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Looking for John and Elizabeth McGovern (nee Renwick). I am told the place is County Cork, Ireland.

Question by popsit

Both these people came out to Australia/New Zealand some time in the 1800's.I have details on one of their sons who says he was born in Australia, Geelong, Victoria. However I have searched and someone in Australia who is more clued up than me did search also and found absolutely nothing. Four of their children came to NZ and four stayed in Australia. I have death and marriage certs for one of the sons who came to NZ. Both say he was born in the area above.I have a couple of days ago been on this site and found a lady who is researching the same people and was asking for help. I sent her a private message with my email. Her query was back in 2013.Her name is Heather Guptill. I am looking for any info on passenger lists for these people when they came over. John was a miner so he probably came to the goldfields in either country
I am looking for any children they may have had born in Ireland, any certs at all on these two. Apparently I have been told that the son(James) was born at sea. Any help really much appreciated. Thank you.

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on 2018-08-29 00:55:55

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by ScotNZ on 2018-08-29 12:15:03

What area of NZ do you believe they settled?

by popsit on 2018-08-29 21:32:11

I don't know which port they landed in but they ended up in the Manawatu/Whanganui/area.James, (the son I am following) was married in Castlepoint which is in the Whanganui area.James died in Hunterville. It is believed his horse had stumbled and rolled on him. I also have a pic. of his headstone along with his wifes who is beside him. If I can give you a bit more detail. James was born 1862/3, he says in Geelong, vic. He says on his marriage cert that he was 23 years old when he married. On his death cert it says he was in NZ 40/1 years. My calculations, 23 added to his birth date is 1885 which is when he married. So far so good. Taking 23 from 1885 is back to his birth date so did he come with his parents to NZ and if as I have been led to believe he was born at sea did his parents even go to Australia as we have goldfields here as well.He died 1904.His parents were John and Elizabeth McGovern nee Renwick.Its possible his parents did stop off in Australia before coming to NZ with James still being a baby.But if I went with this theory then the four who stayed in Australia must have been the eldest ones and over a certain age to be able to leave them there.I think James was one of the youngest ones. Apparently they were from County Cork in Ireland, I cant even find them there. Apologies if you have no hair left having pulled it all out lol. That's genealogy isn't it and I love it.If I have left any info out please ask for more. Thank you for your reply.


by popsit on 2018-08-30 00:30:05

I hope this is the right place for me to pass on a further bit of info. I received this morning from the archives the military enlistment records of James Francis McGovern. This James was the son of the man I was asking about above.This James"s parents were James and Mary McGovern nee Carr. This James says he was born in Blenheim which means when I said in my info above that I didn't know what port they arrived at, it has to be Blenheim in the south island. So going on that did James (married to Mary) come on his own with three siblings and/or did his parents john and Elizabeth come too. I have three children belonging to James and Mary, they were:
Owen John
Joseph Patrick
William Micheal
James Francis

there could be more as on his obituary it says he had a large family. I think that the four above were also born in Blenheim. What I have said above still goes but now I think I am right in thinking they landed in the south island and not the north island.


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