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Thomas Noble in Westfield, Massachusetts - 800+ page book from 1878

Journal by danwyldernoble

To support my research into the Noble family line, which seems to begin in England but in the US with the birth of Thomas Noble in 1632, I was Google searching for "Thomas Noble of Westfield, MA" ... and lo and behold, I came up with a book that was published in the 1870's, authored by Lucius M. Boltwood, with that very title!! Here is the link:

This Thomas Noble was definitely our ancestor, since all of his birth and death dates, his wife (Hannah Warriner), children and their spouses are all spoken about in this book! And as you may already know from your research, Thomas Noble was born in the Massachusetts colony in 1632... and according to the current info I have, his parents (Thomas Noble & Rachel Gardner) were born in England, and emigrated to America (we don't have an exact date... but I'm thinking it would be about 1630... when there was a big immigration into Boston) and, interestingly, they both died in the same year that their son, Thomas, was born in America, but not in the same month... though I still have to confirm this. So who raised the baby Thomas... our first American native ancestor? This is an open question (siblings, aunts/uncles, others?), and I am now interested in answering. We also are now more interested in going to Westfield and understand where our Noble line lived from the 1630's until the ~1860's(?), when Bohan Noble left to Iowa with his family.

At any rate, I copied this book from online, into an MS Word document and am reading through it (~only 1% so far, it's 10 MB file of 2,000+ pages!), I'm correcting the mis-translated words (from the obvious electronic scan and translation into electronic type), and adding a new, more detailed, table of contents (which MS Word can do automatically as long as you code the headers), as I go. So as I tighten it up it will likely come down to <1,000 pages by the time I'm done. It will likely take me a number of weeks and months to complete this task. However, a printed book (which is 700-800 pages(!) depending on the version) can be purchased on-line for < $70... so I will likely buy a copy, too... since it also has the pictures, which the online version does not.

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by jmswtlk on 2013-01-10 19:28:39

I have run across Rachel Gardner, and her husband, a few times during my browsing and have decided to follow up by getting into the details. Given that the couple died so soon after arriving here explains a lot about how little is known of the pair.

Rachel has been proposed, in several forums, as being a sister of Thomas Gardner of Salem. The following is a link to a post dealing with Gardners and Gardners (our most popular post) and to the TGS forum.

Appreciate that you posted this. Looking forward to learning more about Rachel and Thomas.

by jmswtlk on 2013-01-10 19:52:41

Betty N. Turner quoting Lucius Boltwood in her book (Nobel legacy: ... at says that the "concurrence" is that Thomas Noble was born in England in 1632 and came over here when he was 21.

Seeing this, my inclination would be to do a massive search to find all of the references about Thomas that have been published, indexed, and such. At some point, the real story (or something close) would fall out.

Unfortunately, we are going through the same thing for Thomas Gardner of Salem since there are conflicts (attributable to many things - the long time span between then and now, copy errors, and much more) of several sorts in the assumed known information.

I'm happy to run across Rachel, again, as that makes the story a little more interesting.

by NobleTree on 2013-10-06 21:57:44

I am very interested in Rachel/Thomas Noble. I am a direct descendant of them. I found on that one researcher has her lineage back to the 600's. If you go on ancestry and type in her name, get family trees. There is one that is "A Martin/Owens/hilton/Truesdale Family Tree" owned by SCgal20. Unbelievable what is found about her side. There is also Nobles back to the 1500's. There is a book I am looking for: "Rachel Gardiner--A Life Between Royal Britian & Early America". Finding this would be amazing!

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