-07-11 20:59:48

You may have to purchase the birth certificate for George Hooper Jones b1867 Camberwell and also the marriage certificate 1890 to Jennie Hargraves to verify if it is the right person.

I also found this marriage interesting, possible coincidence, middle names sometimes have some family connections.

Marriages Mar 1860
Hooper Elizabeth St George S 1d 132
JONES William Robert St George S 1d 132

the informant on the death may have Elizabeths surname wrong, but you will need to get hold of George Hoopers marriage to find more details.

by janilye on 2015-07-11 22:02:41

The Argus, Saturday 21 October 1950
JONES.- On October 18 at Prahran
George Hooper, loved father of Charles,
Isabella, Dorothy, Winifred, Frances,
George, Arthur and Walter. AT REST

by Thegrumpyone on 2015-07-12 03:38:11

It is good to see that I have a sheppard looking out for me. I now have the marriage cert for George Hooper Jones and Jennie Hargreaves. On the cert it clearly states (as clearly as writing got in the 1890's) that George Hooper Jones's mother was Elizabeth Jones (nee) JOHNSON.

Also thank you to Janilye for the Argus death notice

by asheppard on 2015-07-12 18:54:01

Does the marriage give any indication as to Williams occupation??

by Thegrumpyone on 2015-07-12 21:15:55

Yes according to the marriage certificate dated 21/05/1890. George's address was given as Moor street Fitzroy and William's occupation was given as an Agent.

by ladyfirey on 2017-05-21 11:55:08

Hi Shane, was wondering if you could help me with some information regarding George William Jones? If this is the one that married Jessie Emily (Ferris), then he is also my husbands grandfather. He was born Stephen Leslie Jones but his name was changed by deed poll when he was young (to Cameron). He is trying to track down the son of George and and Jessie, William Leslie, (his dad),as he hasn't seen him in over 40 years. We last had contact about 20 years ago when we tracked him down in QLD and I wrote to him but unfortunately we lost contact. As it is though, you and Stephen might be related in some way and it would be great if you could get in touch as he would love to know more about this side of his family. If you would like to follow up I can be contacted at lady_firey_2000@yahoo.com.au and we can go from there! Cheers, Lisa.

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