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Query by salks054

Trying to find my maternal grandmother's family. Her name was Nora Minnie Powell born in 1915 London
her Father was John Thomas Powell and he was married to Hannah (do not know maiden name)
In 1935 John Thomas Powell was a farmer
My Gran had siblings possibly 2 brothers( John Thomas/Thomas John) and 2 sisters (Winnifred and Virginia)
My Gran worked at the Claybury Mental Hospital at Woodford Bridge Essex, London

Thankyou

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by noggin on 2012-12-08 13:00:17

Are you sure your grandmother Nora was born in London ? If so why are you asking for Powell's of Wales.

In what place was your John Thomas Powell farming in 1935.

Who did Nora Minnie Powell marry ? where and when ?

These are the only Nora M Powells I could find in 1915:

POWELL Nora M Bridgend Glamorganshire 1915 Apr-May-Jun

POWELL Nora M West Derby Lancashire 1915 Oct-Nov-Dec

POWELL Nora M Leominster Herefordshire 1915 Jan-Feb-Mar

There were other Noras born 1915 but none in London.

Were her sibbling s older or younger than her?

by salks054 on 2012-12-10 04:13:11

Hi, sorry, Nora lived in London area, not born there, apologies. I don't know where John Thomas Powell (Nora's Dad)was farming. My Mom told me that it was a farm close to or on the welsh/english border and the name of the farm started with an L and that the farm still existed(in 1995). The name sounds like Lewis or Lyws or something like that.Can't find anything on the Internet relating to this. My Mom Ann Florence Warren (only child) died in 1995.
I found 2 of the above Nora's on Ancestry. The Leominster one(Maiden Name Florence), the sibling names do not tie up with what my Mom told me, I tried ordering the birth certificate from the archives for the Powell record in Bridgend (Maiden name Lewis) and the GRO advise that no such person exists at the records provided. Nora married Henry Percy Warren on the 26th October 1935 at Registry Office, Reg District Essex South Western County - Essex. She had one child (my Mom. Nora died 3rd June 1955 at "Our Chapel of Rest Brook Hospital, reg at Greenwich at the age of 40 from Leukaemia. Her siblings were possibly older than her - don't have any dates, 2 brothers and 2 sisters. Her one sister (nicknamed Ginny) was Lady Virginia Croft-Powell or Powell - Croft or something similar (as per my Dad)and she was a Lady "in her own right". Not sure what that means. John Thomas (brother) may have been born in 1905. My Mum told me before she died (in 1995) that her one uncle was a Prisoner of War of the Japanese (he survived this)and the second uncle was "blown up" I presume in WW2. She called the one John Thomas and the second uncle Thomas John. Nora's Mum's name (John Thomas the farmer's wife)was a Hannah but dont know maiden name. Have tried looking at Prisoner of War records, Military Rolls of Honour, the Gentry details, Nursing archives and running into brick wall after brick wall. I am in South Africa so not possible to get to the National Archives in person. Thankyou so much for responding to my post - really appreciated

by noggin on 2012-12-10 06:05:47

Ok think i have the family line:

John thomas Powell married Hannah -------- ? Johns Occ farmer according to 1935 marriage cert for Nora.

children:

John Thomas, Thomas John and Nora Minnie b 1915

Nora married Henry Percy Warren in 1935 and she died in 1955 in Greenwich.

They had a Child : Ann Florence Warren who died in 1995


I tried looking for a marriage between a John Thomas Powell and a wife Hannah ????. This is the only one I found.

Marriage
Name: Thomas John Powell
Registration district: North Bierley
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1902
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's name: Hannah Florence
Volume no: 9B
Page no: 393


West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
Name: Thomas John Powell
Birth Year: abt 1879
Age: 23
Marriage or Bann Date: 21 Oct 1902
Parish: Wilsden, St Matthew
Father's Name: William Powell
Spouse's Name: Hannah Florence
Spouse's Father's Name: Edward Florence

And these births:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: John T Powell
Mother's Maiden Name: Florence
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1912
Registration district: Leominster
Inferred County: Herefordshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 940

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Nora M Powell
Mother's Maiden Name: Florence
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1915
Registration district: Leominster
Inferred County: Herefordshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 927

I have not found them in the 1911 census.

by noggin on 2012-12-10 06:08:23

According to the marriage cert both Thomas and Hannah were 23.

by salks054 on 2012-12-10 07:49:14

Hi, nearly right , under children must also include the other two sisters, Winifred and Virginia. There were 5 children in total, Thomas John, John Thomas, Winifred, Virginia (who became a lady) and my Gran Nora. I also found the father John T Powell B 1878 in Eye , Herefordshire with his parents father William Powell, Mother Jane Powell, Spouse Hannah Florence married in 1902 but the children's names are wrong namely Charles Edward, Florence Elizabeth Jane, Winnifred and John Thomas, and no mention of Nora. I also sent the owner of the family tree a message and they didn't reply so I dont know - seems so close especially with Hannah's surname and my Mom's middle name the same. So frustrating that the next census will only be out in 2022. Thankyou so much for all your help so far. Would so much like to get into contact with family again. There has been no contact since 1955. Interestingly my Mum noted down that Thomas Johan had a son called Charles born she thought around 1915 but she wasn't sure but it doesnt make sense as then my Gran's brother (Thomas John) would have had a child the same year that his sister was born. Ugh !

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