Thank you Tonkin. Mary Ann Wilson was my Great-Great-Grandmother. As far as I can make out, when they married, she had been a widow for more than 10 years, and was 71years old. Does this sound right to you? What happened to Josiah? Are you related to them? Regards, sulphercrest.
I'm not related and just trying to give you a helping hand. It's a bad habit I have.
The best way to obtain a few more details to assist with your research would be to obtain the marriage certificate for Josiah and Mary. This will give your their ages, parents names, places of birth, their status when married and a few more details.
If Mary was 71 and a widow when she married Josiah it explains why I did not locate any children for them. I also expect Josiah was a widower when he married Mary.
Will have a look at the death records for Josiah.
Mary's death details would also help if you have them.
Thank you again. Actually I do have the death cert, and it was the proximity of the two dates that caught my attention, as did the note that she had died of dementia. I have been looking for the marriage cert., without success, but now that I have the right spelling will try again. Again, thank you so much for your help.
This Josiah ROBERTS is worth looking at. He was two years older than Mary so may be the one you seek. This is the best I can do without knowing his birth year.
I've run across Josiah Roberts on the rolls before, he was a butcher in North Melbourne. Is it him or Joshua you want? 'spose you don't know. I'll look for whichever one is partnered with a Mary Ann Marian.
Thank you both so much. I will follow up all these leads. It surprises me just how hooked I can get at following up these threads, but it is the details that turn ancestors into real people.
I updated an old journal today for Richard Matthew WILSON and Mary Ann BENNETT. I have not found a marriage for them but they did have ten children born in Richmond and Port Melbourne between 1865 and 1882.
This Mary Ann BENNETT was also recorded as Marian BENNETT. Her husband Richard Matthew WILSON died in 1905 aged 66 years. Going by your information I think this may be your Mary Ann BENNETT who remarried in 1917 to Josiah ROBERTS.
Okay here's the goods on Josiah Roberts who died in 1924 death registered in Heathcote. Josiah ROBERTS the son of JOHN ROBERTS and ELEANOR HODGE was born in Halabezach, Cornwall, England in 1843. He married Elizabeth Ann Treloar 1846-1915 at St. Michael, Helston, Cornwall, England on the 11 April 1867. Immigration was about 1867 . Josiah's occupation was Miner. These are their children:- Ellen Jane Roberts 1868 –BORN AT SEA John Henry Roberts 1870 – 1911 BORN, Sebastapol near Ballarat Josiah Roberts 1871 – 1955 Born Sebastapol DIED in Brunswick Elizabeth Ann Roberts 1873 – 1873 Samuel Roberts 1874 – 1912 James Roberts 1877 – 1877 Susan Ann Roberts 1879 – 1944 Elizabeth Maria Roberts 1880 – 1915 William Thomas Roberts 1882 – 1908 Louisa Roberts 1884 – 1948 Emily Roberts 1886 – 1902 Basil Percival Roberts 1889 – 1973
Josiah died at Costerfield on 11 August 1924 and was buried the next day at the Heathcote Cemetery.
Heathcote Cemetery Trust Mr F Miller Secretary PO Box 75 Heathcote 3525 PHONE: 03 5433 2850 Wife Elizabeth Ann ROBERTS, nee TRELOAR DIED 1 July 1915 in Clunes, Victoria of Cerebral Hemorrhage. she was buried in Clunes.
Only a marriage certificate will prove he went on to marry Mary Ann Wilson, nee Bennett 1845-1918
Welcome RobinR.
This may be the marriage for you Joshua, recorded as Josiah.
Groom: Josiah ROBERTS.
Bride: Mary Ann WILSON.
Year married: 1917.
Place: Victoria.
Ref: Registry of Marriages, Victoria. Reg #1408.
Thank you Tonkin.
Mary Ann Wilson was my Great-Great-Grandmother.
As far as I can make out, when they married, she had been a widow for more than 10 years, and was 71years old. Does this sound right to you?
What happened to Josiah?
Are you related to them?
Regards, sulphercrest.
I'm not related and just trying to give you a helping hand.
It's a bad habit I have.
The best way to obtain a few more details to assist with your research would be to obtain the marriage certificate for Josiah and Mary. This will give your their ages, parents names, places of birth, their status when married and a few more details.
If Mary was 71 and a widow when she married Josiah it explains why I did not locate any children for them. I also expect Josiah was a widower when he married Mary.
Will have a look at the death records for Josiah.
Mary's death details would also help if you have them.
DEATH.
Name: Mary Ann ROBERTS.
Died: 1918 Malvern East, Victoria.
Age: 72 years.
Father: unknown BENNETT.
Mother: unknown.
Ref: Registry of Deaths, Victoria. Reg #13536.
If this is Mary's death she died the year after she married Josiah.
Thank you again.
Actually I do have the death cert, and it was the proximity of the two dates that caught my attention, as did the note that she had died of dementia.
I have been looking for the marriage cert., without success, but now that I have the right spelling will try again.
Again, thank you so much for your help.
DEATH.
Name: Josiah ROBERTS.
Died: 1924 Heathcote, Victoria.
Age: 80 years.
Father: unknown.
Mother: Eleanor unknown
Ref: Registry of Deaths, Victoria. Reg # 10152.
This Josiah ROBERTS is worth looking at. He was two years older than Mary so may be the one you seek. This is the best I can do without knowing his birth year.
I've run across Josiah Roberts on the rolls before, he was a butcher in North Melbourne. Is it him or Joshua you want? 'spose you don't know. I'll look for whichever one is partnered with a Mary Ann Marian.
Thank you both so much.
I will follow up all these leads.
It surprises me just how hooked I can get at following up these threads, but it is the details that turn ancestors into real people.
NOT Josiah Roberts, The butcher in North Melbourne, his wife was 'Lucy'
I updated an old journal today for Richard Matthew WILSON and Mary Ann BENNETT. I have not found a marriage for them but they did have ten children born in Richmond and Port Melbourne between 1865 and 1882.
This Mary Ann BENNETT was also recorded as Marian BENNETT. Her husband Richard Matthew WILSON died in 1905 aged 66 years. Going by your information I think this may be your Mary Ann BENNETT who remarried in 1917 to Josiah ROBERTS.
That's the right one Tonkin; They married in Tasmania 7 August 1864
Groom: Richard Matthew WILSON.
Age: 25 years.
Bride: Marian BENNETT.
Age: 19 years.
Date married: 07 August 1864.
Place: Tasmania.
Thanks Janilye.
I have a few WILSON marriages for Tasmania but never looked.
Okay here's the goods on Josiah Roberts who died in 1924 death registered in Heathcote.
Josiah ROBERTS the son of JOHN ROBERTS and ELEANOR HODGE was born in Halabezach, Cornwall, England in 1843. He married Elizabeth Ann Treloar 1846-1915
at St. Michael, Helston, Cornwall, England on the 11 April 1867.
Immigration was about 1867 . Josiah's occupation was Miner.
These are their children:-
Ellen Jane Roberts 1868 –BORN AT SEA
John Henry Roberts 1870 – 1911 BORN, Sebastapol near Ballarat
Josiah Roberts 1871 – 1955 Born Sebastapol DIED in Brunswick
Elizabeth Ann Roberts 1873 – 1873
Samuel Roberts 1874 – 1912
James Roberts 1877 – 1877
Susan Ann Roberts 1879 – 1944
Elizabeth Maria Roberts 1880 – 1915
William Thomas Roberts 1882 – 1908
Louisa Roberts 1884 – 1948
Emily Roberts 1886 – 1902
Basil Percival Roberts 1889 – 1973
Josiah died at Costerfield on 11 August 1924 and was buried the next day at the Heathcote Cemetery.
Heathcote Cemetery Trust
Mr F Miller
Secretary
PO Box 75
Heathcote 3525
PHONE: 03 5433 2850
Wife Elizabeth Ann ROBERTS, nee TRELOAR DIED 1 July 1915 in Clunes, Victoria
of Cerebral Hemorrhage. she was buried in Clunes.
Only a marriage certificate will prove he went on to marry Mary Ann Wilson, nee Bennett 1845-1918
The butcher in North Melbourne 'Josiah' I mentioned earlier is his son ;Josiah Roberts 1871-1955 m. Lucy Fletcher, nee Hose.1867-1954.