William Greenwood of United Kingdom Who Went to Australia IN 1886 7

Is this your couple

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Marriages Dec 1884
Greenwood William Haslingden 8e 150
WATSON Margaret Emmeline Haslingden 8e 150

The parish record
Married 20 Oct 1884 St James Church Accrington Lancashire

William - widower, 51, House Furnisher?, father James Greenwood Occ:Lodge Keeper
Margaret Emmaline Watson - widow, 37, father John Wait Occ:Railway Constructor?

Witnesses: John Howe & Emma Howe

William approx birth 1833
Margaret approx birth 1847

How kind of you to respond, and so quickly.

Margaret Emmaline's family name is WAIT.

Do you think that Margaret, being a widow with name of WATSON, might have returned to her original family name of WAIT?

I shall see if I can find more details for you and send them on in a short while.

Heather

Victoria Australia Assisted & Unassisted Passangers

Name: Wm Greenwood
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Age: 50
Arrival Date: 4 Jun 1887
Arrival Port: Melbourne, Australia
Departure Port: Liverpool
Ship: Alcinous
Nationality: English

with Margt E and infant (male)
Williams Occ: labourer

Bravo!

That is absolutely correct.

The baby, in fact, was female: Mary Duncan Alcinous Greenwood.

I am greatly indebted to you.

Best wishes

Heather

Do you need details for William Greenwood prior to his marriage to Margaret Emmaline Watson nee Wait.

Census Details

Thank you again.

I would love any details that you have.

This is a part of the family I know nothing about.

I know that the Greenwood family is now very established in Australia.

I, however, am in Italy, and doing this research.

Best wishes

Heather

It looks like his first wife was also Margaret

1881 England Census
Name: William Greenwood
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Margaret Greenwood
Gender: Male
Where born: Barrowford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Burnley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 3 Devonshire Rd
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Furniture Broker
Household Members:
Name Age
William Greenwood 49
Margaret Greenwood 47 b Barrowford Lancashire

possible death for first wife Margaret, you may need to order copy to verify details.

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Deaths Sep 1883
GREENWOOD Margaret 56 Burnley 8e 156

Unable to find them in 1871 Census at this point

This is a miracle of the first order: thank you.

Do you only work on the Greenwoods?

I am searching for my great-grandparents on both sides.

The Camerons are the Others.

Very difficult to track them down, especially as there appear to be little mistakes (like the one saying that my grandmother was a boy!).

They can be very misleading.

I am very grateful to you.

Best wishes

Heather

1861 England Census
Name: William Greenwood
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margt Greenwood
Gender: Male
Where born: Blacks, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Barrowford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Top of Hill

Occupation: Cotton Weaver

Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration district: Burnley
Sub-registration district: Colne
Household Members:
Name Age
William Greenwood 34
Margt Greenwood 34 b Barrowford Cotton Weaver

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1851 England Census
Name: William Greenwood
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret Greenwood
Gender: Male
Where born: Barrowford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Barrowford Booth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Bank Stile

Occupation: Cotton Weaver

Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration district: Burnley
Sub-registration district: Colne
Household Members:
Name Age
William Greenwood 24
Margaret Greenwood 24 b Barrowford Cotton Weaver

So possible birth is around 1827 I had a quick look at the births for Lancashire but it may take some time to find anything.

Do you have a death for William or Margaret Emmaline in Australia - giving parents details. Have fathers names from the Marriage in 1884 hoping for a mothers name to help with search.

Ancestry research is purely a hobby. It keeps my mind active.

I don't do specific name research I have a look at the post and if I can find something I post it to help the person researching.

There are many kind helpful people on this wonderful site that help others and they have helped me many times, so in return I like to help other people when and if I can. It's enjoyable and I have the time.

Thank you again.

It's certainly fascinating.

I am looking for the parents of my Scots grandfather, who was born in Adelaide, South Australia.

He was born in May 1886 and his name was ARCHIBALD JOSEPH CAMERON.

He married Mary Trethowen.

The papers I have found are for an ARCHIBALD JOHN CAMERON, born on the same date in Adelaide.

If he is the one, then I have also found his parents, but it's hard to know if there may have been two Camerons, or whether there was a mistake in calling him John!

Like the mistake in saying that my grandmother was a boy!

Thank you for all of your work.

You must help many people.

Best wishes

Heather

Marriage for Margaret Emmaline Wait

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Marriages Dec 1865
Wait Margaret Emmaline Thanet 2a 1401
Watson Herbert Thanet 2a 1401

Thanet is in Kent England

possible children, will continue later

That is very interesting, because I had found that too.

I hope she didn't have to leave children behind.

Something was published in the Kent Chronicle.

Best wishes

Heather

Two of the boys were with their grandparents

1881 England Census

Name: Archer Watson
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Jane A. Watson
Gender: Male
Where born: Margate, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Margate St John Baptist
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: No. 1 Cambridge Villas
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Coach Builder Employing 7 In The Factory
Registration district: Thanet
Sub registration district: Margate
Household Members:
Name Age
Archer Watson 64
Jane A. Watson 63, wife, b Margate
Mary A. Watson 24, daught,b Margate
Herbert Watson 14, grandson,b Hackney, Drapers Assistant
Archer Watson 12, grandson, b Hackney

On registration for one of Archers children he gives his name as
Archer Mornington Waite** Watson
Parish Register
Name: Herbert Archer Allison Watson
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 6 Jan 1897
Father's name: Archer Mornington Waite Watson
Mother's name: Francis Marshall Watson
Parish or Poor Law Union: Clapton Park All Saints
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers

Herbert born Nov 16 1889
Archer Occ: House Decorator
Address: 32 Lochhurst Street

Marriage for Archer & Frances
Parish Register

Name: Archer Mornington Waite** Watson
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Age: 21
Spouse: Frances Marshall Allison
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Sep 1889
Parish: St John the Evangelist, Lambeth
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Herbert Watson
Spouse Father: Armitage Allison
Register Type: Parish Register

Detasils:
Archer: 21, Bachelor, Confetioner, Add: Aldershot Hampshire, Father: Herbert Watson Occ: Carriage Builder

Frances: 24, Spinster, Add: 22 York Rd, Father: Armitage Allison, Occ: Chemist

Witnesses: Alexander Fraser & Elizabeth Watson

** spelling Waite on both Marriage & Childs baptism

1871 England census

Name: Herbert Watson
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma Watson
Gender: Male
Where born: Margate, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Hackney St John
Ecclesiastical parish: Dalston St Phillip
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: West Hackney
Address: London Fields, 1 Blanchard Road
Household Members:
Name Age
Herbert Watson 26, Head, Occ: Wheelwright
Emma Watson 23, wife, Born New York**
Herbert Watson 4, son, born London
Archer M Watson 2, son, born London
Geo A Watson 9 Months, son, Born London

**Margaret Emmaline Wait/e born New York

I thought I had left you a message re the ship but looks like I had not.
On the morning of the 4 June 1887 there were six sailing vessels in the harbour at Hobsons Bay one of them was reported to be the 'ALCINOUS' from Liverpool, after a fine weather passage of 94 days. Captain D. Brown in command and consigned to Messrs. J. and A Brown. I don't have a passenger list but do know there were 23 in second cabin and steerage. I believe all passengers alighted in Melbourne and the vessel loaded with kerosene for Sydney.
From Melbourne it went on to Sydney, Newcastle where it loaded up with 2455 tons of coal (Dalgety and Co. Ltd. agents)and sailed to San Francisco, which was a regular voyage..

Emma & her Father in 1861 Census

1861 England Census

Name: Emma Wait
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: 1847
Gender: Female
Where born: United States, Canada (reads United States & Canada)
[Wisconsin, United States] **
Civil Parish: Barking
Town: Barking
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: Romford
Sub-registration district: Barking Town

Household Members:
Name Age
William Scruby 32
Alice Scruby 23
William Scruby 1
Scruby 1/12
John Wait 47 Noingham Gloucestershire Occ:Railway Contractor
Emma Wait 14

** Wisconsin Canada is a submitted entry also has submitted entry fro John as Newingham Gloucester and name as John White.

Will need much more research

Thank you, thank you.

Your research is so helpful and I don't know how to thank you.

But thank you I do.

Best wishes

Heather