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My grandfather who remains unknown.

Query by DKW_7

My great grandfather was Thomas Smith Williams (1855-1935) and his family resided on "Broombank" farm back in the 1900's or earlier. His daughter Florence Grace Williams(Grace)had a son Leslie John Williams (Lesley on his birth certificate) - 10/5/12. It is still unknown who his father was as my grandmother Grace never disclosed who he was. All the information that is known of this man is he was a family friend who moved to Queensland while my grandmother Grace was still pregnant with my father Leslie. Although I carry the surname Williams, I would be interested to know my real heritage.

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on 2016-01-23 18:24:36

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by KenClaudie on 2016-01-27 16:15:14

While I doubt that this is helpful, have you seen the website page,_Victoria?s_chn=
which advises that Broombank Farm was situated in Section 3 of the parish of Tullamarine, between Derby Street and the site where today there is a Seven Up, site previously occupied by the Junction Hotel which later became the Green's Corner Store (run by Cec and Lily Green). Broombank Farm was apparently run by John Cock, Keith Williams' parents, and Ray Loft. It is mentioned that on this site David Niall had a hotel named Lady of the Lake Hotel, seen when Burke and Wills passed by (1860-1861 ?). John Cock is named again in the next paragraph about Section 4 of the parish, because he took over property there in 1892. Good luck with your research. KenClaudie (in Normandie, France)

by DKW_7 on 2016-01-27 19:05:08

Hi Ken,

Thank you for your response. I will be sure to investigate this further. I have referred to the information contained on the family tree circles website, but thought I would ask the question in case someone generations later would know more through possible family stories.

Keith Williams was my cousin and Grace the lady I mentioned his aunt. As you would imagine things such as a child being born out of wedlock were not accepted, let alone discussed especially given the time 1912 in which my father was born. I may also try and see what I can uncover. It unfortunate that until both my parents passed discovering ancestry never mattered so much. I could and should have asked more questions.

Thanks again.

Debra Williams

by familydetective on 2016-01-27 21:05:33

Could this be who you are looking for:

Postcard to James Cowl

"Dear Jim Just a P.Card, hoping things are well with you. I and Les are well so with best love from yours nice sweet heart always. Grace

No3131 Pte Cowl J. B Company, 57 battalion. AIF

Australia, WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: James Cowl
Birth Place: Carlton, Victoria
Dossier Year Range: 1914-1920
Enlistment Place: Broadmeadows VOC
Service number: 3131
Next of Kin: Berk Cowl
Relationship to Soldier: Brother

Australia, Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Florence Grace Williams
Spouse Name: James Cowe
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1919
Registration Number: 1669r

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