You do not give any details for Ollie ie maiden name date of birth and where so is this your family before George's death in 1925?
1920 United States Federal Census Name: George Webb Age: 27 Birth Year: abt 1893 Birthplace: Tennessee Home in 1920: Sardis, Cocke, Tennessee Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Ollie Webb Father's Birthplace: Tennessee Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee Home Owned: Rent Able to Read: No Able to Write: No
George Webb 27 Ollie Webb 22 Edward Webb 5 [5 9/12] Earl Webb 3 [3 6/12] Anna B Webb 1 [1 8/12]
Yes Noggin, that is my grandmother and grandfather.She was born in 1897 and he was born in 1891.Her Mother was Mary Etta Sherland,Sherlin,or Sherlon,They were both living in the Home of James A. Webb when the 1910 census was taken,but the info was put down wrong I believe, They have James A, down as James J, They have Mary Etta as just Etta and they have Ollie L. surname as Sherley. I did find a Mary Etta Sherlin and an Ollie living in Henry Sherlins' home in North Carolina during the 1900 census and Ollie was 3 years of age and was listed as his granddaughter.According to what I have discovered Mary Etta was Born in NC. I would really like to find out who was Ollies' father and Who she married after my grandfather died. I heard from my father a long time ago that she had remarried and was living in SC.I believe she had a couple more children. Also she had 2 more children with George,Harding my father and Maud.hope this helps you.
1910 United States Federal Census Name: Ollie L Sherley [Ollie L Shirley] Age in 1910: 13 Birth Year: abt 1897 [1897] Birthplace: Tennessee Home in 1910: Civil District 4, Cocke, Tennessee Race: White Gender: Female Relation to Head of House: Step Daughter Marital Status: Single Father's Birthplace: North Carolina Mother's Name: Etta Webb Mother's Birthplace: North Carolina
James J Webb 47 Etta Webb 37 George W Webb 17 ** Samuel Webb 14 Sallie Webb 13 Lucindia Webb 8 Andrew Webb 7 Ida Webb 5 Rosa Webb 1 [1 4/12] Ollie L Sherley 13
OK I think I am getting the picture.
Ollie L Sherley is the Daugther of ........ Sherley (Sherland) and Mary Etta ......... Both born in NC.
Ollie went on to marry ** George W Webb son of James J (A) Webb and..... ........
So we are looking for a marriage of Mary Etta to ....... Sherland
1880 United States Federal Census Name: Henry Shirlin Age: 46 Birth Year: abt 1834 Birthplace: North Carolina Home in 1880: Marion, McDowell, North Carolina Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Self (Head) Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Jane E. Shirlin Father's Birthplace: North Carolina Mother's Birthplace: North Carolina Occupation: Farmer Cannot read/write:
Henry Shirlin 46 Jane E. Shirlin 43 John H. Shirlin 24 Thos. J. Shirlin 20 Cyntha E. Shirlin 14 Mary E. Shirlin 11 Anna L. Shirlin 8 Bird Shirlin 6
This looks like the same family in 1870. Mothers name as changed Jane E to Betsey so Henry may have remarried or it is her middle name (Elizabeth ?) Spelling of surname is spelt different again. It looks like Hydin Sherling is Mary/Etta's Grandfather.
1870 United States Federal Census Name: Hydin Sherling Age in 1870: 75 Birth Year: abt 1795 Birthplace: North Carolina Home in 1870: Marion, McDowell, North Carolina Race: White Gender: Male Post Office: Marion
Henry Sherling 36 Betsey Sherling 30 Hydin Sherling 75 James Sherling 13 Thomas Sherling 11 Evaline Sherling 9 Etta Sherling 3
1900 United States Federal Census Name: Henry Sherlin Age: 65 Birth Date: Sep 1834 Birthplace: North Carolina Home in 1900: Silver Creek, Burke, North Carolina [Burke] Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Jane E Sherlin Marriage Year: 1854 Years Married: 46 Father's Birthplace: North Carolina Mother's Birthplace: North Carolina
Henry Sherlin 65 Jane E Sherlin 64 Thomas Sherlin 38 Mary Sherlin 28 Birdie Sherlin 24 Ollie Sherlin 3
1860 United States Federal Census Name: Henry Sherlin Age in 1860: 26 Birth Year: abt 1834 Birthplace: North Carolina Home in 1860: McDowell, North Carolina Gender: Male Post Office: Marion Value of real estate: View image Household Members: Name Age Henry Sherlin 26 Jane Sherlin 23 John Sherlin 5 Jane M Sherlin 3 Thomas Sherlin 3/12
I found this census that looks like the right family but who does that make Hydin Sherling in the 1870 census unless he is a brother to Hydin Sherling.
1850 United States Federal Census Name: Bird Shirlen Age: 45 Birth Year: abt 1805 Birthplace: Georgia Home in 1850: McDowell, North Carolina Gender: Male Family Number: 228
Hydin Sherling 45 Hetty Shirlen 45 Henry Shirlen 16 Nancey Shirlen 12 John Shirlen 9
You have plenty to double check now so I will not search any further for now.
There is a mistake in the above: I found this census that looks like the right family but who does that make Hydin Sherling in the 1870 census unless he is a brother to Bird Sherling.
Hydin Sherling 45 should read Bird Sherling 45 Hetty Shirlen 45 Henry Shirlen 16 Nancey Shirlen 12 John Shirlen 9
Thanks noggin, I believe that Henry Sherlins father was Byrd Sherlin sometimes spelled Bird Sherlen. I think the problem is that the spelling of the names depended on the census taker as some or most of these people could not read or write. It looks like I might never discover who Ollies father really was and as a result part of my ancestry will always be missing. As far as the other grandmother Carrie Bell Kieffer on my mothers side, looks like I'm having the same problem.I can not discover the correct spelling of her last name. Could be Werner, Verner, Wagner, Warner,Wager,or Waggoner. Wish me luck,and thanks for your help.--Bev
You do not give any details for Ollie ie maiden name date of birth and where so is this your family before George's death in 1925?
1920 United States Federal Census
Name: George Webb
Age: 27
Birth Year: abt 1893
Birthplace: Tennessee
Home in 1920: Sardis, Cocke, Tennessee
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Ollie Webb
Father's Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee
Home Owned: Rent
Able to Read: No
Able to Write: No
George Webb 27
Ollie Webb 22
Edward Webb 5 [5 9/12]
Earl Webb 3 [3 6/12]
Anna B Webb 1 [1 8/12]
This looks like George and Ollie's marriage:
G.W. Webb, "Tennessee, Marriages, 1796-1950"
groom's name: G.W. Webb
bride's name: O.L. Sherland
marriage date: 10 Aug 1912
marriage place: Cocke, Tennessee
indexing project (batch) number: I03286-2
system origin: Tennessee-EASy
source film number: 1928644
reference number: pg 37
Yes Noggin, that is my grandmother and grandfather.She was born in 1897 and he was born in 1891.Her Mother was Mary Etta Sherland,Sherlin,or Sherlon,They were both living in the Home of James A. Webb when the 1910 census was taken,but the info was put down wrong I believe, They have James A, down as James J, They have Mary Etta as just Etta and they have Ollie L. surname as Sherley. I did find a Mary Etta Sherlin and an Ollie living in Henry Sherlins' home in North Carolina during the 1900 census and Ollie was 3 years of age and was listed as his granddaughter.According to what I have discovered Mary Etta was Born in NC. I would really like to find out who was
Ollies' father and Who she married after my grandfather died. I heard from my father a long time ago that she had remarried and was living in SC.I believe she had a couple more children. Also she had 2 more children with George,Harding my father and Maud.hope this helps you.
1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Ollie L Sherley
[Ollie L Shirley]
Age in 1910: 13
Birth Year: abt 1897 [1897]
Birthplace: Tennessee
Home in 1910: Civil District 4, Cocke, Tennessee
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Step Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: North Carolina
Mother's Name: Etta Webb
Mother's Birthplace: North Carolina
James J Webb 47
Etta Webb 37
George W Webb 17 **
Samuel Webb 14
Sallie Webb 13
Lucindia Webb 8
Andrew Webb 7
Ida Webb 5
Rosa Webb 1
[1 4/12]
Ollie L Sherley 13
OK I think I am getting the picture.
Ollie L Sherley is the Daugther of ........ Sherley (Sherland) and Mary Etta ......... Both born in NC.
Ollie went on to marry ** George W Webb son of James J (A) Webb and..... ........
So we are looking for a marriage of Mary Etta to ....... Sherland
OK I think I have solved one part of the puzzle:
Tennessee, Death Records, 1908-1958
Name: Mary Etta Webb [Mary Etta Sherlin]
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 29 Apr 1868
Birth Place: North Carolina (Marion)
Age: 85
Death Date: 27 Jun 1953
Death Place: Newport, Cocke, Tennessee (Crosby Road)
Father's Name: Henry Sherlin (mother unknown)
Certificate Number: 53-19834
Listed as Widowed. Housewife/Domestic
Informant: Mark Webb, Newport Tennessee
Funeral Directors:
Maloy Funeral Home, Newport Tenn.
Burial 28 June 1953 Dunn Cemetery
By reading the above it would appear Mary was not married at the time of Ollie's birth. It states her father was Henry Sherlin but mother unknown.
This looks like the right family
1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Henry Shirlin
Age: 46
Birth Year: abt 1834
Birthplace: North Carolina
Home in 1880: Marion, McDowell, North Carolina
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Jane E. Shirlin
Father's Birthplace: North Carolina
Mother's Birthplace: North Carolina
Occupation: Farmer
Cannot read/write:
Henry Shirlin 46
Jane E. Shirlin 43
John H. Shirlin 24
Thos. J. Shirlin 20
Cyntha E. Shirlin 14
Mary E. Shirlin 11
Anna L. Shirlin 8
Bird Shirlin 6
This looks like the same family in 1870. Mothers name as changed Jane E to Betsey so Henry may have remarried or it is her middle name (Elizabeth ?) Spelling of surname is spelt different again. It looks like Hydin Sherling is Mary/Etta's Grandfather.
1870 United States Federal Census
Name: Hydin Sherling
Age in 1870: 75
Birth Year: abt 1795
Birthplace: North Carolina
Home in 1870: Marion, McDowell, North Carolina
Race: White
Gender: Male
Post Office: Marion
Henry Sherling 36
Betsey Sherling 30
Hydin Sherling 75
James Sherling 13
Thomas Sherling 11
Evaline Sherling 9
Etta Sherling 3
1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Henry Sherlin
Age: 65
Birth Date: Sep 1834
Birthplace: North Carolina
Home in 1900: Silver Creek, Burke, North Carolina
[Burke]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Jane E Sherlin
Marriage Year: 1854
Years Married: 46
Father's Birthplace: North Carolina
Mother's Birthplace: North Carolina
Henry Sherlin 65
Jane E Sherlin 64
Thomas Sherlin 38
Mary Sherlin 28
Birdie Sherlin 24
Ollie Sherlin 3
1860 United States Federal Census
Name: Henry Sherlin
Age in 1860: 26
Birth Year: abt 1834
Birthplace: North Carolina
Home in 1860: McDowell, North Carolina
Gender: Male
Post Office: Marion
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Sherlin 26
Jane Sherlin 23
John Sherlin 5
Jane M Sherlin 3
Thomas Sherlin 3/12
I found this census that looks like the right family but who does that make Hydin Sherling in the 1870 census unless he is a brother to Hydin Sherling.
1850 United States Federal Census
Name: Bird Shirlen
Age: 45
Birth Year: abt 1805
Birthplace: Georgia
Home in 1850: McDowell, North Carolina
Gender: Male
Family Number: 228
Hydin Sherling 45
Hetty Shirlen 45
Henry Shirlen 16
Nancey Shirlen 12
John Shirlen 9
You have plenty to double check now so I will not search any further for now.
There is a mistake in the above: I found this census that looks like the right family but who does that make Hydin Sherling in the 1870 census unless he is a brother to Bird Sherling.
Hydin Sherling 45 should read Bird Sherling 45
Hetty Shirlen 45
Henry Shirlen 16
Nancey Shirlen 12
John Shirlen 9
Thanks noggin, I believe that Henry Sherlins father was Byrd Sherlin sometimes spelled Bird Sherlen. I think the problem is that the spelling of the names depended on the census taker as some or most of these people could not read or write. It looks like I might never discover who Ollies father really was and as a result part of my ancestry will always be missing. As far as the other grandmother Carrie Bell Kieffer on my mothers side, looks like I'm having the same problem.I can not discover the correct spelling of her last name. Could be Werner, Verner, Wagner, Warner,Wager,or Waggoner. Wish me luck,and thanks for your help.--Bev