Dear gogilvie,

Birth, Death & Marriage - Historical Records of New Zealand

Joseph FISHWICK married Mary McCLOUGHLEN in 1887 (marriage registration no.1887/2057).

Mary FISHWICK died in 1887 (death registration no.1887/4106) aged 53 years (born C1834).

There are two death records for people named Joseph FISHWICK in New Zealand - in 1948 aged 80 years (born 1868) and in 1910 aged 83 years (born 1827).

I couldn't see anything in the National Archives of Australia website for MCCLOUGHEN, MCCLOUGHLEN or indeed in the Papers Past NZ website.

I highly recommend purchasing whatever bdm records that can be found and then work backwards from there.

There's an Individual Genealogical Index at FamilySearch on Joseph FISHWICK with him dying in 1887 at Hokitike married to Mary McLOUGHLIN born abt 1832 Birr County, Offaly, Ireland died 1887. Strangely there is also a son listed Joseph FISHWICK junior born 1868.

To get into Ireland research, you can't go past free site RootsChat register as a new user, then find their Ireland board and then find the relevant county childboard and post a lookup request.

Editor.

Dear allycat,
Thanks for your response. I have the marriage certificate, McCloughen is spelled three different ways on on it but she signs it McCloughen. McCloughten and McCloughlen and McLoughlin seem to be the most common variations. I also have the inquest of her drowning. She seems to have been accepted as Mrs Fishwick well before her marriage and I suspect most if not all the five Fishwick children were hers and most if not all with Joseph. Why they got married so late in their relationship is a mystery. I even think they were the couple recorded as Joseph Fisherwick and Mary Fishman who arrived in Dunedin from Melbourne on the "Jane"in 1862.
Joseph senior (b Whitby 1823) definitely died in Hokitika in 1910. The son Joseph died aged 80 in 1948.
Thanks for pointing out the individual Family Search source as it was new to me. However it is in error on Joseph's 1887 death date. That was the year of his marriage and of his wife's death.
Thanks also for the Ireland RootsChat advice. I was not aware of that and have several Irish lines I could pursue as well as the elusive McCloughen one.
Thanks again.
gogilvie

You're welcome. Make sure you check out the genforums, there is usually one for each surname out there.

McLoughlin Family Genealogy Forum

State Records NSW Australia

I also did a quick keyname search for MCCLOUGHEN, MCCLOUGHTEN, MCCLOUGHLEN ... Nil and then I searched for MCLOUGHLIN and came up with a whole page of data. If you'd like to do the search also you could go through all the individual information.

Sometimes emigrants arrived in the Colony of New South Wales, Australia and then they went onto New Zealand. Others arrived at the Port of Victoria.

Maybe Mary was a convict or was an indentured servant and couldn't marry til she was released? Just a few thoughts...

Assisted Immigrants 83
Assisted immigrants arriving at Moreton Bay-Brisbane, 1848-59 6
Assisted immigrants arriving at Port Phillip, 1839-51 5
Assisted immigrants arriving in Sydney & Newcastle, 1844-59 24
Assisted immigrants arriving in Sydney, 1860-79 28
Assisted immigrants arriving in Sydney, 1880-96 20
Bankruptcy Index 3
Convict Bank Warrants, 1837-70 2
Court of Civil Jurisdiction index 1
Deceased Estates 4
Divorce Index 5
Index to 1841 Census 1
Index to Certificates of Freedom 23
Index to Convict Pardons 4
Index to Deposition Registers 4
Index to Gaol Photographs 5
Index to Intestate Estate Case Papers 4
Index to Miscellaneous Immigrants 6
Index to Persons on Government ships Aug 1837-Feb 1840 1
Index to the Unassisted Arrivals NSW 1842-1855 2
Insolvency Index 4
Registers of Police 2
Ticket of Leave Passports 1

IGI is very useful at FamilySearch.org but naturally does contain some errors.

Have you also searched for your ancestors in family trees online like: GenesReunited, GeneaNet, TribalPages, GenCircles, RootsWeb, etc.?

Or have you thought about putting your family tree online so that some of your distant cousins who are descendants of the same set of ancestors as yourself can find you? Try TribalPages as a good starting point - free site that you can upgrade $ later on to do such things as remove adds/banners from your site, have the ability to upload more photographs and data, etc.

Editor.

Hello gogilvie,
This is a family tree for Joseph and Mary Fishwick but not much info on her unfortunately
- just in case you haven't seen it ...

JOSEPH FISHWICK

Again,

On CURIOUS FOX he is mentioned as having been in the goldfields of California and New South Wales and that he was a ships carpenter

Thanks again.
I am most grateful for the effort you are putting in on my behalf. My first experience of Familytreecircles has been very positive.
I will go to work on those sites and references you suggest.
I was aware of the information in the William Fishwick Descendants table and I suspect was the source of some of it from my researches which I circulate from time to time across a large distribution.
The Curious Fox listing is interesting. I came across it several years ago. I suspect it could be correct but could not find any hard information to confirm it. I will try again. Joseph had deserted his first wife (m 1846) leaving her behind in Sunderland, Durham by the time of the 1851 Census so it is likely he went elsewhere before New Zealand.
gogilvie