birth reg 1st quarter of 1914

England & Wales, FreeBMD
Name: Leslie J Pring
Mother's Maiden Name: Kitch
Registration Year: 1914
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Chard
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 5c Page: 544

England & Wales, Death Index
Name: Leslie J Pring
Birth Date: abt 1914
Date of Registration: Mar 1946
Age at Death: 32
Registration district: Chard
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 5c Page: 424

England & Wales, FreeBMD
Name: Annie Kitch
Registration Year: 1904
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Taunton
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 467
Spouse : James Pring

1911 Census for James & Annie


1911 England Census about James Pring
Name: James Pring
Age in 1911: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Buckland St Mary, Somerset
Civil Parish: Broadway
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street address: The Village, Broadway, Nr Ilminster
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Gardener
Registration district: Chard

Household Members:
Name Age
James Pring 37, head, b1874 Buckland, St Mary Somerset
Annie Pring 36, wife, b1875 Ilmister Somerset
Charles Pring 17, son, b1894 Buckland St Mary Somerset
William J Pring 15, son, b1896 ditto
Victor Pring 14, son, b1897 ditto
Ellen Pring 12, daug, b1899 ditto
Walter Pring 10, son, b1901 Broadway, Somerset
Dorothy May Pring 5, daug. b1906 ditto
Ernest Cecil Pring 3, son, b1908 ditto
Ivy Lillian Pring 1, daug. b1910 ditto.

Details:
married 18yrs Children 9, Alive 8, Deceased 1.


1901 Census

1901 England Census about James Pring
Name: James Pring
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Ruth Pring
Birth Place: Ilminster, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Broadway
Ecclesiastical parish: Broadway
Town: Broadway
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Household Members:
Name Age
James Pring 27, Occ: Teazle Worker
Ruth Pring 35, B Broadway Somerset
Charles Pring 7
William Pring 5
Victor Pring 3
Ellen Pring 2
Walter Pring 2 Months

Children all born Buckland Somerset


It looks possible that Ruth was Annie's older sister you will need copies of the two marriages to compare details.

Marriages Dec 1893
Kitch Ruth Chard 5c 689
Pring James Chard 5c 689

Deaths Sep 1903
Pring Ruth 37 Chard 5c 217

The children in 1911 Census

Charles to Walter are James & Ruth's children

Dorothy May Pring 5,b1906
Ernest Cecil Pring 3,b1908
Ivy Lillian Pring 1,b1910

are James & Annie's children

James has given details from his marriage date to Ruth and the number of children in total for both marriages.

and there is possibly another two children as well as Leslie John, born after 1911 Census

Births Sep 1912
Pring Harold S Kitch Chard 5c 591

Births Mar 1917
Pring Albert P Kitch Chard 5c 475

This is possibly Ruth's birth

Births Jun 1865
Kitch Ruth Chard 5c 525

Many thanks for the info - some of which I knew, but the information regarding James' first marriage is priceless. Working our way back down the A303 ! Still wondering about connections to the PRING family in Awliscombe !!!
Only ever met IVY LILLIAN in her dotage but not very forthcoming with information. She was married to an Ilminster man named BAKER and she died about 10 years ago. Nice lady but mad as a box of frogs !!!

The marriage certificates should give you their fathers details and you should be able to find the families in previous census.

on freebmd.org.uk site it lists Taunton, Chard & Honiton as Devon and has Taunton & Chard are also listed as Somerset.

They are not far from each other so there is a possibility of the two Pring families being related.

I also discovered a Keitch family with Ruth born 1865 Whitelacking, next suburb to Ilmister on the census, could be a possibility for Ruth's family


1871 England Census about Ruth Keitch
Name: Ruth Keitch
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Willm Keitch
Mother's name: Elizabeth Keitch
Gender: Female
Where born: Whitelackington, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Ilminster
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration district: Chard
Household Members:
Name Age
Willm Keitch 34, head, 1837, St Nicholas Combe Somerset Occ: Laborer
Elizabeth Keitch 28, wife, 1843, Ilmister
**Ruth Keitch 6, daugh, b1865
Mary Jane Keitch 2, daugh, b1869 Ilmister
Martha S Keitch 1,daugh, b1870 Ilmister
Matilda Keitch 6 Months, daugh, b1870 Ilmister

The following is the 1881 Census but it doesn't make a lot of sense.

1881 England Census about William Keitch
Name: William Keitch
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Eliza Keitch
Gender: Male
Where born: Ilminster, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: White Lackington
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street address: Whitebridge
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Farm Laborer
Registration district: Chard

Household Members:
Name Age
William Keitch 50
Eliza Keitch 42
Martha Keitch 25
John Keitch 7
Anna Keitch 6
Walter Keitch 2

children all born Whitelacking Somerset

This could possibly be Annie

Births Mar 1875
KITCH Hannah Chard 5c 450


Ruth is on 1881 Census as Servant with Thomas & Maria Coleman, Thomas is a farmer of 34 acres.

1881 England Census about Ruth Kitch
Name: Ruth Kitch
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relationship to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Ilminster, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Broadway
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street address: West St
Occupation: Serv Domestic
Registration district: Chard

Many thanks for that. The information does seem a bit confusing, especially with the possibility of the mis-spelling of the KITCH/ KEITCH surname. More digging to be done for sure, but initially concentrating on the PRING side for now.

Incidentally, have come across something peculiar.
In the 1901 and 1911 census James gives his age as 27 and 37, and Ruth and Annie's age as 35 and 36 respectively.This ties up with what we know, however, the marriage of James and Ruth m.19-12-1893 lists their ages as 21 and 24 !!! Don't know why, but might have had something to do with James really being 19, but that doesn't explain away why Ruth's age doesn't tie up either. The marriage certificate also lists John as James' father and his occupation as Market Gardener, but the PRING name was quite widespread over the Blackdown hills and could even drift eastwards into Dorset.

Did you get a copy of the James Pring & Annie Kitch marriage 1904 to compare the details.

Changes to ages happens all the time, makes interesting research.

This looks like a possible for James Pring's family


1881 England Census about John Pring
Name: John Pring
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Jane Pring
Gender: Male
Where born: Broadway, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Broadway
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street address: The Hare Road
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Market Gardner
Registration district: Chard
Sub-registration district: Ilminster

Household Members:
Name Age
John Pring 42,Head,
Jane Pring 42, wife b1839 Stoke St Gregory Somerset
Sarah Elizabeth Pring 16, daug, 1865 Ilminster (Sept 1865 Chard)
Anne Jane Pring 14, daug, 1867, West Monkton, (Jun 1867 Chard)
John Pring Pring 13, son, 1868, Bristol (2nd name Percy)
Hannah Pring 11, daug, 1870 Broadway (Sept 1871 Chard)
James Pring 8, son, 1873(2 possible Mar & Sept 1873 Chard)
Eithel Pring 6, daug, 1875 (Jun 1876 Chard)
Nelly Pring 4, daug, 1877, (Sep 1877 Chard as Nellie)
Charles Pring 2, son, 1879 (Dec 1878 Chard)
Bessie Pring (details omitted 8/12 1880) (Sept 1880 Chard)

Children from Hannah to Bessie all born Broadway Somerset,

Dates in brackets possible birth records from freebmd website. Couldn't find John Percy

1871 Census


1871 England Census about John Pring
Name: John Pring
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Pring
Gender: Male
Where born: Broadway, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Broadway
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration district: Chard
Sub-registration district: Ilminster

Address: Forest, Hare

Household Members:
Name Age
John Pring 34. Occ: Labourer
Jane Pring 33
Sarah Elizabeth Pring 7
Anne Jane Pring 3
John Pring 2

Births Sep 1864
PRING Sarah Elizabeth Chard 5c 491

Sorry typo on date for Sarah on previous post should be 1864 not 1865, and Ann Jane possibly registered as Jane.




This could possibly be the marriage for John & Jane
Marriages Sep 1861

PRING John Wellington Som 5c 615 S
Venner Mary Jane Wellington Som 5c 615


1861 census for John

1861 England Census about John Pring
Name: John Pring
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: 1838
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Wellington, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Wellington
Ecclesiastical parish: Bath and Wells
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Occ: Servant - Carter

a copy of Sarah's birth should give you her mothers maiden name

Didn't think of checking James and Annies marriage certificate - duh! Can you tell I'm new to this ? The ages on the census records are all over the place, which doesn't help with this research either !!!
Was having problems with the BMD and census websites yesterday as they've been updating their servers. I'll see what else pops up.
Don't suppose you want the job of family researcher - you're doing great so far!! Only kidding. You have been more than helpful and if we should ever meet up I'll owe you at least a pint. Many thanks again.
Les