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walter smith born 1836 suffolk england

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I am looking for the wife of walter she was born in 1840 in suffolk her name was ellen or ellenor but I have found four ellens married to walter on the same day and year in suffolk all with different maiden names their maiden names wernt put on the m,arriage certificate until about 1912 I believe so how do I know I have the right one can anyone help me on this please dayday

Surnames: SMITHHOYDAYCARROLLTIGHEHINDSPLOWMAN
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on 2011-09-24 00:00:48

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by asheppard on 2011-09-24 20:26:39

Do you have any information on Walter SMITH or his wife Ellen/Ellenor, where in Suffolk were they born?, what year are you looking at for the marriage? any information will help in the search.

Do you have Birth or baptism records, parents names, death records, children's names or births anything at all.

The brides maiden name is recorded on the marriage certificate, unless it's peculiar to Suffolk but I've never come across a marriage without the brides maiden name.

by dayday on 2011-09-24 23:34:43

to a sheppard walter was born in belchamp otten he married in the 4th quarter 1860 novemer 23rd. ellen died at age 65 in 1905.they lived in risbridge in suffolk. I believe his parents were george and alice smith Some of Walter and ellens children were walter gertrude annie kate laura and fred.
I read that about the womens maiden names not being on the certificates off of one of the family history things on the computer and as i have never seen a certificate that old i didn't know anything different thanks for putting me right on that. many thanks for your help dayday

by janilye on 2011-09-25 04:04:17

1881 England Census
Ellen Smith
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Walter Smith
Gender: Female
Where born: Kedington, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Wixoe
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Risbridge
Sub-registration district: Clare
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1824
Folio: 124
Page Number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Walter Smith 45
Ellen Smith 41
William Smith 19
Arthur Smith 16
Kate Smith 14
Walter Smith 12
Laura Smith 10
Rachel Smith 7
Annie Smith 5
Gertrude Smith 3
Fred Smith

by janilye on 2011-09-25 04:43:47

I was just looking at the 1901 census where her age doesn't gel but every thing else seems to fit. There is Walter and Ellen and two daughters still at home Annie 25 Gertrude 23 and then 3 grandchildren and then there is a George SPARKES who describes himself as the brother-in-law.and his birthplace is Kedington - same as Ellen.
If you can't see the actual census pages let me know and I will copy and send them to you.

1901 England Census
about George Sparkes
Name: George Sparkes
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Brother-in-Law
Gender: Male
Where born: Kedington, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Wixoe
Ecclesiastical parish: Wixoe St Leonard
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image -agricultural Labourer

Registration district: Risbridge
Sub-registration district: Clare
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 13
Piece: 1740
Folio: 107
Page Number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
Walter Smith 63 Head
Ellen Smith 64 Wife
Annie Smith 25 Daughter
Gertrude Smith 23 Daughter
Alice Smith 14 G/Daughter
William Smith 2 G/Son
Mennie Smith 8 Months G/Daughter
George Sparkes 56 Brother-in-law

by dayday on 2011-09-26 00:09:41

Hi janilye i think this is the right ellen as one of the four surnames Ihave been getting up is sparkes She was born in 1840 and was born in kedington.gertrude was my grandmother and the baby of 8 months was my mother minnie my grandmother had 3 children before she married in 1904 william minnie and arthur she married william hoy from steeple bumpstead suffolk george would have been ellens brother many thanks for all your help yes i would like a copy of these cencus papers please

by asheppard on 2011-09-26 02:42:40

Here is the 1871 Census for Walter & Ellen

Name: Walter Smith
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Birdbrook, Essex, England
Civil parish: Whixoe
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration district: Risbridge
Sub-registration district: Clare
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 85
Piece: 1713
Folio: 141
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter Smith 25
Ellen Smith 32
Alice Smith 11
William Smith 9
Henery Smith 7
Arthur Smith 5
Kate Smith 3
Walter Smith 1 Year, 4 Months
Louisa Smith 4 Months

states that all the children where born in Wixoe.

It shows Walter born in Birdbrook Essex?? in abt 1846 but it should be 1836 transcribed his age 25 instead of 35, it shows Ellen born Kedington Suffolk.

I also found this 1861 Census but the image doesn't match the record perhaps someone else can have a look at it and find them.

Name: Walter Smith
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elen Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Birdbrook

Civil parish: Wixoe
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image

Registration district: Risbridge
Sub-registration district: Clare
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Piece: 1126
Folio: 132
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter Smith 24
Elen Smith 22
Walter Smith 3
Mar Smith 1

happy hunting

by janilye on 2011-09-26 04:04:54

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