Morris Thomas Prob Yorkshire Derbyshire

Hi

I had a look at Clara and Edward on the 1911 England census and her place of birth was shown as West Bromwich, Staffordshire abt 1882.

Searching further records for Clara born West Bromwich with father named Thomas I came up with one result in 1891 census which gave Ann Elizabeth as the wife/mother born about 1852 in Rowley, Staffordshire, England.

I could only find one marriage for a Thomas and Annie Elizabeth in Sheffield which took place in Dec 1871 and gave her maiden name as ELINORE.

However on looking for the birth of Ann Elizabeth in Rowley, Staffordshire there was only one which fitted which was in 1851 but the surname was transcribed as ELMOR.

I am able to follow Ann Elizabeth through the 1861, 71 census' but spelt as ELMORE.

Hope this helps in your research

That is really great, I'll have a look into it.

Thanks a million!

England and Wales Census, 1881
Name: Clara Morriss
Age (Original): 0
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1881
Birthplace: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Address: Davis Buildings 100 Great Bridge St
Event Place: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Record Type: Household

Thomas Morriss Head M 33 Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Ann Elizabeth Morriss Wife F 29 Tividale, Worcestershire, England
Michael Morriss Son M 7 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Ann Elizabeth Morriss Daughter F 6 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Florence Emily Morriss Daughter F 4 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
John Thomas Morriss Son M 1 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Clara Morriss Daughter F 0 West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

GS Film number: 1341682

Note spelling of surname. If Clara was age 0 she must have been born in 1880 or the first quarter of 1881.
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1891 census
Name: Clara Morris
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation: Daughter (Child)
Father's name: Thomas Morris
Mother's name: Ann Eliz Morris
Gender: Female
Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: West Bromwich
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: Great Bridge Road, West Bromwich
Occupation: (of father) Puddler Iron Works

Thomas Morris 43
Ann Eliz Morris 39
Richd Morris 17
Ann Eliz Morris 16
Florence Emily Morris 14
John Thomas Morris 11
Clara Morris 10
Lily Morris 7
William Henry Morris 6
Martha Morris 11/12
Sarah Cobb 64 ** states mother (widow), So this is either Thomas's mother who remarried. or Ann's mother who I would have thought would be listed as mother in law.
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You say Thomas was a labourer on the marriage Cert, on both these census he is a skilled craftsman, is it the same family ? was Thomas listed as deceased on the marriage cert ?

Ironmakers of the late Middle Ages also learned how to transform cast pig iron into the more useful wrought iron by oxidizing excess carbon out of the pig iron in a charcoal furnace called a finery. After 1784, pig iron was refined in a puddling furnace (developed by the Englishman Henry Cort). The puddling furnace required the stirring of the molten metal, kept separate from the charcoal fire, through an aperture by a highly skilled craftsman called a puddler; this exposed the metal evenly to the heat and combustion gases in the furnace so that the carbon could be oxidized out. As the carbon content decreases, the melting point rises, causing semi-solid bits of iron to appear in the liquid mass. The puddler would gather these in a single mass and work them under a forge hammer, and then the hot wrought iron would be run through rollers (in rolling mills) to form flat iron sheets or rails; slitting mills cut wrought iron sheets into narrow strips for making nails.

On the 1881 Census it lists Clara as under one month, so she was born in March 1881 as Census taken 3 April 1881.

This looks like it might be Clara's birth reg.

Name: Clara Morris
Registration Year: 1881
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: West Bromwich
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 826

If it is it will show both parents. I have not managed to find a baptism.

You guys are brilliant - all of this is going to be really useful.

I had a wee look over Clara's page in my notes. We seem to have her down in Mum's info (so probably from my maternal grandmother's diaries) as being a February birthday.

The differing spellings make a lot of sense too.

Thanks so much!

Sarah Cobb b 1827 on the 1891 Census is Thomas mother, I can track her back to 1851 living with her father & mother and young Thomas listed as don of Thomas & Amelia but in 1861 Thomas is listed as grandson.

1851 Census

Name: Sarah Morris
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Daughter (Child)
Father's name: Thomas Morris
Mother's name: Amelia Morris
Gender: Female
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Walsall Foreign
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Morris 56, head, b Wolverhampton Stafford, Cabinet Lock Maker
Amelia Morris 53, wife, b Santtley, Warwickshire
Sarah Morris 24, daug, Bridle Stitcher
Mary Morris 22, daug, Bridle Stitcher
Agnes Morris 10, daug, Bridle Stitcher (Age 16 not 10)
Lucy Morris 12, daug, Bridle Stitcher (age 14 not 12)
Teresa Morris 9,daug
Ann Morris 6,daug
Joseph Morris 4,son
Thomas Morris 3,son

all children born Walsall Staffordshire

Address Ryecroft Street

1861 Census

Name: Sarah Morris
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: 1827
Relation: Daughter (Child)
Father's name: Thomas Morris
Gender: Female
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Walsall Foreign
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Morris 68, head, widower, Locksmith
Sarah Morris 34, daug, Bridle Stitcher
Teresa Robinson 19, daug, Harness Stitcher
Ann Morris 15, grandaug, Bridle Stitcher
Thomas Morris 13, grandson, Carter

Address: 27 Ryecroft Street

1871 Census
Name: Sarah Morris
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Walsall

Head unmarried, Bridle Stitcher
Address: 20 Ryecroft Park

1881 Census
Name: Sarah Cobb
Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: George Cobb
Gender: Female
Where born: Warsal, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: West Retford
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: Pond House
Household Members:
Name Age
George Cobb 70, farm laborer, b Claworth Notts
Sarah Cobb 54

Marriages Dec 1873
Cobb George Sheffield 9c 508
Morris Sarah Sheffield 9c 508

Claras father Thomas in 1871 Census

Name: Thomas Morriss
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Brightside Bierlow
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Sheffield
Household Members:
Name Age
William Mobley 25. head, Puddler
Jane Mobley 23
Mary Kathrine Mobley 4
Sarah Montgomery 12
Thomas Morriss 23,boarder, Occ: Puddler

Address: Olive Street