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John HEMPSEED + Charlotte THOMPSON - Manawatu

Journal by ngairedith

John HEMPSEED (1829-1909) was born 8 May 1829 in Dunferm;one, Fife, Scotland.
He married Charlotte THOMPSON (1825-1893) 15 Aug 1853 in NSW, Australia. At some stage they settled in the Manawatu, New Zealand

The known children of JOHN & CHARLOTTE
.. 1 ..
1854 - 1852 John Hempseed
born in Sydney
John died an infant

.. 2 ..
1855 - 1916 CATHERINE Hempseed

Catherine married Carl Friedrich August POPPE (1846-1928)
in Wellington on 15 June 1871
* Carl's father was Friedrich August POPPE (1819-1897) of Prussia
* his mother was Anna Elizabeth DIENER (1817-1897)
Catherine was 15 when she married & Carl was 25
their known children
(much more on the family at above link)
. 1 1872 - 1874 William August Poppe
..William died aged 16 months
. 2 1874 - 1947 August Frederick Poppe
.. August married Martha Christina AITKEN in 1909
. 3 1876 - 1945 Fanny Louisa Poppe
.. Fanny married Edward GUDOPP in 1897
. 4 1877 - 1943 Charles John Poppe
.. Charles married Helen Louisa COX in 1905
. 5 1879 - 1931 Ernest Arthur Poppe
. 6 1881 - 1904 James Thomas Poppe
. 7 1883 - 1946 Henry William Poppe
. 8 1884 - 1884 Edward Thomas Poppe
.. Edward died aged 5 weeks
. 9 1886 - 1918 Francis 'Frank' Robert Poppe
.. Frank married Avis Olivia FRECKLINGTON in 1908
. 10 1887 - 1938 Thomas Albert Poppe
. 11 1889 - 1930 Augusta Catherine 'Katie' Poppe
.. Katie married Andrew Wasson in 1914
. 12 1891 - 1965 Caroline Ada Poppe (see comments)
.. Caroline married Alfred 'Alf' WHALE in 1908
. 13 1892 - 1892 John Robert Poppe
..John died aged 4 months
. 14 1894 - 1874 Alexander Duncan Poppe
.. Alexander died 7 June 1974 in Palmerston North
. 15 1897 - 1948 Ada Charlotte Poppe
.. Ada married William GOW in 1929
. 16 1898 - 1967 Annie Elizabeth Poppe
.. Annie married John BLAKELY in 1918
. 17 1901 - 1983 Jessie Agnes Poppe
..Jessie had a son Neville Poppe (1923-1993). She did not marry. She ran a large sheep farm at Fitzherbert West

.. 3 ..
1858 - 1931 JANET Hempseed

Janet married Peter Brown (1846-1929) at Marton Registrar Office 1 Jan 1874

.. 4 ..
1859 - 1860 SUSAN THOMPSON Hempseed

..born 8 Oct 1859 in Turakina
Susan apparently died in infancy
* thank you to Gmce for her message:
Subject: NZ Hempseed descendant
To: ngairedith
From: Gmce
Date: 2012-03-12 21:45:45
Hello Ngaire,
Your post on this subject is ten years old now (sic - 2 July 2009). . but I have only just found it on the Net. John Hempseed married Charlotte Thompson, not Caroline.. I am their daughter Marion's gt-grand-daughter. There was another daughter, Susan Thompson, who died in infancy. I found her in the NZ register.

.. 5 ..
1860 - 1916 FANNY THOMPSON Hempseed

Fanny married Donald McLEAN 27 Sep 1876 in Turakina, Manawatu
their known children
. 1 1877 - 1955 Donald Hempseed McLean
.. Donald married Catherine Jane CUNNINGHAM in 1905
. 2 1878 - 1962 Lachlan Thompson McLean
. 3 1880 - 1939 John Hempseed McLean
.. John married Olive Jane BURR in 1918
. 4 1883 - 1963 Duncan McLean
. 5 1889 - Francis McLean
. 6 1894 - 1968 Charlotte Winifred McLean
.. Charlotte married Kenneth Nicholson GLASGOW in 1921
. 7 1898 - 1969 Douglas Hector McLean
.. Douglas married Stella Marie GREEN in 1921

.. 6 ..
1863 - 1955 MARIA MORT Hempseed

Maria married Alexander John 'Sandy' PERRY (1852-1894) in Turakina 12 June 1878
their known children
. 1 1879 - 1915 Mary Charlotte Perry
.. Mary died aged 36 (unmarried)
. 2 1880 - 1935 John Robert Perry
.. John married Gertrude Henderson ARMSTRONG (1882-1944) in 1907
. 3 1881 - 1949 Alexander John Perry
. 4 1883 - ? Georgina Perry
. 5 1884 - 1949 James Hempseed Perry
. 6 1886 - 1917 Maria Esther Perry
.. Maria died aged 31 (unmarried)
. 7 1888 - 1963 Grace Perry
.. Grace married Sidney Henry LODGE (1887-1976) in 1920
. 8 1889 - 1965 Stanley Gordon Perry
.. Stanley married Gertrude Grances Dorothy DENSHAM in 1912
. 9 1892 - 1911 Wilfred Grover Perry
.. Wilfred died aged 18
Sandy died in Kiwitea on 8 Aug 1894 aged 41
Alexander John Perry The late Mr. Perry, who settled in the Kiwitea district in 1877, was born in Wellington in 1852, his father coming out to the Colony with the 65th Regiment. His early days were spent on his father's farm at Turakina, where he had a sound and practical training. When Mr Perry took up his holding of 900 acres, in the Kiwitea, it was all standing bush, there was no road to Feilding, and he had to endure the hardships incidental to a pioneer's life. The farm is now all improved and there is a substantial homestead in well laid-out grounds. Mr Perry was married in 1877 to Miss Hempseed. He was at one time a member of the Kiwitea Road Board, and by his death, which took place in August 1894, the district lost one of its best settlers. Mrs Perry, with her family of five sons and four daughters, still resides on the property and is greatly assisted in the management of the farm by her two eldest sons, John and Alexander. Photo Sandy Perry


Maria died Maria died 27 Nov 1955 in Kiwitea aged 88. They are buried at Kimbolton

.. 7 ..
1866 - 1940 MARION Hempseed

Marion 'married' Pierce Alfred PHILLIPS 6 March 1882 in Palmerston North
17 May 1882 Pierce Alfred Phillips alias Frank Pierce Phillips, was brought up on remand charged with having feloniously intermarried with Marion Hempseed, his wife Avice Corce Phillips, formerly HAWKES, being then and still alive. (Frank Pearce Phillips married Avice Hawkes in NZ in 1860)
Mr Esam said he, on the lst occasion, asked for a remand for the production of important witnesses. Mr Keeling was in attendance and after his examination he would ask for a further remand until Wednesday as Mr Lewis, an important witness, owing to the rough weather, had not arrived. He called the attention of the Bench to certain omissions of which no notice had been taken at the last hearing. He also quoted from the various marriage Acts of the colony, with reference to the means of proving marriages.
Mr Madden did not intend to raise any objections on this occasion.
Mr R. N. Keeling, being sworn, said: I reside at Palmerston North; I am a registrar of marriages for that district; I am the person named in the gazette 90, 1877; I produce the register of marriages on the 6th March 1882; I solemnised on that day Pierce Alfred Phillips and Marion Hempseed; the accused is the person mentioned in the register; accused is described as a widower; I cannot identify this lady now in Court as Marion Hempseed, as I only saw her once for a short time; accused gave the year 1861 as the death of his former wife; I married Pierce Alfred Phillips; the certificate produced marked B is a true copy; the signature is in my handwriting; J. Hempseed, the father of Marion Hempseed, was present on the occasion and signed as an attesting witness
Cross-examined: That certificate is a true copy; in that certificate the lady is described as being born in Fifeshire, Scotland.
Mr Esam at this stage asked for a remand until Wednesday.
Mr Madden, under the circumstances would offer no objection.
Accused was remanded until Wednesday next.
Mr Esam also asked that Mr Keeling should be bound over as well as Mr Hempseed and quoted authorities in support. The application was granted.
Marion had a son to Pierce on 5 Aug 1882, Gilbert Hempseed. He took his stepfather's name Gair (he is added below)
Marion next married James GAIR (1859-1916) on 2 June 1887 in Turakina
Marion & James had 6 children:
. 1 1882 - 1940 Gilbert Gair
.. born Hempseed
. 2 1888 - Catherine Euphemia Gair
.. Catherine married Archibald CAMERON in 1906
. 3 1892 - 1965 Eliza Gair
.. Eliza married Frederic William MOORE in 1919
. 4 1893 - 1893 Charlotte Isabella Gair
.. Charlotte died aged 2 months
. 5 1895 - 1970 Maria Gair
.. Maria married George Eric CUTFIELD in 1923
. 6 1897 - 1917 James Gair
.. James served in WWI as Lance Corporal 9/2170 with the NZEF, 11th Reinforcements Otago Mounted Rifles, D Squadron. He died of appendicitis 17 May 1917 Egypt to Palestine aged 20. His Next Of Kin: James & Marion Gair of Marton. He is buried F. 363. at KANTARA WAR MEMORIAL CEMETERY, Al Qantarah, Shamal Sina', Egypt
. 7 1901 - 1954 Flora Thompson Gair
.. Flora married Wilfred Borlase VOSPER (1892-1922) in 1921
.. she next married Louis Edgar YOUNG (1886-1950) in 1925

.. 8 ..
1867 - 1887 EUPHEMIA Hempseed

Euphemia married John CALMAN (1856-1887) in Rangitikei 28 July 1885
* John & his brother William Calman (1862-1940) were in partnership as Undertakers in Wanganui. Their parents, from Eley, Scotland, George Calman (1825-1896) & Frances Elizabeth (nee Park 1838-1911), are buried in Wanganui. His father constructed most of the wharves and bridges in the district. Among their 7 siblings was, Robert Calman (1860-1882). Brother, George Calman (1858-1935) had a shoe store in Wanganui. There were 5 sisters.
* John Calman died aged 31, 4 months before the birth of their 2nd child
their known children
* 1886 - 1964 Elsie Marion Calman
.. Elsie married James Hugill in 1908
* 1887 - 1973 John Robert Hempseed Calman
Wanganui Herald, 7 June 1887 CALMAN - On the 7th instant, at his residence, John Calman, aged 31 years.
Euphemia died 5 days after his birth aged 22
Wanganui Herald, 13 Oct 1887 CALMAN - On the 13th, at her parents' residence (Rangitikei), Euphemia, relict of the late John Calman; aged 23 years.

NOTES
Feilding Star, 19 Oct 1909
The late Mr John Hempseed of Franklin Vale, Makirikiri, one of the oldest settlers and a widely known and highly respected resident, who was buried today, lived in the district for over forty years and had reached the ripe old age of 80 years. He leaves four daughters in the district:
* Mrs A. Poppe (Marton)
* Mrs A. C. Perry (Kimbolton)
* Mrs Donald McLean
* Mrs J. Gair (Makirikiri)

PHOTO Headstone of John & Charlotte Hempseed at Turakina
* their daughter Euphemia (Mrs Calman) is buried with them
HEADSTONE READS:
Sacred to the memory of
CHARLOTTE THOMPSON
beloved wife of
John HEMPSEED who departed this life at Turakina
on 12th day of March 1893
aged 68 years
also of
JOHN HEMPSEED
who died 16th October 1909
aged 80 years.

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by ngairedith on 2012-03-13 02:21:37

updated

by Gmce on 2012-03-14 20:18:01

Hello Ngaire,
Sorry, I really did think the site was ten years old!
Marion Hempseed had a child by Pierce Alfred Philips, Gilbert Hempseed, b 5 Aug 1882. He took on his step-father James Gair's surname and had male descendants. So the Gair name lives on through a circumstantial quirk. Gilbert died 17 Aug 1940, Hawkes Bay.

Both James and Marion Gair are buried in the Bonny Glen Cemetery. John and Charlotte Hempseed are both buried in the Turakina Cemetery.

I am pretty certain the Elizabeth Hempseed attached to the family tree is not of this family. There is an Ian Hempseed on a local WW1 memorial, also not of this family. There were other Hempseeds in NZ originating from outside of the Manawatu. (But as far as Elizabeth goes, I wonder if it is simply a mistake, the entry for Euphemia, or for an Elizabeth with the Hempseed name incorrectly attached.)

Eliza Gair was my grandmother, BTW.

Regards, "Gmce"

by Addybee on 2012-03-20 21:04:12

Hello "Gmce"
In response to all this wonderful information on John and Charlotte Hempseed - just one thing - you are missing a child - Janet Hempseed 1858 - 1921 - Janet, or Jane, as she was sometimes called, married Peter Brown on 1st Jan 1874 and went on to have 11 children. I am Peter and Janet's great granddaughter. We discovered Marion Hempseeds son Gilbert only recently and couldn't work out what had happened to him until I came across your information. Wonderful and one more piece of the puzzle put together.
Addy

by LoisB1 on 2012-08-19 15:09:53

Hi Addy,

Just found this site and your above message, even if it is 5mnths old! I too am Peter and Jane Brown's Great Granddaughter. My grandfather was Herbert Brown, the youngest of Peter and Jane's 11 children. My family has pretty much all the family tree if you need any info.

Lois.

by NZ_Amanda on 2016-03-03 04:17:08

Hi Ngaire - just a small correction for you (if you are still on this site:

12
1891 - 1965 Caroline Edith Poppe
- Caroline married Alfred WHALE in 1908

She was Caroline Ada (Carrie) POPPE
(my great-great-grandmother)

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