The Ship THAMES 1826
Please contact me if you had an ancestor who arrived on the THAMES
The Irish immigration ship the Thames which brought wives and children from Cork Ireland to Sydney to unite with their husband/father who had been transported prior to 1826
The Thames was the first immigration ship to carry families directly from Ireland.
The Thames sailed from Cork 14 November 1825 and arrived 11 April 1826 and carried 37 wives and 107 children. There were also 16 paying passengers and crew captained by Robert Frazier and Surgeon Superintendant Dr. Linton R.N
There is no official passenger list existing in the NSW State Archives, the National Archives in Canberra or the National Archives in Dublin Ireland .
The purpose is to locate extended family members of those that immigrated on the Thames with the view to drawing together background information on what has happened to those Thames families and their convict husbands since 1826.
The objective is to document as many as possible Thames family stories and provide this information to the Mitchell Library and to the Society of Australian Genealogists (SAG) in the form of a manuscript.
A researcher named Lyn Vincent of Lyndon Genealogy has managed to reconstruct a passenger list through using the 1828 Census, the Ship Surgeon's Report, Birth, Death and Marriage Indexes and the Australian Biographical & Genealogical Record.
A Constable Michael Sheedy in the 1830s also compiled a list of family names that travelled on the Thames .
Unfortunately there were 16 deaths on the voyage (3 wives and 13 children). Close analysis of the Surgeon's Report (Dr. Lynton) has identified 2 of the wives and 8 children) on a microfilm held by the Mitchell Library. It would seem that not all of the Surgeon's report has been copied to microfilm.
The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW ) Wednesday 12 April 1826. Page 2
Yesterday arrived the ship Thames, Captain Robert Frazer, with stores for Government.
She sailed from Cork the 14th November; from Teneriffe 29th November; and from
Pernambuco 11th January last.
By this conveyance are forwarded 37 women, the wives of free men and prisoners, who
bring along with them 107 children. We are sorry to say that 3 women and 13 children
died on the passage. Passengers, Mr. Raymond, Mrs. Raymond, and 9 children, and Mr. James Richards,
saddler. Surgeon Superintendent, Dr. Linton, R. N.
Another vessel, with male prisoners, was to leave shortly after the departure of the Thames.
The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW) Wednesday 19 April 1826 Page 3
The women and children landed from the Thames on Saturday last, and were conducted
to the Old Orphan School, where they continued until called for by their several
relatives and friends.
The women, generally, looked hearty enough. As for the boys and girls, they were
perfect models of the Hibernian race; they seemed quite at home on their way up
George-street, and were as dignified in their step as any emigrant. This is a nouvelle
method to "ADVANCE AUSTRALIA," in importing children by wholesale. However, it's all
grist that comes to our mill. We hope the next importation the Ministry will send us,
may turn out to be a cargo of healthy and attractive damsels, and children will follow of course.
on 2011-04-16 05:09:06
janilye - 7th generation, Convict stock. Born in New South Wales now living in Victoria, carrying, with pride 'The Birthstain'.
Comments
An informative journal. To have first ship THAMES to carry immigrants from Ireland. Amazing!!
Hi Janilye
Do you have an interest in the Irish emigration ship "Thames". Did you have relatives arrive on the ship?
Regards
Robert Clayton
My 3rd. great grandmother Mary McCarthy 1795-1870 the wife of Ribbonist John Kilduff 1793-1854 was onboard but that was not why I was collecting names. The list was for someone else who is researching the Thames and I posted this for him. Although now, I have no idea who it was because someone HACKED my email and deleted all my folders and my contacts. - all is not lost though, I can send it a distant cousin John Kilduff he's in the loop!
Mary McCarthy was great, great grandmother. William (John and Mary's son) was my great grandfather. Frank was my grandfather and Alfred Martin Kilduff was my Dad. Thank you for your interesting articles on all things history.
Neridah Ford - nee Kilduff
I haven't added beyond your father on my tree (privacy and all that). Thank you for your comment. Glad you think they're interesting.
Do you live in Grafton?
Dear Janilye, My name is Paul Donohue and my GGG Grandfather James (possibly with alternative 'Donohue' spelling) was transported to Sydney on the 'Mangles'in 1822.
He applied to have his wife and family sent to Sydney on the 'Thames' in 1825.
I would be so grateful if I could find out if his son James (my GG Grandfather) born in Limerick in 1820 and other family members were among the passengers on the 'Thames' which arrived in Sydney in 1826. Does Lyn Vincent have such a list?
LYNDON GENEALOGY
or try
Bob Starling
6 Cecil Avenue
Wangi Wangi NSW 2267
clayton@aanet.com.au
I have 2 of Clayton's documents on my old computer, I think one 'Thames passenger data Base' an XLS file I can't open. The other is the Thames ship's surgeon's report. I'd forgotten all about this research.
Private message me your email address and I will send them to you, perhaps you can open them, I don't think they will be much as I've had them since the very beginning of the research. I don't know how far the list has progressed.
DONOGHUE, James. Per "Mangles", 1822
Trial Place: Co Limerick
Trial Date: Spring 1822
Sentence: Life
November 1822: On list of convicts landed from the "Mangles" and forwarded to Airds for distribution (Reel 6009; 4/3506 p.431)
10 April 1824 On list of prisoners on establishment at Bathurst with sentences not transmitted (Reel 6028; 2/8283 p.103)
James Donoghue Mangles (2) According to State Records, family came free on the Thames.
Thanks so much, Janilye. I really appreciate your wonderful, quick response. I'll email Robert Clayton first, to try and get his passenger lists for the "Thames". If this doesn't work out, I'd like to try to open the old Excel files you mentioned. I'll let you know what happens. Of course, I'll be only too happy to share with any other interested people whatever information I have and/or new info I might find out. Although I now live permanently in Bulgaria, I also proudly wear the 'birthstain' which I only recently discovered I have.
Hi again, Janilye,
I've been in touch with Bob Starling and he is very graciously doing some research to more accurately and fully identify my Donoghue ancestors, as they should appear on the "Clayton's" 1826 "Thames Passenger List".
I'm greatly indebted to you and FamilyTreeCircles for this marvelous assistance.
The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser, Wed 12 April 1826
Page 2, SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE
Yesterday arrived the ship Thames, Captain Robert Frazer, with stores for Government.
She sailed from Cork the 14th November; from Teneriffe 29th November; and from Pernambuco 11th January last.
By this conveyance are forwarded 37 women, the wives of free men and prisoners, who bring along with them 107 children.
We are sorry to say that 3 women and 13 children died on the passage. Passengers, Mr. Raymond, Mrs. Raymond, and 9 children, and Mr. James Richards, saddler. Surgeon Superintendent, Dr. Linton, R. N.
Another vessel, with male prisoners, was to leave shortly after the departure of the Thames.
Once again! here is the PASSENGER LIST (the McCarthy's are mine!)
Hi Janilye
My 4 x great grandfather, Robert Harvey, was a policeman convicted of murder in 1824 in Laois Queen's County, Ireland, and transported to Australia in 1825. His wife, Catherine, followed in the "Thames' with her 2 sons. After some time spent in Queensland as a convict overseer, Robert was granted a conditional pardon in 1827 for good conduct and he and Catherine and their family which now included 2 daughters, made their home in Sydney where Robert became a publican of 'The Wheelwright Arms'. He died in 1864 and Catherine in 1880.
Regards
Kerry Close
I see Catherine and the two boys on the passenger list; thank you for the additional information Kerry, these biographies are absolute gold.
I note that Robert Harvey died at son, John's home on 23 November 1864, at Foster-street, Fosterville Estate. aged 76.
Publicans Licenses Sydney. 1840
Mary Kilduff, nee McCarthy; wife of John Kilduff
As an FYI, my Hurley family came to New York City in 1834 on the Thames. That ship put on a lot of miles
Arrival on Thames, 1826
Sarah Connolly appearing as Sarah McQUAID born 1799 Dungannon, Tyrone, Ireland died 15 April 1864 Windsor, New South Wales wife of Michael McQuade 1791-1865
Their son John Michael McQuade 1826-1891 was married in windsor to Ann JOHN his name registered as LUTTRELL on his death his mother is recorded as 'unknown'
Arrivals on Thames, 1826
FARRAHER,BRIDGET daughter of Denis O'Malley died June 1867, Bellambi, Wollongong. [among the earliest settlers in the neighbourhood of
Wollongong, where they had a fine estate known as Bellambi Farm. At a beautiful spot on this farm, adjoining the Sydney road, a burial ground for the family and other members of the Catholic Church.
wife of Murtagh (Murty) FARRAHER born County Mayo 1788 son of Patrick FARRAHER transported on the 'Mangles'for life. died in Wollongong 1866
SON: Dennis FARRAHER died 18 December 1863 aged 42. leaving wife & three children.
SON: Thomas FARRAHER died 7 November 1880 at the Steam Packet Hotel, Wollongong, leaving wife, two sons and four daughters.
Arrival on THAMES 1826, Mary Moore and sons Daniel and John. Wife and children of convict LAURENCE MOORE who was transported per Isabella 1822. Another son, Michael emigrated a few years later, and it appears a daughter, MARGARET. Laurence had been assigned to John Campbell at Harrington Park, near Minto.
In 1828 at the Census, Laurence, 45 Government Servant and Labourer, and Mary Moore, 40 and Mary 11 [months - it says 11 but would be 11 months] were living in George St, Sydney.
Son DANIEL, aged 17, was an apprentice, living in the house of James Russell, blacksmith, and Margaret (nee Moore) Russell.
JOHN , aged 15, was a baker, living in the household of Richard Ralph in Cambridge St, Sydney.
Son Michael married MARIA RING who arrived on the Irish Bride Ship, Red Rover, in 1832. Michael and Maria made their way to Ilford in the Central West of NSW and had 6 children (JOHN FAIRFIELD m Catherine Byrne), Laurence Ring, Thomas, Michael, Frederick and Robert.
John Fairfield and Catherine had 8 children, including THOMAS "Dadder" Moore who married FANNY WEATHERLY. They in turn had 14 children.
Descendants of the Moore family still live in the Mudgee/Kandos/Rylstone/Ilford area as well as far and wide.
Thanks SallyE, good research. That's sorted out the Laurence MOOREs'
Hello
In researching my wife’s side of the family, I have found that the Thames was the ship that brought some relatives over from N Ireland.
The family name was the Whitfields. It looks like the mother, Mary Whitfield, may have passed away in 1826 prior to leaving. That would leave some, or all of, the children: Judith, Mary, Jacob, William, Catherine and Thomas to sail to Sydney. Now I don’t know how many of them actually left. I do know they were emigrating to be with their father, Jacob Whitfield, who had been sentenced to life imprisonment in Ireland for stealing horses. He was shipped to Sydney, was released I believe and remarried. One of the children, Jacob jnr, ended up in Alabama sometime before 1850, so I’m not sure if he emigrated to Alabama from Ireland, but he would have only been 6 in 1826 which leads me to think he got on the Thames to Sydney.
It’s been really interesting to research the family tree and I hope someone might be able to shed some light on which Whitfield family members actually boarded the Thames 1826.
Thank you
Hello, I have carried out extensive research (some 600 documented pages) on the passengers that migrated on the Thames. . My wife is related to the Whitfields. Mary Whitfield wife of Jacob and 4 children migrated. Two children Ann and James died on the voyage with William age 7 and Mary age 13 arriving in the Colony with Mary the mother who died on arrival in the Colony as documented in NSW State Archive records. Two other children John born 1807 and Joseph born 1809 did not migrate with their mother on the Thames. Jacob the father made application in 1848 to bring John and Joseph to the Colony but no record has been located of their arrival.
I have not identified with Judith Jacob, Catherine and Thomas departing for the Colony or being the children of Jacob and Mary Whitfield.
I have identified two Whitfields with the name Thomas that migrated to America.
My research into the Whitfield family covers some 275 pages. Where is your wifes connection to the Whitfield family?
If you would like to discuss my research please make contact with Bob on 0423957532.
Hello, I have carried out extensive research (some 600 documented pages) on the passengers that migrated on the Thames. . My wife is related to the Whitfields. Mary Whitfield wife of Jacob and 4 children migrated. Two children Ann and James died on the voyage with William age 7 and Mary age 13 arriving in the Colony with Mary the mother who died on arrival in the Colony as documented in NSW State Archive records. Two other children John born 1807 and Joseph born 1809 did not migrate with their mother on the Thames. Jacob the father made application in 1848 to bring John and Joseph to the Colony but no record has been located of their arrival.
I have not identified with Judith Jacob, Catherine and Thomas departing for the Colony or being the children of Jacob and Mary Whitfield.
I have identified two Whitfields with the name Thomas that migrated to America.
My research into the Whitfield family covers some 275 pages. Where is your wifes connection to the Whitfield family?
If you would like to discuss my research please make contact with Bob on 0423957532.
Hi, Thankyou in advance everyone for your work, this has been a great find. I am tracking down members of the family,we know them as McCooey, however on the ship they are registered as McCovey. Sarah (mother) children, Catherine, Alicia, John. What I need to find info on, is the death of Margaret, born approx 1818, believed to have died on board? Any suggestions on this ?
Margaret McCooey born in Armagh, in 1818 died at sea, onboard the vessel Thames, on the 31 March 1826
Her mother Sarah, nee MURPHY died 4 June 1854 at Mulgoa, Penrith, nsw.
Catherine b, 1813 died 1879 m. James NOWLAN
Alice b. 1817 died 1886 m. Thomas CROSS
John b. 1819 died 1884 m. Catherine HAYES
A girl Sarah Ann born in Armagh in 1821 died in Cork in 1825
After arrival a son, James was born in Rooty Hill in 1827 died in Grafton in 1896 married twice 1. Johanna LOVAT 1828-1853. 2. Emma Jane WILKINSON 1837-1908 and he managed to father about 14 little McCooey's.
Then Henry born in Rooty Hill in 1829 died 1904, Sydney m. Ellen GALLAHER 1832-1915 this couple had 13 children.
Lastly was Joseph born 1831 died 1899 m. Lucinda FURY 1833-1920 This couple had 10 children.
James McCooey, a stockman at Ramornie Station, on the Clarence, died when he fell from his horse. Here is his death notice
Clarence and Richmond Examiner (Grafton, NSW) Saturday 18 April 1896
M'COOEY.-At Ramornie Station on 25th March,
accidentally, JAMES M'COOEY, dearly beloved husband of Emma M'Cooey ; leaving a sorrowing wife,
four sons and seven daughters to mourn their loss.
Aged 68 years
The Daily Telegraph, Tuesday 12 July 1904
A FATAL ACCIDENT.
Henry M'Cooey (75), residing at 53 Myrtle-street, and employed as a carter by the City
Council, died at his home on Saturday evening as the result of an accident on the previous day.
He was endeavoring to get on the shaft of his cart, in Campbell-street, when the horse suddenly started, causing him to fall. One of the wheels passed over his body, and fractured several ribs.
He was taken to his home suffering greatly from shock, and received medical
attention until he expired.
The Carcoar Chronicle Friday 1 September 1899
OBITUARY
FOREST REEFS.
(From Our Own Correspondent.)
It is with deep regret that I have this week to chronicle the death of
Mr. Joseph McCooey, which took place at his residence, Lumpy Swamp, on Monday morning.
The deceased was 69 years of age, a native of N.S.W., and leaves a widow and a family of 10.
The news of Mr McCooey's death will be read with regret by his many friends in the Orange and Carcoar
district.
He was a man who, by benevolence and good fellowship gained many friends, and was highly respected by
all with whom he came in contact.
Great sympathy is felt for the bereaved relatives.
The funeral took place on Tuesday afternoon, and the cortege was one of the largest that ever passed through Millthorpe. It consisted of about 60 vehicles and 150 horsemen. The
remains were interred at the Millthorpe cemetery. The Rev. Father O'Keefe conducted the service.
I know its all a bit old but I am a descendant of a woman and child from Ireland who arrived on the Thames in. 1826.
This is based on the 1828 Census listing.
I'll put their details below. You mention various passenger lists which were put together. Can you tell me please or direct me to where I might be able to find these?
Many thanks. Peter Yates
From the census with her husband listed
Name Age. Arrival Year. Ship
John Bohen 37 1821 John Barry
Mary Bohen 37 1826 Thames
Edmund Bohen 12 1826 Thames
Mary Bohen 9 1826 Thames
Johana Bohen (Maybe a new born in the colony?)
I heard the story of this ship from my grandmother. Luckily she's still alive and I'll be visiting her in about a month, I'll try to find out something.
Hi,
I know this is an old post.
But I am a direct descendant of Rosanna Moran (aged 32 at the time) and Richard Casey (aged 5), Thomas Casey his brother (aged 6) was also on the ship as well. They came out on the Thames to join Patrick Casey, who was sent to Australia as a convict.