Looking for Richardson Only Found on 1881 Census for Hull
Mary Richardson and her husband are on the 1881 census living with married sister Caroline Fent (now Hare) and her family. Mary is "Married" to James Richardson b Jedbrough, Scotland. He is a blacksmith. I can't find either Mary or James Richardson in any other census living anywhere. I suspect Mary (nee Fent), who married Hercules Overton (also a blacksmith) in Hull in 1867, was not married to James Richardson - but where did Mary go after 1881? Or, perhaps Mary and Hercules Overton were both lying about their surname and place of birth - but why? Incidentally, I have not found Hercules Overton on the 1881 census anywhere else although I do know about him from 1891 onwards. I would be grateful for any help to prove who they were or to trace Mary Fent/Overton/Richardson.Please let me know if you need any more details.
Is this your Fent family
1861 England
Name: Mary Fent
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Charles Fent
Mother's name: Mary Fent
Gender: Female
Where born: Beverley, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Beverley St Martin
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Fent 43,head, fishmonger b Kilnwick York
Mary Fent 50, wife, b Routh York
Mary Fent 11, daug, b Beverley York
Caroline Fent 9, daug, b Beverly York
Ann Fent 6, daug, b Beverly York
Baptism
Name: Mary Fent
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 14 Jan 1850
Baptism Place: Saint John and Saint Martin,Beverley,York,England
Father: Charles Fent
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number: 0919386-7, 0919421
Name: Ann Fent
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 29 Jan 1855
Baptism Place: Saint John and Saint Martin,Beverley,York,England
Father: Charles Fent
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number: 0919386-7, 0919421
possibly this one
Name: Martha Fent
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 30 Jan 1848
Baptism Place: Saint Mary and Saint Nicholas,Beverley,York,England
Father: Charles Fent
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number: 0919471, 0919472
This is the family in 1851 Census
Name: Charles Fent
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Fent
Gender: Male
Where born: Brigg, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Beverley St Martin
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Fent 33, Head, Ag Lab, (Note birth place)
Mary Fent 40, wife, b Routh York
Sarah Fent 7, daugh, b Leven York,
Jane Fent 5, daugh, b Brands Burton York,
Thomas Fent 4, son, b Kilnswick York
Martha Fent 3, daugh, b Beverley York
Mary Fent 1, daugh, b Beverley York
Births
Births Jun 1842
FENT Sarah Ann Skirlaugh 22 635
Births Sep 1844
Fent Jane Skirlaugh 22 629
Births Jun 1846
Fent Thomas Beverley 23 19
Births Mar 1848
FENT Martha Beverley 23 4
Births Dec 1849
FENT Mary Beverley 23 10
Births Mar 1852
Fent Caroline Beverley 9d 81
Births Mar 1855
Fent Ann Beverley 9d 92
Is this Hercules on 1871 Census
Name: Hercules Overton
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's name: James Overton
Mother's name: Susannah Overton
Gender: Male
Where born: Hindolveston, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Kingston Upon Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Household Members:
Name Age
James Overton 60, head, Blacksmith, b Narford Norfolk
Susannah Overton 59, wife, b Sparham Norfolk
Hercules Overton 25, son, married, Occ: Blacksmith Striker
James Norton Davis 11, grandson, b Hull
Is this the 1891 Census
1891 Census
Name: Hercules Overton
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Charlotte Overton
Gender: Male
Where born: Kendsemerton, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Sculcoates
Household Members:
Name Age
Hercules Overton 45
Charlotte Overton 41
George Overton 15
James Overton 12
William Overton 7
Thomas Overton 5
Selina Overton 3
Samuel Overton 1
Overton 3/12
There doesn't appear to be a marriage for Hercules to Charlotte either
Hello asheppard
Yes, it looks like you have found Mary Fent's details and Hercules Overton in 1891 with his "wife" Charlotte (Emptage). Thank you very much for all your research, it is very kind of you. My problem is that I can't find Mary or Hercules after they married in 1876 in Hull. I assume he lived with Charlotte, and had a lot of children with her, without marrying her because he was already married to Mary. James Richardson and wife Mary on 1881 census fit the bill but that seems very odd and I can't find either of them after that either.
Thanks again
There is a James Richardson on the 1891 Scotland Census inmate in Prison, born Jedbrugh Roxburghshire and a Mary Richardson living on her own married, no husband it does say husband live....... but the writing is too hard to decipher anything.
1891 Census
Name: James Richardson
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relationship: Prisoner (Institutional)
Gender: Male
Where born: Jedburgh, Roxburghshire -
Registration Number: 685/3
Registration district: Canongate
Civil Parish: Edinburgh Greenside
County: Midlothian
Address: Regent Road
Occupation: General Labourer
ED: Her Majesty's Prison
It might be him?
I found Hercules 1871 living with parents (above post) but couldn't find any trace of Mary as Fent/Overton or Richardson.
Marriages Jun 1867
FENT Mary Sculcoates 9d 269
OVERTON Hercules Sculcoates 9d 269
Hello - Yes, I saw that prison record and it could be "my" James Richardson and that would prove it is not the same person as Hercules Overton at least. I think Mary must be telling fibs about being married to James Richardson but that is probably her living with her sister Caroline Hare. I suspect she then "married" so changed her name and that is why we can't find her later. I have spent years looking for Hercules and wife Charlotte together and separately on the 1881 census but come up with nothing at all. Thank you very much for your interest and help.
Do you know what Charlotte's maiden name was??
Hello - Yes her maiden name was Emptage - she was Charlotte Messenger Emptage b Great Grimsby, Lincs. I know a lot about her and her family and I found her on all previous and post 1881 census records. There are a couple of Charlotte Emptages who appear on the 1881 census but I don't think they are my Grt Grandmother.