MORE PIONEERS OF BROADMEADOWS, VIC., AUST.
ANDERSON,Joseph, MACFARLANE, Walter.
(Continuation of the journal WALTER MACFARLANE AND JOSEPH ANDERSON OF BROADMEADOWS, VIC., AUST. which I tried unsuccessfully, a great many times, to submit three lines at a time in that journal,as a comment under it, and as a new journal.)
The site selected was Mornington Park,east of the Will Will Rook Cemetery, and fairly close to a mile from the point a bit east of the Johnstone St/Camp Rd overpass. Therefore I presume that the 11 mile post would have been at the intersection.
So now we need to measure another mile from that intersection to find a spot near Broadmeadows(Township) and adjoining Glenroy. We must go west to satisfy both clues. This takes us to 6 D7-8.The Glenroy Estate consisted of sections 1 and 6 of the parish of Will Will Rook, bounded by the line of Campbellfield road (Camp Rd),roughly the line of Morley St, Boundary Rd/RhodesPde/ Victoria St and the Moonee Ponds Creek.
South and west of the creek was Stewarton,section 5,Tullamarine, leased by Peter McCracken from 1846 until 1855, so while it was near the township and adjoined Glenroy, Wally's Strathoer couldn't have been there. Nor could it have been south of the line of Camp Rd ("Glengyle")as that was part of the Glenroy Estate, which Strathoer ADJOINED.
Therefore my best guess is that Strathoer was Glen Allan, between the township (Lyons St) and Pascoe Vale Rd, or the eastern part of the township, sold in 2 acre blocks as suburban allotments (rather than half acre blocks), which the crown would have withheld from sale until the building blocks were sold. In either case Wally was probably renting his farm until the lease ended.
You will notice that the rough location (6 D 7-8) satisfies all requirements, distance, near Broadmeadows, adjoining Glenroy and one more,a never-failing supply of water (from the Yuroke Creek.)
Thank you again.
My head is in a double spin now! I shall read my new 'Broadmeadows' book tonight and try to catch up with your information. I have been searching for Walter Macfarlane on TROVE -it contains lots of info about him in his role as Secretary of the Agricultural Society - there is a photo of Walter in the SLV - Early Colonist montage - this montage also includes Joseph Anderson and his son Adam Anderson. There is also a photo of Walter Macfarlane in the book 'Speed the Plough' the history of the Agricultural Society but very little about Walter himself.
I have not come across the 'Grazing for horses' advertisement and shall have a look to see if I can find it for my records.
What does the single/double asterisk mean? or is this just for your records?
Submitted the last email to you before the OK to use the information I have sent you (except J. Wright, Footscray as I do not know it this J. Wright is the same J. Wright,- Adam Anderson's partner. I do not have a local history of Footscray to check - J. Wright, Footscray do claim that they are the oldest timber merchants in Melbourne)
By the way - are you related to Alexander Gibb of Meadowbank? Alexander Gibb was one of the witnesses at the wedding of Ann Anderson to Alexander Cruickshank. It seems that Melbourne was full of builders, timber and associated yards in early Melbourne. They would have needed them when you look at the pace of buildings going up from Batman's bare paddock. Not a gold rush but a builders rush!
TO IRENE.(22 HRS. AGO.)
The asterisks indicated the source for each known fact.
I should warn you about Andrew Lemon's incorrect claim that James Robertson of Gowrie Park (south of Alexander Gibb's Meadowbank at Campbellfield) was a Keilor farmer.
James Robertson married a Coupar girl, as did Alexander's blacksmithing brother, James Gibb. (Google "the four James Robertsons, itellya".)
I am not related to Alexander Gibb or his son Alexander Coupar Gibb.
I will not write anything more about MacFarlane/ Anderson etc in my Broady Shire Farms journal but I have mentioned (in today's comment under it) that your journal is on the way.
Do you know how to find the ACCOMMODATION PADDOCK advertisement on trove searching by date? Ring me on (DELETED) if you have trouble and I'll talk you through it. (I hope I had the date and page number.)
Please do write about the Macfarlane/Anderson family. I have never written anything but thought that you had to enter a journal in FTC.
As I said, I have been researching the Carron Timber yard - to understand our Anderson family better - thought that after spending so much time searching it but do not know how long it will take me to do so, and I might as well write all the information down - a first little project for me. So please do continue with your great work. I am truly delighted to see how you research and gather historical information, so informative.
Looked up the map to see where Strathoer was situated - I assume end of Fawkner Street would be by the Moonee Ponds Creek rather than Mickeham Road end therefore address as Moonee Ponds. I have had no success in finding the ACCOMODATION PADDOCK advertisement - nothing comes up re Strathoer in TROVE other than the death notices that you have. I must not be entering the right keyword.
Also, I would like to contact family member Cairns, but do not know how to do so, if its OK can you send me email address or point me in the right direction. I have only found FTC just recently so am slowly reading the journals - so many of them - so much wonderful information - such a wonderful site!!!!!!
TO IRENE. TWO HOURS AGO. Sending Cameron's email address.
ONE HOUR AGO. Before looking for the ACCOMMODATION PADDOCK advertisement , I did a google search for walter Macfarlane, glenroy, broadmeadows and found this near the top of the 5th column on page 6 of the Argus of 28-11-1857. You will notice that STRATHOER is written as STRATHMORE.
John Williamson, Rose Hill; Sire, Neil Black's Im-
ported horse, West-horn-1st prize, gold medal.
Walter Macfarlane, Strathmore (sic); 2nd prize, silver
Dr Wilson, Summer Hill; 3rd prize, silver medal.
I entered "walter macfarlane, 1852 " on trove and got the advertisement as the second result. You will see that what I write is only a small part of my task. I might open 30 or so possible results in a night, given a summary such as the one below, spend 10 minutes or more finding the mention, which is useless, or up to half an hour correcting digitised text.
Here's the text correction.
ACCOMMODATION FOR HORSES.
Strathore (sic) Grazing Paddock, adjoining Glenroy.
One of the best grazed Paddocks in the dis-
trict, securely fenced, and a never-failing
supply of water. Distance from Melbourne 12
miles. Will be re-opened for a limited number
of Horses only on Thursday, the 21st instant,
therefore early application is necessary.
TERMS- 5s. per head per week.
All Horses to be paid for on delivery, and
none delivered on Sundays.
.Every care taken, but no responsibility.
Any horses left haltered at Kirk's Bazaar,
on Thursday's, before one o'clock, will be for
warded to the Paddock, free of expense.
12377 WALTER MACFARLANE.
Here's the summary.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Thursday 28 October 1852 p 7 Advertising
... rpHE undersigned is a purchaser ot Gold to X any amount, thu hit'lit-st price given, C. MACFARLANE, ... liurMJayV, before one o'clock, will be foi* warded lo the Paddock, fr*o of expense. 12377 s WALTER MACFARLANE.NEWLANDS. ' 1 Graz'tig Padduok?. " VIEWLANDS, odj itiing tho Tonttidge Vil l\ Inge ... 7207 words
AN AFTERTHOUGHT.(After email sent.)
Was Wally leasing part of Alexander Gibb's "Meadowbank" or James Robertson's Gowrie Park, both of which, and J.P.Fawkner's Box Forest, adjoined the eastern boundary of the Glenroy estate?
BENNETT. See WRIGHT.(check DHOTAMA)
DEATHS. PATERSON.?On the 27th ult., at Chalmers' Academy,Euroke, Mr. David Paterson, teacher, late of Trooa, Ayrshire, aged 32. (P.4,Argus,17-3-1860.)
WRIGHT-BENNETT [Golden Wedding].-On the 5th August, 1874, at the Presbyterian Manse, Essendon, by the Rev. W. Fraser, Thomas, eldest son of late John and Ann Wright, Tullamarine, to Elizabeth, second daughter of late
William and Elizabeth Bennett, of Euroke (colonists). (Present address, North Pole road, Keilor.)
(P.11, Argus, 9-8-1924.)
North Pole Rd was the original name for Milleara Rd. John Wright was probably a brother of Wallis Wright of Sunnyside in Tullamarine. Google VICTORIA ROAD HOMESTEAD, TARDIS for an archealogical survey of Charles Nash's
Fairview and Wallis Wright's Sunnyside,the latter fronting Wright St.
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Itellya is researching local history on the Mornington Peninsula and is willing to help family historians with information about the area between Somerville and Blairgowrie. He has extensive information about Henry Gomm of Somerville, Joseph Porta (Victoria's first bellows manufacturer) and Captain Adams of Rosebud.