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Louis Agnon Numa and Charlotte Anne Lagarde and the Australian Connection updated June 8th 2008

Journal by MsMeridy

Louis Agnon Numa married Charlotte Ann Lagarde and they had one son Agnon Louis Numa who was born in 1830 in Bordeaux.

Agnon met Christiana Tolliday in Australia and they were married on 9th August 1856 in Ballarat, Victoria.

Christiana was born in 1835 in Cambridge, England. She immigrated with her two brothers, John and William and her sister Elizabeth, her husband Charles Clark and mother Jane Curtis on the sailing ship the British Empire arriving at Port Henry, Victoria in January 1855. William is the ancestor of my line here in Australia.

Christiana and Agnon had one son and called him Charles Louis Numa he was born in 1857.

Charles married his cousin Jane Martha Clark. Jane was the infant daughter of Charles Jonas and Elizabeth Clark (nee Tolliday)(see above) and she had travelled with her parents on the ship to Australia in 1855.

This means Charles married his mum's niece. He and Jane had two sons Herbert Numa born 14/7/1883 in Carlton and Charles Louis Numa (the 2nd)born 1889 in Carlton North.

Charles and Jane lived in Shakespeare Street North Carlton and then in 1933, Albion Street West Brunswick.

Charles (the 1st) was a water inspector for the MMBW he passed away in 1899 at Footscray. Burial date May 3rd 1899. His wife Jane Martha Numa passed away at Brunswick in 1933 aged 79 DRN 7419. Burial date September 1st 1933 interred at the Melbourne General Cemetery.

Herbert (1st) married Edith Evalina Drew on 16/12/1916 MRN 11007. Edith was born 15/4/1887 to Herbert A and Annie Victoria Drew. Herbert and Edith had three daughters Edith, Dorothy and Elsie and one son Herbert Leslie.

Herbert (1st) passed away at Parkville in 1958 aged 74 DRN 7358. Edith died 9/4/1982 at Templestowe DRN 08467.

The details I have on their children -

Edith Nancy born 1/10/1917 BRN 27477 in Carlton North and died July 1918 DRN 8014.

Dorothy Edna born 23/11/1918 BRN 26045 died December 1991 . She was married to John Holroyd they had three children James, Richard and Jean who are all married.

Elsie Norma born 22/3/1921 married Thomas Fricker. They had three daughters, Judy, Lorraine and Susan all married.

Herbert Leslie (2nd)known as Bert was born 22/6/1925 and died 17/4/1984 DRN 08961. He married Elaine Frances Ruck on 25/11/1952. Elaine was born 26/4/1927. They had two sons Michael David born 29/4/1956 in Box Hill and Andrew Herbert born 11/8/1959 also born at Box Hill. Andrew married Amanda Swift 23/11/1991 they have one son Remy Samuel Herbert born 1/11/1984 in Los Angeles, USA.

Charles Louis (the 2nd) married Violet Irene Cole, daughter of William and Jane Elizabeth Cole(nee Newell). Violet was born in South Melbourne in 1890. BRN 25056.

Charles passed away in Footscray aged 78 in 1966. DRN 16265. Violet passed away in 1977 aged 87 DRN 23488.

Charles (2nd) and Violet had three sons and two daughters, I think.
Phyllis Violet May born in 1908 at Ken Hill? (abbreviation)BRN 12359.
Beryl Martha born in 1911 at Brunswick BRN 9166 and died aged 3 in 1915 DRN 974.
Horace Charles Reginald born in Brunswick in 1914 BRN 10162.
Herbert Keith born in 1920 BRN 18801 and married Francis Nellie Lamont in 1942 MRN 14256.
Jack died in 1934 in Carlton DRN 2702. No birth details or age at death but it is 24 years after Beryl was born. So the details must be somewhere.

Other names of interest to be linked.
Baby Steven died in 1971 DRN 12206. He was the son of Graeme Keith and Merilyn Joy Numa(nee Rampling).
Frances Nellie Numa (nee Lamont)died in 1981 in Melbourne. DRN 09155

by MsMeridy Profile | Research | Contact | Subscribe | Block this user
on 2008-02-08 02:18:53

MsMeridy , from Goorambat, Victoria, Australia, has been a Family Tree Circles member since May 2007. is researching the following names: TOLLIDAY, CLARK, MILES and 65 other(s).

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by Tanni on 2008-06-01 08:00:23

I left a message recently about Violet irene COLE who was my grandmother. I am wondering if you did receive my message? My email address is

My name is Cherie

by MsMeridy on 2008-06-01 17:48:54

Dear Cherie,

Yes I do remember reading something from you about Irene. I just went back to check..but the msgs have been lost from the system.

I will update my journal now. I have some other dates and details that I did not enter at the time.

Is there something specific you would like to know?

Maybe I can help check things when I next go into the Family History Group.



by Tanni on 2008-06-07 04:13:17

Dear Meredith. Thank-you for your reply.
The information that I sent was regarding my Grand mother Violet Irene Cole.
You have her as coming from Scotland. She was, in fact born in Australia ( South Melbourne Victoria) on May 14th. 1890 ( reg. No. 25056)
The information about Edith Numa is indeed correct. She did die 1982 ( reg.No. 264361) Her site is at Fawkner Crematorium Victoria Aust. I will contact you at a later date when I have updated my records. I am sure there will be something you can help with Thank-you Cherie ( Tanni)

by MsMeridy on 2008-06-07 06:16:51

Dear Cherie,

I see records for BDM's on the Digger Edwardian Index for Violet Irene Cole.

It does indeed show the details you have mentioned in your comment. It shows a MRN 8113 for 1907.

I also see two daughters. Phyllis Violet May born 1908 and Beryl Martha born 1911. I will add these children to my journal.

I wrote my journal in good faith from papers sent to me by people who have collected things over the years.

So my apologies for the error.

I have been told at the Family History Group I attend that they do register people in Australia even tho they were born overseas. But I think they do note the place of birth as being either Ireland, England or whatever and a number attached through our BDM.

In this case you would know better than any of us that she was born in South Melbourne.

I will update my journal accordingly.



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