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A connection between the two areas goes back to the first (brief) settlement of Victoria by the British Government near Sorrento in 1803. David Collins was in charge and used lack of fresh water as an excuse to relocate to Hobart where he would be less under the thumb of the Governor in Sydney.

One convict who was not relocated was William Buckley who had escaped and walked through Rosebud and around the Bay. The aborigines near Geelong thought he was a ghost, as their belief was that dead aborigines were white, and took him in as one of their own.

The next white men that Buckley saw, 32 years later, were lookouts posted at Indented Head near Portarlington by John Batman, including Jemmy Gumm (after whom Gumm's Corner at Keilor was named.) Some of the aborigines were plotting to murder them and Buckley's warning (in a language almost forgotten) saved their lives.

The next two connections involve the Cairns and Jennings families, original purchasers of Hindhope Estate lots.

In 1852, Boneo pioneer, Robert Cairns came out with his wife Mary (nee Drysdale) and her family. No prizes for guessing where the Drysdales settled. Some of Robert's relatives appear (from trove) to have also been involved on the west side of the bay. Two of Robert's relatives gained their nicknames because of their involvement at Rosebud, Back Road Bob of Fernvilla near Bayview Rd and Rosebud Ted.

George Jennings (Dod) was born at Drysdale in 1857 and playedfooty for Geelong in the 1870's. He married Hannah Wiffen in 1879 and they had seven children. Affected by the 1890's depression he lost his land as so many did and the family became nomads, farming at Flinders (where his son married Catherine Tuck), Cranbourne and Camperdown, before settling at Kariah in 1914. This 212 acre farm fronted Dundas St, Browns Rd and Weeroona St. After onion growing failed, the family changed to dairying, later expanding into Rosebud. The wooden statue on the east corner of Rosebud Pde (outside the former dairy) gives some extra detail mentioning the later dairy site at Jennings Court (Melway169 K7.)

Other connections between the two sides of the bay involve the wooden boat building Laccos, William Ferrier (hero of the La Bella tragedy at Warrnambool in 1905), both subjects of my journals, the east side fishermen dispatching their catches to Melbourne by rail from Queenscliff and several pioneer fishermen at Flinders coming from Queenscliff.

Joe Peters the black fiddler, a native of the Cape Verde Islands off the westernmost point of Africa also moved across the bay from Rosebud. Many natives of this Portugese territory were involved in lime burning on both sides of the bay.


Information about crown allotment 14, section A,Wannaeue, the farms (Hindhope, The Thicket) and the subdivision of Hindhope can be found in my EARLY ROSEBUD and HINDHOPE ESTATE (Part 1) journals.

The dates below come from title documents and addresses from the 1919 assessment.

Lots 36-39 fronted Boneo Rd,each having frontages just over 50 feet. They now comprise the car park over McCombe St from Red Rooster and Gloria Jeans. Much of Charlie Burnham's lot 39 has been taken for the left turn lane from Boneo Rd,obviously the reason Red Rooster relocated from that site.

Lots 36 and 37, adjoining the fishing gear and furniture/giftware shops, had a frontage of 107 feet 4 inches and the title was transferred from the developer,Arthur A.Thomas to Norman Pern of Fairfield, N.S.W. on 14-1-1915.
Norm also bought lots 30 and 31 (discussed in part 1) and was assessed on all four lots in 1919.

Lot 38 had a frontage of 53 feet 8 inches,practically to the McCombe St kerb where cars turn left. The title was transferred to William Thomas Charge (whose address in 1919 I forgot to record)on 16-5-1916.

Lot 39 had frontages of 53 feet 5 inches to Boneo Rd and 220 feet 10 inches to the north side of McCombe St. Charles Burnham gained title to this block on 31-3-1926. Charles and his brother, Walter, were fishermen who moved from Sorrento to Rosebud in about 1913. Walter built a house on the foreshore at the end of Boneo Rd and the brothers built a jetty from ti-tree nearby. This jetty appealed to a teenaged Arthur Boyd, who became a famed artist and the 1995 Australian of the Year. Arthur painted the jetty from the east and from the west. Photos of the jetty can be seen in Peter Wilson's ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD which is available for loan. One shows Arthur's painting and the other Lois Burnham (Walter's daughter and Peter's mother) sitting on the jetty as a youngster.

Steve Burnham's website contains Vin Burnham's recollections of Rosebud in the early days. Click on ABOUT THE FAMILY.

McCOMBE ST BLOCKS (North side.)
All blocks to First Avenue have frontages to McCombe St of 50 feet except for lot 70 which was only 32 feet 9 inches wide. Many blocks are now part of the car park so I will describe what they adjoin in lots 1-33, such as the Op Shop etc.

40 7-9-1915 David Phillips Brunswick
41 7-9-1915 David Phillips Brunswick
42 9-1-1948 Jessie Elizabeth Lightfoot ---
43 9-1-1948 J.E.Lightfoot ---
44 Perhaps trans. to Denzal Clyde Victor Purser 3-7-1954 and sold 13-8-1958./ Chas Cairns,Boneo 29, 45.
45 1-3-1916 Robert Cairns the Younger / Forsyth and Sons lots 28,45,46.
46 8-2-1915. Annie Cath. Anderson / Forsyth and Sons
47 9-8-1923 Ethel May Short --- /Not assessed
48 3-7-1918 Mary Ann Peatey *1 /Not assessed
49 12-2-1937 Margaret Emma Price Stone*2 /Mrs S.R.Stone, Richmond,49,50
50 12-2-1937 M.E.P.Stone /As above.
51 18-6-1946 JENNINGS (Gladys Iris, Fred Rowland,Walt. Herb., Gord. Rob.) / Not assessed
52 10-8-1923 Lily McBean --- / Not assessed
53 10-8-1923 Lily McBean --- / Not assessed
54 11-5-1920 Charles Roger Marsh /J.N? Marsh,Pt Ormond>Brighton Nth, 54, 55, BDS.
--------------------ROSE ST. ---------------
55 16-9-1920 William Dixon Marsh /As above
56 18-8-1941 Georgina Emma Saunders --- / Not assessed
57 Probably unsold and transferred to executors of A.A.Thomas on/after 5-2-1945.No.on plan but not on transfer details.
58 7-2-1922 Margaret Agnes Mott --- / Not assessed
59 27-7-1929 Benjamin John Forsyth --- / Not assessed
60 27-7-1929 Dorothy Pretoria McAlister --- / Not assessed A sis.of Ben and Norm?
61 27-7-1929 Norman Forsyth --- / Not assessed
62 6-6-1950 John Hector Beattie --- / Marg. Ethel Beattie,Brunswick.
63(& 10) 4-9-1915 Harriet Harvie --- / Margaret Harvey, Northcote, 10,63
64 18-12-1917 Annie Catherine Sampson --- / E.Martin*3, Coburg> Rosebud, 7, 8 &BDS, 64,65
Annie Catherine Sampson of St Kilda was assessed on 9 and 64!
65 8-6-1924 John McGregor Dawson --- / E.Martin above
66 8-6-1924 J.McG. Dawson --- Due to the duplication re 64,E.Martin probably had 65 & 66.
67 10-12-1919 Susannah Hansford Canterbury (Could mean in Melb. but possibly Blairgowrie.)
68 23-2-1921 Gladys Ethel Morton --- / Not assessed
69 23-2-1921 Gladys Ethel Morton --- /Not assessed
70 1-9-1916 James Dunstan Page Armadale Frontage of only 32 feet 9 inches.

The distance between Pt Nepean Rd and McCombe St was 400 feet so the depth of blocks fronting each was 200 feet. Some Pt Nepean Rd lots seem to have been re-subdivided with some buildings straddling allotment boundaries. As many of the McCombe St lots are now car parking, I will describe what I can see 200 feet away at the back of the Pt Nepean Rd blocks in order to describe their locations. I will start from Rose St and work west and east to determine the 50 foot frontage blocks, the eastern end of Charlie Burnham's lot 39 and the western boundary of lot 70. Apart from those at each end, the lots have 50 foot frontages (roughly 17 paces); this might help if you have difficulty finding some of the boundaries, such as wall joins in the Safeway building.

Boneo Rd.
Lots 36 to 39, each with a frontage to Boneo Rd of about 53 foot, had side boundaries from 142 feet 11 inches (at the boundary with Total Tackle, Jepara and Panini) to 220 feet 10 inches (the McCombe St frontage of lot
39.)The increase in depths was due to the differing angles of the lot boundaries and Boneo Rd. Lot 39 is now the left turn lane (W) and the east-west section to the bend near the car park entry (E). The eastern boundary of lots 36-9 backs onto the Panini building 10 feet west of its eastern corner.

40. Backs onto the car parking outside the chemist etc and goes west 10 feet past the Panini corner.
41. Backs onto car park two way road (W)and plantation east to no entry sign (E).
42. Backs onto western 2m of Safeway building and entry drive from Pt Nepean Rd, to the NO ENTRY sign.
43. Backs onto Safeway wall from redundant air conditioner downpipe (W) to wall join under floodlight(E).
44. Backs onto Safeway building between two wall joins under floodlight (W)and 24 feet (8 paces)west of loading dock yellow pole (E).
45. Backs onto Safeway loading dock ramp (E) and the dock building to bend in wall (E).
46. Backs onto loading dock building from wall bend/join (W) to east end of Safeway.
47. Backs onto Op Shop (W)and the (Nepean) arcade (E).
48. Backs onto Rosebud Discounts (W) and shop 2, 1395 Pt Nepean Rd (presently vacant) (E).
49. Backs onto Rosebud Homemakers and entry drive to east kerb.
50. Backs onto east kerb of entry drive (W) and Paint Place yard (E).
51. Backs onto yard with David Short signs on fence.
52. Backs onto Roller door (W) and Founds shop front. (E). The roller door part was formerly a separate shop.
53. Backs onto yard full of containers and mattresses, obviously the part of Founds rendered at the front.
54. West corner Rose St, backs onto Cash Deal.
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55. East corner Rose St, contains Bermuda Bar, and Rose St shops (all vacant.)
56. Barry Plant and car park.
57. Sportspower and car parking.
58. Aldi loading dock.
59. Rest of Aldi building east to line of spouting.
60. East to drain pit cover in nature strip 2m west of Aldi entry/Exit drive.
61. The eastern quarter of the Aldi property to the boundary with First Choice.
62. Adjoins back of western part of First Choice.
63. 14 McCombe St (Rosebud Chiropractic Centre.)
64. West half of vacant land behind Rosebud Square.
65. East half of vacant land behind Rosebud Square.
66. 8 McCombe St to middle of driveway between it and a line of 4 flats.
67. The four flats.
68. Barkies entry drive and the western 3 parking bays.
69. The next six parking bays,perhaps another half bay.Contains telecommunication tower and enclosure.
70. First Avenue corner. Roughly the 4 eastern parking spaces, Nepean Autos and Hotline Electrics.

*1. Mary Ann Peatey married Jack Peatey on 4-11-1884. Their children, John Edward,William Henry,Susan and George were all born in Gippsland and shortly after they returned to Rosebud to live on the beachfront in 1894, twins Mary and Ann were born. They called their house Beachside; it was on the east side of Peatey's Creek which is now a drain running under Murray Anderson Rd. As Jack was almost an invalid,using a walking stick carved for him by Fred Vine, it was mainly Mary Ann who established Rosebud's first produce supply on the Rosebud Fishing Village block. Jack's health improved and he took out fishing parties in his huge coutta boat, one of his best customers being Edward Campbell a Melbourne City Councillor who served as Lord Mayor and had a holiday house on former Lacco land where the Banksia Point development is proposed. Jack and Mr Wong perpetrated a hoax on the Rosebud folk according to Jim Dryden. He pretended his eyes were turned and Mr Wong of the Chinaman's Creek market-gardening family made a hood with slits where his eyes should focus, effecting a miraculous cure.

Jack's parents, George and Susan Peatey, had been settlers on the Survey (Safety Beach area)by 1858 and later bought 100 acres at the east corner of Harrisons Rd (Melway 160 K6) now occupied by wineries. It proved too wet for farming and with a loan from Nelson Rudduck they purchased lot 76 of Woolcott's subdivision,just over 2 acres at the south corner of Jetty Rd and McDowell St. Here they grew onions and spuds from 1888 after repaying the loan.The house burnt down in 1912 and Susan moved to Beachside where she died in 1914.Susan was involved as a midwife in what was thought to be the first birth of a white child in Rosebud, delivering Henry and Ann Bucher's Rose Ann on 8-9-1867. ("Pine Trees and Box Thorns" Rosalind Peatey; Jim Dryden.)

Mary Ann would have bought the Hindhope Block as the best way of utilising the profits from Beachside about which an unknown pioneer (possibly Isabelle Moresby)has noted on the map "Peatys, cows:dairy,poultry slept in trees". Now that's what I call free-range!

*2. The Stones of Richmond may have been related to Fred Vine's wife and daughter. Fred's loyal missus was obviously a widow with a young daughter when Fred married her. After her death Fred moved to a fisherman's hut on the foreshore at Dromana, roughly opposite Seacombe St. The stepdaughter answered to Mary Stone or Mary Vine and Peter Wilson devoted a chapter of ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD to "Polly" Vine, including an excellent photo of her. Fred's move and Mary using Mary B.Stone as her official name probably both arose from the same cause, which is better left unsaid but can be discovered on trove. Some wonderful photos of Dromana fishermen in Colin McLear's A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA include Fred.

*3. E.Martin was probably the proprietor of a shop on the west corner of Boneo Rd (which became known as Martin's Corner.) He probably bought the 5 acre site which now includes the Blue Mini Cafe,a couple of shops to the west and possibly south to the Super Clinic. He may have sold the Hindhope blocks soon after the 1919 assessment to buy the Martin's Corner Land and build his shop which was established in about 1920 according to the late Ray Cairns.

The photo from Steve Burnham's website was taken from the west side of Boneo Rd, probably from near the site of the present Super Clinic. It shows Charlie Burnham's house fronting Boneo Rd and the fish shop behind it on the north side of McCombe St. Red Rooster later occupied the site but was moved to the present location so the left turn lane could be built. On the right hand side of McCombe St is a Hindhope sign.

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In 1954, James Elam was the first to demonstrate experimentally that cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) was a sound technique and, with Dr. Peter Safar, he demonstrated its superiority to previous methods. Peter Safar wrote the book ABC of resuscitation in 1957. In the United States, it was first promoted as a technique for the public to learn in the 1970s.

John Townsend(or perhaps his father) may have been one of the first people in Victoria to save a life using mouth to mouth resuscitation about 70 years before the technique was introduced in Australia.

In A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA, Colin McLear wrote the following about John Townsend.
P. 74. John Townsend (1840-1918) seems to have been a jack-of-all-trades. At one time he farmed where a Rosebud golf course is now situated on the slopes of Arthurs Seat. He also built houses and ran an early store in Dromana,in what had been George McLear's butchers shop. He lived on the (south)corner of Ligar and McCulloch Street opposite the State School,in what old-timers call Townsend's. The old house still stands. John is believed to have shot the last dingo on the Peninsula on the Anderson property (Barragunda)at Boneo (Cape Schanck).

John helped Simon,commonly called "Simon the Belgian" fence his land on the side of Arthurs Seat.

P.84.Charlie Dyson married a daughter of John Singleton and one of their children became Mrs John Townsend.(Does this tie in?)

P.120. John Townsend was one of the bondsmen for a loan of 300 pounds to build St Mark's Church of England in Dromana.

P. 126. An entry in George McLear's notebooks in 1880 advises that Townsend paid 35 pounds for the church....John Townsend was a man of many parts, among them a sometime builder. Perhaps he had a contract to re-erect the church...
(The above relates to the relocation of the Methodist Church from a site in Heales St to the Esplanade.)

Harold Wilson, eldest son of Mr and Mrs H. W. Wilson. of M'Culloch street, Dromana, had a very narrow escape from drowning last Saturday week. It appears the little fellow, in company with a small lad named Stanley Evans, was playing on the banks of a waterhole close to where Mr. Wilson is erecting his new slaughter house, and in some way he slipped into the hole, which had at least 5 feet of water in it. The other boy being un- able to render his unfortunate play mate any assistance, had the presence of mind to run down to where Mr Townsend and the Messrs Wilsons were at work, and informed them what had happened. They immediately hurried to the hole. Seeing no trace of the child, the father plunged in, and succeeded in bringing to the surface what he considered was the lifeless body of his son. However, Mr Townsend,who acted with judgment,was quickly at work, vigorously blowing his warm breath into the little fellow's lungs, until he slowly began to regain consciousness. Mr.G.M'Lear, who lives close to where the accident happened, was sent for, and rendered valuable assistance, but had it not been for the artificial respiration resorted to by Mr Townsend, it is doubtful whether the boy would have recovered.(P.5, Mornington Standard,10-12-1904.)

The wikipedia entry for Mouth to mouth resuscitation describes how it was developed in 1957 and was promoted in the U.S.A in the 1970's.

John Townsend's grants near Rosebud were crown allotments 31D and 31C,section B in the parish of Wannaeue. The former, consisting of 37 acres 1 rood 15 perches is bounded by Bayview/Old Cape Schank Rd,roughly the north-south part of Leura Crescent and Waterfall Gully Rd. The latter, of 100 acres and 2 perches adjoined it on the east and extended to the full length of Rosebud Avenue.(Melway 170 G 4-5.)

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John Townsend


Gender: male
Birth: 1865 Dromana, Vic, Australia (More...)
Death: 1923 Melbourne, Vic, Australia (More...)

Father: John Townsend
Mother: Allison Mitchell
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Partner: Susannah Caroline Hanson (1864-1906)
Marriage: 1887 Dromana, Vic, Australia (More...)

Elsie Townsend (1890-)
Jessie Allison Townsend (1892-)
Ellen Carolina Townsend (1893-)
John Leonard Townsend (1894-1951)
Arthur Gould Townsend (1899-)

It is possible that Susannah Caroline Hanson was a niece of Christian Hanson,who in 1887 was first assessed on one of William Hopcraft's grants in the parish of Balnarring on the east side of Tucks Rd at its northern end.
Hec Hanson's MEMOIRS OF A LARRIKIN makes it clear that she was not Christian's daughter. Her father or brother was possibly Charles Hanson,who with John Townsend was a member of an early dramatic company in Dromana, the Black Gulls. (Harry Wilson,probably the father of the boy saved by John Townsend, and George Townsend were also member.) The Townsends of Mornington may be related.

[Present, Crs Downward, (president), Baldry, Brown, Griffiths, Hurley, Wilson and Stanley.
The Council sat as a Revision Court for the purpose of revising the voters' lists. The applications of T. M.
Dorley. and John A. Crichton were entertained. Those of Alfred P.Beecher and Charles Hanson, were disallowed.
(P.2, Mornington Standard, 4-8-1892.)

EXCERPT FROM "Old Peninsula Days, Plays and Players"
Standard (Frankston, Vic. : 1939 - 1949) Thursday 21 February 1946 p 9 Article.

Mr. Harry Wilson. As a ? to these items was "Uncle Tom's Cabin in Five Minutes," the parts? in which were played by Mr. John Townsend (Simon Legree),Mr Chas. Hanson (Uncle Tom), and Mr Fred. Mellor (Little Eva).

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Hello XXX,
Can you help, do you have any idea where the Shoreham creamery was, I believe it worked in conjunction with the Mornington butter factory?

Best Wishes

(By Our Special Reporter.)
On the road from Flinders to the Bittern railway station, which is so much travelled by holiday makers in the summer season, the peaceful little valley on the banks of Stony Creek always attract considerable attention. For natural advantages this spot would be hard to beat, and the owners of the trim homesteads and rich well grassed farms in the vicinity have every reason to congratulate themselves. Here, in the vicinity of creeks which have never failed to provide a plentiful water supply throughout the longest drought on record, it is difficult to imagine the desolation and havoc which has existed in many parts of the State during the past season.

On the southern bank of the creek, and on the opposite side of the main road to the Shoreham creamery,
has about 151 acres of land. The thick sward of good grass which, on this and the adjoining properties, was little effected by the late spell of dry weather, would certainly be a feast to the eyes of a farmer from the northern parts of the State. Dairying occupies Mr Byrne's attention, and beyond growing the usual fodder crops he does not engage extensively in cultivation. A small paddock of rich deep chocolate soil some distance from the homestead yielded (on the estimate of several local farmers) nearly 3 tons of hay to the acre, which considering that the past season was counted one of the worst ever known in the district, can certainly be said to be a good crop.
Mr Byrne has also 136 acres detached from the homestead block.
On the other side of Stony Creek, Mrs James Byrne has about 310 acres (etc.) (P.4, Mornington Standard, 23-5-1903.)

Stony Creek is the boundary between the parishes of Balnarring (east) and Flinders (west.) The Merricks Station was at Melway 192 F9, so the road between Flinders and the station was that known as the Frankston-Flinders Rd which crosses Stony Creek at Melway 256 E8.

The Byrnes were granted much land east of Stony Creek but no grants consisted of, or totalled, nearly 151 acres, or could have been over the road from anything south of the creek.

The Flinders parish map shows that James Byrne was granted crown allotment 22 of section A, consisting of 151 acres 2 roods and 18 perches. Having a 581 metre frontage to Tucks Rd and extending east to Stony Creek it was at Melway 256 B-D, 6, and the top half of 7. The northern boundary went from the Tucks Rd bend in 256 B6 to the south west corner of the Guides' "Iluka" Camp.

Between this grant and Higgins Lane (the northern boundary of Martin Higgins' c/a 24) was Edmond Riley's c/a 23 with the "road to the station" in Melway 256 C 9 (part) and 8 (to the creek) being the southern two thirds of its eastern boundary and Stony Creek the northern third (to where the creek intersects the left side of E7.)

The correspondent was slightly out in his description because James Byrne's grant fell about 100 metres short of fronting the road to the station; he probably thought the fence divided paddocks rather than properties.

Bounded by the road to the station on the west (and thus across the road "to the station" from what the correspondent took to be Michael Byrne's land), Stony Creek on the north east (enabling the creamery to be correctly described as being south of the creek) and Higgins Lane east of the main road were crown allotments 8 and 9 (of the township of Balnarring.)

Crown allotment 8 of 2 acres 3 roods and 7 perches fronting the creek crossing was granted to E.Riley and c/a 9 of 4.3.30 fronting the north side of Higgins Lane was granted to M.Higgins,both grants being issued on 9-7-1869.

Thank goodness I used a magnifying glass to read the dates! The southern boundary of c/a 9 was not Higgins Lane but a line bearing e/n/e from the corner with c/a 9A between this and the lane, consisting of 1.3.10 and granted to J.Bayne on 19-9-1871. The Baynes had much land near Joseph Simpson's Seaview and when Shoreham Rd was realigned the old course was named after the family (Melway 191 A 6-8.)

The creamery operated from about 1898.
Mornington Standard (Vic. : 1889 - 1908) Saturday 14 May 1904 Edition: MORNING. p 2 Article
... the genial manager of the Shoreham creamery, afforded his friends in the district an opportunity of ... happy pair,- Mr M. Higgins, on behalf the suppliers of the creamery and other friends of M'r ... presentation, Mr Higgins remarked that about six -years ago, when the creamery was opened, the company could ... 421 words

The manager of the creamery, Joseph Turner, was the son of James Turner, a councillor of the Frankston and Hastings Shire, who is mentioned in my SARAH WILSON or GEORGE YOUNG journals (information from Petronella Wilson's GIVING DESTINY A HAND.) James was granted c/a 51 and 48 of the parish of Bittern (MELWAY 153 E-H 9-10) and his father c/a 29, 28AB and 27B on the part of Loders Rd now covered by the Devil Bend Reservoir.

In accordance with the description, it can be stated with fair certainty that the Shoreham Creamery was at the intersection of Melway 256, E8, E9, F8 and F9, on all or part of the land bounded by the Frankston -Flinders Rd, Stony Creek and Higgins Lane. This location is:
(a) (almost) across the road from Michael Byrne's grant of 151 acres;
(b) on the south bank of Stony Creek;
(c) across (west of) the creek from Mrs James Byrne's " about" 310 acres. Her land probably consisted of c/a 62, Balnarring granted to James Byrne, c/a 60 granted to Martin Byrne and 61A granted to J.Byrne, which, consisting of 134.3.8, 129.2.33 and 50.2.38, total 313 acres 0 roods 39 perches (about 310.)

P.S.1. There are no 136 acre crown allotments nearby in the parishes of Flinders and Balnarring so it is possible that Edmund Riley had subdivided c/a 23 and Edmund had bought part of it near the Stony Creek crossing which would explain the reporter's apparent error. It is also possible that he had bought some of Henry Tuck's Manton's Creek pre-emptive right.

2. It is possible that the reporter was not saying that the creamery was on the south bank of the creek but in this case he should have said that Michael Byrne's 151 acres were on the other side of the roadand the creek from the creamery.If that was what he meant,the creamery would have been on c/a 1-3 and 5-7 of the Balnarring Township granted to the Baynes and c/a 4 granted to William Allison Blair, a lime merchant who owned much land in the parishes of Wannaeue and Nepean. This part of the township was bounded by Byrne Rd on the north west, Prout Webb Rd and the creek.

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Crown allotment 14, Wannaeue of just over 114 acres is bounded by Eastbourne , Boneo, and Pt Nepean Rds and First Avenue (Melway 170 B2.) The grantee, Hugh Glass of Flemington, acquired c/a 16 as well by 1964 but scab among his millions of sheep and losses on the private Essendon railway caused his Wannaeue holding to fall from 231 to 100 acres by the time of his "accidental" overdose. The property seems to have been subdivided by Hugh's creditors into farms of 29+29+20+20+16 acres. The first two were consolidated as Hindhope by Eleanore and Gregory Brennan Rigg and included all Hope St house blocks and 50 First Avenue. The last three became Ramsay and Nora Couper's The Thicket, now occupied by The Drive, Warranilla, Woombi,Koorong etc.

The farming history of Hindhope is covered in my EARLY ROSEBUD journal, as will be some details of the farm's subdivision. I have listed there the surnames of all of the purchasers listed in the title documents. I had originally thought that I would not be able to specify the lots (or how many) bought by each but with a bit of investigation on the ground, I will actually be able to tell their descendants which shop or house site they bought.

The first part of the estate to be sold was the area between the highway and the strangely-named McCombe St. Lots 1-35 fronted the highway and extended roughly halfway to McCombe St which was named after Carrum farmer, John McComb, the last person to farm Hindhope before it was subdivided. Lots 70 -39 fronted McCombe St with lots 36 to 38 fronting only Boneo Rd.
Lot 1 was a triangular block at the corner of First Avenue that has a building to match its shape. Its highway frontage is 80 feet 2 inches but its back boundary is practically nil,only six feet. At the First Ave/McCombe St corner there is also a nearly triangular block,lot 70, with a frontage to the latter of only 32 feet 9 inches but its northern boundary is 106 feet 5 inches. It houses the electrical business, Nepean Auto and a small section of the First Avenue car park. As can be seen through the mesh fence,lot 70 adjoins lots 2 and 3 and that tiny back boundary of lot 1. There are also non rectangular lots at the Boneo Rd end. That is because the Government roads (Jetty and Boneo)were magnetic north-south and the Avenues were made parallel but the"Beach Road" does not run magnetic east-west.

Lots 2-18 extend west from lot 1 to Hope St, at right angles to the highway, with front and back boundaries of 50 feet. Past Hope St lots 19-31 are also rectangular with 50 foot frontages. Lots 32 and 33 only have a combined frontage of 50 feet and I have a feeling that they comprise the car park between the frontage of Safeway and the chemist etc fronting Boneo Rd. The Boneo Rd shops occupy lots 34 and 35.

Fronting McCombe St , west of lot 70 (Nepean Auto etc) the rectangular lots 69-55, with 50 foot frontages, extended west to Hope St and lots 54 to 40 (now entirely car parking) of the same shape and dimensions went 50 feet past the point where McCombe St bends to meet Boneo Rd at a right angle. This alteration to the end of McCombe St must be the reason that Red Rooster had to move from the north corner of McCombe St (on Charlie Burnham's lot 39, which the road now runs through.) I have vague recollections of McCombe St running its original course, Red Rooster on the north corner with McEwans (later Bunnings) at the west end of the Plaza and Coles/the post office at the east entrance. (I remember even earlier, mid to late 1960's, spending a holiday at Hindhope Park on the site of Rosebud Plaza.) There are photos of Hindhope Park and the footy ground on the Village Green on Steve Burnham's website.

North of Charlie Burnham's block (which had a McCombe St frontage of 220 feet 10 inches )were lots 38 (53'8' frontage) and 36-37 (107'4" frontage)which now make up the car park between McCombe St and the fishing/ giftware/coffee shops. Lot 1 on the highway/First Avenue corner was bought (paid off and title transferred)by William Robert Patterson on 23-2-1916 and lot 39 by Charles Robert Burnham on 31-5-1926. Read about the Pattersons and Burnhams by googling: early days in rosebud, victoria l

The blocks south of McCombe St to 50 First Avenue and fronting First Avenue and Thomas St were apparently called section a and will be dealt with later. I will start with the area between McCombe St and the "Beach Road". Addresses were obtained from 1919 rates. If you need the street and house number send me a private message requesting same.

Lots 1-35 had Pt Nepean Rd frontages. Present occupancy of each lot will follow this information from titles and 1919 rates.

LOT NO.; DATE OF TITLE; PURCHASER; ADDRESS (1919) 1919 buildings/ change
First Avenue
1. 23-2-1916 Wm Rob.Patterson Cape Schanck
2 20-7-1922 Flo. Alice Whiter E.Caul.>Sandringham Mrs H.Whiter
3 16-9-1915 Eliza Ellen Ross Rosebud BDS. (SEE BELOW,NEAR END, RE "KINROSS".)
4 19-2-1915 Robert Cairns Fingal
5 19-2-1915 David Cairns Fingal
6 15-5-1926 Christie Cairns Boneo
7 7-9-1915 David Phillips Brunswick (lots 32,) E.Martin (formerly Woolcott St,)
8 7-9-1915 David Phillips Brunswick (33,40,41) (Coburg,but now Rosebud.)BDS.
9 18-12-1917 Annie Cath. Sampson St Kilda
10 7-9-1915 Harriet Harvie Northcote
11 9-7-1919 Marg. Emma Beattie Brunswick
12 19-5-1919 Mrs Mina Doran Northcote BDS.
13 27-5-1919 Henry Bucher Brighton? (C/A 17 lots) Not assessed
14 12-4-1916 John Russell Town Hall, Camberwell
15 27-5-1919 Henry Alan Bucher ? (Mrs Kathleen Waterhouse )
16 27-5-1919 Henry Alan Bucher ( South Australia.)
17 27-10-1924 Roy Cliff. Cairns Edward Cairns, Rosebud
18 27-10-1924 Leslie Edward Cairns Edward Cairns,Rosebud
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19 16-2-1921 Flo. Marguerite Bergen Bruns.>Elsternwick
20 8-12-1916 Henry Balaam EastBrunswick
21 8-12-1916 Henry Balaam EastBrunswick
22 9-3-1921 Gladys Iris Jennings Parkville>Rosebud BDS.A.M.Jennings.
23 12-2-1920 Marian Sampson Mrs Dewey,Kew.
24 20-7-1920 Clara Ada Dewey Kew? Mr Dewey.
25 17-4-1916 Edw. Jas. Wymer Coburg? Crossed out; Davis. BDS.
26 8-2-1915 Annie Calder Cook Anderson (Mrs Edith Trivell of Rosebud )
27 8-2-1915 A.C.C.Anderson (assessed on lots 26, 27 and BDS.)
28 1-3-1916 Robert Cairns the Younger (Forsyth and Sons,Dromana assessed on 28,45,46.)
29 Possibly trans. to Denzel Clyde Victor Purser 3-7-1954 and sold 13-8-1958.
30 19-1-1915 Norman D.Pern Fairfield, N.S.W.
31 19-1-1915 Norman D.Pern Fairfield, N.S.W.
32 7-9-1915 David Phillips Brunswick
33 7-9-1915 David Phillips Brunswick
34 19-2-1915 Robert Cairns Not assessed.
35 19-2-1915 Robert Cairns Not assessed.

As a careful measurement of the 80 foot 2 inches frontage of lot 1 extended halfway across the Salvos store and my pacing from there left me with an extra 50 foot frontage to Rose St,this is going to take some time.
Lot 1. 2/1243A Pt. Nepean Rd, the closed Heavenly Gelati and the Salvos Store to the east edge of the doorway.
Lot 2. The Salvos doorway and Anytime Fitness.
Lot 3. The eastern (roughly )two fifths of the Barkie's building; the loading dock portion east of the protruding wall at the rear.
Lot 4.The Barkie's building between the middle of the rear entry and the protruding wall to the east.
Lot 5. Between the middle of the driveway between Rosebud Carpets and Barkie's to the middle of Barkie's rear entry (roughly the AP in HOME APPLIANCES at the front.)
Lot 6. West half of the above driveway and Rosebud Carpets.
Lot 7. G.I.O. and Salon 16 wing of Rosebud Square.
Lot 8. Car Parking in Rosebud Square.
Lot 9. West wing of Rosebud Square.
Lot 10. East half First Choice.
Lot 11. West half First Choice.
Lot 12. Mainly the Aldi through-drive to McCombe St.
Lot 13. West half of car parking beside Aldi.
Lot 14. East half of Aldi building to line of spouting.
Lot 15. West half of Aldi building.
Lot 16. No. 1337 (White Lady and After Care.)
Lot 17. East half Toyota.
Lot 18. West half Toyota.

ROSE ST TO BONEO RD. (All of these to lot 31 have 50 foot frontages, roughly 17 paces.)
Lot 19. No.1355 (Cash Deal.)
Lot 20. The rendered east part of Founds.
Lot 21. The western,exposed brick part of Founds.
Lot 22. 1375 (Peninsula Legal Centre) and 1377 (Shorts Real Estate.)
Lot 23. Haynes Paint and 1381 (Snowball Flowers.)
Lot 24. West from skinny pavers in drive,1385 (APIA) and 1387 (Rosebud Homemakers.)
Lot 25. Driveway and Video Ezy.
Lot 26. Pt Nepean Arcade, Collette Hair and 1401 (Cartridge World.)
Lot 27. East end of Safeway to the "No Entry" door and a footpath grate.
Lot 28. From the door to a third of the way along the bus shelter outside Safeway.
Lot 29. West to the east end of the middle wooden seat outside Safeway.
Lot 30. West to the east end of wooden fence around footpath tree near the west end of the Safeway building.
Lot 31. From tree fence to plantation between Safeway car park entry and exit.
Lots 32 and 33 (90 foot frontage.) West to big gum tree at west end of car park.
Lots 34 and 35 (75 foot frontage.) Unique Impression Flowers, 1447 (Bayside Seafood, Stockdale&Leggo),
1449 (G.C.Gerbert and Wise Employment),1451 (Turning Heads Hair.)

ROSS.-On the 15th July, at his residence, "Kinross," Rosebud, Alexander John, the beloved husband of E. E. (Nellie) Ross, loving father of Alick, Norman, and Hector, youngest son of the late David and Sarah Ross, French Island,and brother of David, Rowland, and Wallace. Late of Brunswick and Richmond. Late M. T.
and 0 Company. Aged 46 years. (P.1, Argus, 16-7-1915.) Nellie was a Sidebottom. Her early days on the estate were not as happy as they might have been, the death of her mother, Sarah Ellen, in 1919 adding to her widowhood.

ALWAY-JENNINGS.-The marriage ofBetty Irene, elder daughter of Mr. and Mrs. John Alway, Hillside avenue, East
Malvern, to Frederick Rowland, youngest son of the late Mr. Walter Jennings and Mrs.G.Jennings, Rosebud, will be celebrated at St. John's Church, Finch street, East Malvern, on Monday, April 15, at 5.30 p.m. (P.10, Argus, 12-4-1946.)

Mr. G. E. Jennings, who conducts the dairy at Rosebud, and serves Rye area, contemplates carrying out extensions to his business premises in Rosebud, in the near future. When these alterations are made it will be the most modern dairy on the Peninsula. (P.6, Standard, Frankston,28-2-1946.)

Miss Ruth Ferris, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Ferris, was recently. married to Mr. Jack Jennings, youngest
son of Mr. and Mrs. Jennings, of Rosebud. The ceremony took place at the Church of England. The wedding breakfast was held at the homeof the bride's grand-parents. The honeymoon is being spent at Healesville.
(P.3, Standard, Frankston, 5-10-1944.) It is Jack's statue that stands outside the former (most modern)dairy on the east corner of Rosebud Pde.

JENNINGS (nee Gladys Mullen). On the 10th November, at Nurse McInne's private hospital,Box Hill, the wife of Walter Gordon Jennings,of "Dalgabeena," Blackburn a son (Gordon Roberts).(P.11, Argus,12-12-1914.) So that's why the Mullen assessment was to be sent to Mrs Jennings in 1919!

MULLEN.-On March l8, at Hobart, Lt.-Col. L. M. Mullen, loving brother of Gladys (Mrs. W. G. Jennings. Rosebud,
Vic). -Duty nobly done.(P.2, Argus, 20-3-1943.)

LOT 1.
I couldn't remember the name of the timber business that operated on lot 1 of the Hindhope Estate on the west corner of Pt Nepean Rd and First Avenue at Rosebud. But I knew exactly where I could find out. The answer is in the photo on page 24 of the souvenir and although not painted green in 1954, the building looks much the same now as when H.and J.Hancock were running their timber and hardware store.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Thursday 7 January 1954 p 17 Article Illustrated


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While I was transcribing the 1919-20 rates for the Hindhope Estate, A nice lady, Peggy Waldron, asked if I'd mind if she used the next microfiche reader. We struck up a conversation and she asked me if I'd heard of the Waldrons at Mornington. I hadn't and she told me that her husband's ancestor had helped to build the Mornington pier. When she told me that Thomas Waldron had land on Craigie Rd that had been Balcombe's, it didn't make sense so I grabbed the tattered Moorooduc parish map that the Mornington Peninsula Library should be ashamed of.

There it was, lots 2, 3, 4 and 23 of section 24, parish of Moorooduc. The western boundary of crown allotments 4, 3 and 2, of roughly 23,22 and 17 acres, was Dunns Rd to its present end and a bend to the south east for another 220 metres where it met Harraps Creek at the corner of the wildlife reserve in Melway 145 E 11. The eastern boundary was Harraps Creek whose course cut through the "Proposed Anglican School" and followed the north west boundary of the wildlife reserve. Crown allotment 23,of 62 acres 2 roods and 20 perches, was east of Harraps Creek, having frontages of 618 acres to Craigie Rd and 446 metres to the west side of Racecourse Rd. Its south east corner would be where Racecourse Rd and Ker-Bur-Rer Walk would intersect.

NEW INSOLVENTS. Thomas Waldron, builder, Schnapper Point.Causes of insolvency-Losses, depression in business,
and fear of arrest. Liabilities, £839 10s 7£d; assets,£760; deficiency, £79 10s 7d. Mr Moore, official
assignee. (The Star (Ballarat, Vic. : 1855 - 1864) Saturday 9 January 1864 p 3 Article.)

THIS DAY.Schnapper Point.
Sale of 125 Acres Freehold Land (10 of which are fenced in and under cultivation), together with Weatherboard House and Outbuildings, subject to Mortgage and Interest of £410.In the Insolvent Estate of Thomas Waldron.
By Order of James Moore, Esq., Official Assignee.
ALFRED BLISS has received instructions from James Moore, Esq., Official Assignee, to SELL by PUBLIC AUCTION, at tho new mart, 81 Collins street west, on Wednesday, 20th, at two o'clock, The Official Assignee's right, title, and interest inand to all that freehold land known as Mr.Waldron's Farm, situate at Schnapper Point,
containing 125 acres (16 of which are under cultivation and securely fenced), upon which is erected a four-roomed weatherboard cottage and out-buildings.
To be sold subject to tho mortgage and interest of £410. Title perfect. Terms at Sale.
(The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 20 January 1864 p 2 Advertising.)

Second meetings were held and closed in the estates of the following insolvents;-Thomas Waldron, of Schnapper Point, publican; John Paxton, of Sandhurst, publican ; and Abraham Myers, of Melbourne, dealer. Two
small debts were proved in Waldron's estate ;in the other estates no person appeared. The third meeting in each was appointed for the 22nd March. ((P.7, Argus, 18-2-1864.)

(Before W, B. Noel Esq., Chief Commissioner of Insolvent Estates.) THIRD MEETINGS,
Insolvent had been a butcher at Schnapper Point. He was present, but no creditor appeared, and the meeting closed. The official assignee reported that the principal asset, viz.125 acres at Schnapper Point, was mortgaged up to its full value. The other assets were only £10 for furniture, and £16 3s. for building materials. (The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 26 March 1864 p 7 Article.)

Third meetings were held and closed in the estates of the following Insolvents :Thomas Waldron, of Fitzroy, builder; John Paxton, of Sandhurst, publican ; Abraham Lazarus,of Melbourne, warehouseman ; George Holthaus, of Beechworth, storekeeper: David Gillespie, of Melbourne, engineer ; Cornelius O'Hara, of North Melbourne, bootmaker and Allan A. Stewart, of Spring-hill, Creswick, farmer. Some few debts were admitted
in three estates. ( The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Thursday 31 March 1864 p 6 Article.)

Ninnis v. Ada Waldron, Ninnis v. Thomas Waldron,(P.5, Argus, 7-3-1876.)

???CHERRY. - On the 27th May, at Lockington,Yorkshire, England, John Robinson, beloved brother of Mrs Waldron, Elsternwick, Mrs. M'Cann, Meta, Francis, Peter, Arthur, and Maria Cherry, in his 68th year. (By Cable).(P.1,Argus, 30-5-1898.) ???

WALDRON.-On the 31st January, at Hotham- grove, Elsternwick, Ada, wife of Thomas Waldron, builder, late of Schnapper Point, aged 78 years.
(The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 4 February 1905 p 9 Family Notices.)

?????????The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 7 February 1900 p 1 Family Notices????
WALDRON.-In loving remembrance of our be- loved brother, Thomas ...‎
Main Content
Cherry, Margaretta (Meta) (1822 - 1907)
Lockington, Yorkshire, England
Elsternwick, Victoria, Australia
© Biography by Madonna Grehan PhD, 2011.

English born Margaretta (Meta) Cherry spent twenty two years on the nursing staff of the Melbourne Lying-in Hospital and Infirmary for Diseases Peculiar to Women and Children, where she was affectionately described as 'the baby nurse' and was sufficiently respected to 'have the care of the keys' in the Matron's absence.
Margaretta Cherry worked as member of the nursing staff at the Melbourne Lying-in Hospital and Infirmary for Diseases Peculiar to Women and Children from 1867 until 1889.
Called 'Meta' by her family, Margaretta was born in Lockington, County of Yorkshire, England, to Francis Cherry and Frances Robinson. Margaretta arrived in the Colony of Victoria in June 1856, having sailed with one of her brothers and a sister aboard "Arthur the Great". These siblings joined other Cherry family members, including a married sister, Ada Waldron (née Cherry), who settled in Melbourne in 1849.
Few details of Margaretta Cherry's service at the Lying-in Hospital exist, as the records from this era are sparse, but copies of family correspondence written by Ada Waldron to her parents in Yorkshire shed some light on Nurse Cherry's role. An extract from one letter, dated April 1878, reads:
"Meta [Margaretta] has been at the Lying-in Hospital for eleven years now. I think her office there is more humble than that of Matron who is the daughter of a Doctor and was a governess; in her absence Meta has the care of the keys etc & and is looked up to. I am sorry to say that her health is not satisfactory. She suffers from palpitation and the Dr says there is valvular disease - but she has not had an attack lately, but she has aged very much the last 2 or 3 years."[1]
At the time that this letter was written, the Lying-in Hospital's Matron was Miss Emily Harvey who occupied the position of Matron from the early 1860s until mid-1882.[2] Nurse Cherry served under two other matrons during her employment: Mrs J D Cossins (1882-1885), formerly employed at "The Retreat" in Adelaide,[3] and Miss Charlotte Elizabeth Findlay from 1885.[4] The Matron's position was one of considerable responsibility and status. She was in charge of all of the Hospital's employees and was required to live at the Hospital with only a few hours away from the Hospital permitted each week.[5] Nurse Cherry must have been a trusted employee to be charged with the matron's duties.
Nurse Cherry was affectionately described as 'the baby nurse'. This nomenclature is recorded in correspondence written by Miss Margaret Howlett. Margaret Howlett's mother, Mary, undertook pupil nurse training at the Melbourne Lying-in Hospital in the year 1887, and after training, Mary worked around Wycliffe and Lake Bolac in Central Victoria. She was a respected midwife and nurse.
In the mid-1960s Margaret Howlett corresponded about her mother's work with Dr Frank Forster, a Melbourne obstetrician who had an interest in medical history. Subsequently, some of Mary Howlett's belongings: her certificate of training, white linen apron, and a family medicine chest, came to be housed in the collection of the Australian College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists. Included in the collection are Margaret Howlett's letters to Frank Forster.
In a 1965 letter to Dr Forster, Margaret Howlett recalled how, as a little girl, she visited the Lying-in Hospital where her mother was a pupil nurse. Of her visit, Margaret Howlett wrote:
"In mother's time there was a nurse Cherry at the hospital who was the "baby nurse", she used to take me round the ward and show me all the babies whose mothers were in good order for visitors. Of course I was not allowed to touch any but I liked to see them."[6]
The precise nature of Nurse Cherry's day-to-day work with the babies in the years 1867-1889 is not known because few Hospital records from this era have survived. In most cases, mothers who were well and healthy breast-fed, keeping their infant in bed with them. But if mothers were too ill to care for their infants, it was the work of the midwifery nurses to attend to them. These babies were fed by hand with a spoon or eye dropper, or sometimes a "wet nurse" was engaged to breast-feed them.[7] Consequently feeding was time-consuming work. Midwifery nurses sewed clothing for the infants under their care too.[8]
Babies whose mothers died during, or after, the birth were cared for at the Lying-in Hospital by the midwifery nurses until a suitable home could be found for them. When no-one in the family was available to take them, these infants were sent to the city's Industrial Schools and orphanages or, in some cases, private citizens made applications to the Hospital to adopt a baby.[9]
Nurse Cherry, the baby nurse, had served at the Lying-in Hospital for 20 years when, in early 1888, she was recommended to receive £5 per annum in addition to her existing salary.[10] Nurses and other staff were permitted to apply for an increase of salary at the end of each year's service, according to hospital regulations, but a raise was contingent on the Ladies Committee of Management (LCOM) approval. The nurses at that time received a salary between that of the Hospital Cook (£60) and a House Maid (£45).[11] Nurse Cherry's application for an increase of salary at the end of 1888 was not granted.[12] Despite this rebuff, Margaretta remained at The Women's for another year until late November 1889 when it appears she resigned and was 'allowed a testimonial' by the LCOM,[13] by which time she was aged 67.
Nurse Cherry maintained an association with The Women's Hospital. In 1893 the Hospital's Honorary Treasurer, Mrs Don, acknowledged Nurse Cherry's donation of 10 shillings to the charity.[14] Until she died in 1907, Margaretta Cherry lived with her extended family, at Elsternwick in Melbourne's south-east.

1 Ada Waldron, Letter Book. 15 April 1878, held by Margaret Royston. Ada copied her correspondence home into an exercise book.
2 Women's Hospital Ladies Committee of Management (WH LCOM) Minutes. 21 April 1882, RWHA 1991/7/45.
3 WH LCOM Minutes. 20 June 1882, RWHA 1991/7/45.
4 Miss Findlay resigned in 1899 when the LCOM elected to appoint a trained nurse as Lady Superintendent.
5 See
6 Correspondence from Margaret Howlett to Dr Frank Forster. 4 January 1965, Collection of the Royal Australian and New Zealand College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists, Melbourne.
7 Melbourne Lying-in Hospital and Infirmary for Diseases Peculiar to Women and Children Annual Report for 1881.
8 Madonna Grehan 2009. Professional Aspirations and Consumer Expectations: Nurses, Midwives and Women's Health, Unpublished PhD Thesis, The University of Melbourne, p.141.
9 WH LCOM Minutes. 2 June, 10 November 1882, RWHA 1991/7/45; 7 December 1888, RWHA 1991/6/12.
10 WH LCOM Minutes. 13 January 1888, RWHA 1991/6/11.
11 WH LCOM Minutes. 28 September 1888, RWHA 1991/6/11.
12 WH LCOM Minutes. 7, 21 December 1888, RWHA 1991/6/12.
13 WH LCOM Minutes. 22 November 1889, RWHA 1991/6/12.
14 Argus. 24 June 1893, p.12.
© Madonna Grehan PhD, 2011.
The author gratefully acknowledges the assistance of Margaret Royston and Anne Brick in the production of this biography.
Created: 6 October 2011, Last modified: 24 April 2012


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An hour transcribing assessments for the Hindhope Estate (1919-20) has resulted in the need for three new journals about this estate, Keith McGregor and Thomas Waldron of the parish of Moorooduc.

I have stated in my EARLY ROSEBUD journal that Keith McGregor married Mabel Adams of Hopetoun House (Wattle Place near the McCrae Car Wash site)(1), that he had a farm at Fingal near Hill Harry Cairns' Maroolaba (2), and that he lived for a time on The Thicket at Rosebud (2). I also mentioned that he sold his carrier business, which he had bought from Carrier Harry Cairns, to Mabel's brother, Billy.(3)
1. Harvey Marshall's scrapbook-Adams genealogy.
2. The late Ray Cairns. 3. The Cairns Family of Boneo, written by Peter Wilson using Ray's information.

When I interviewed Ray Cairns ten days after he turned 100, I gained only a general idea where Keith farmed at Fingal. I was slightly puzzled when Ray said that Keith did not have much land at The Thicket. Now everything is clear due to a check that I did after transcribing the Hindhope rates.

When I was transcribing the Shire of Flinders rates from August 2010 to the end of that year, Keith McGregor meant nothing to me, and I was confining myself to assessments in the parishes of Wannaeue and Kangerong. Therefore, I did not notice the following:
286. Malcolm and Keith McGregor of Cape Schanck (crossed out and replaced by somebody whose name might have been Ham (of Coolart) and a whole lot of indecipherable scribble that was supposed to describe his land. This was obviously the time that Keith moved to The Thicket,but the most immediate need was to find which land the McGregor Bros. farmed at Fingal.

1918-19. 2515. Malcolm and Keith McGregor, Cape Schanck 995 acres and buildings,crown allotments 11, 14, 15, Fingal.

These crown allotments comprised 320 acres, 355.0.33 and 320.3.32, a total of 996 acres 0 roods and 25 perches so that was as accurate as a rate collector was likely to be. Melway references for these crown allotments are:
c/a 11, fronting the east side of Truemans Rd directly opposite the St Andrews Club Gunnamatta course (same northern and southern extent)and east to include the left half of 252 J 8-9;
c/a 14, fronting the east side of Truemans Rd, 252,D-J (left half)10-11, south of c/a 11;
c/a 15, includes the right half of 252 J 10-11, the northern boundary (south boundary of Ace Hi) ending at the junction of Boneo and Old Cape Schanck Rds and the southern boundary an extension of c/a 14's to Boneo Rd.

And now to The Thicket. Crown allotment 14, Wannaeue of just over 114 acres is bounded by Eastbourne , Boneo,
and Pt Nepean Rds and First Avenue (Melway 170 B2.) The grantee, Hugh Glass of Flemington, acquired c/a 16 as well by 1964 but scab among his millions of sheep and losses on the private Essendon railway caused his Wannaeue holding to fall from 231 to 100 acres by the time of his "accidental" overdose. The property seems to have been subdivided by Hugh's creditors into farms of 29+29+20+20+16 acres. The first two were consolidated as Hindhope by Eleanore and Gregory Brennan Rigg and included all Hope St house blocks and 50 First Avenue. The last three became Ramsay and Nora Couper's The Thicket, now occupied by The Drive, Warranilla, Woombi,Koorong etc.

As mentioned previously, Keith McGregor had left Fingal by the time of the 1919 assessment. But how could he have lived in the homestead of the Thicket when Alf Rawlings was rated on the farm and buildings in 1919? Alf Rawlings (death notice in my EARLY ROSEBUD journal)had moved away. In view of Ray Cairns' belief that Keith only had the homestead (and probably a homestead block, the garden and the garage for the T Model van that he used to convey passengers to the Mornington railhead),Alf was still visiting occasionally to tend to his farm.

But where would Alf stay? The answer is provided in the 1919 rates. A note scribbled, but not in the column where land was described,saying lots 95,96 A. I did not transcribe it in 2010 because it made no sense. I now know exactly where that land was. It was at the south east corner of Hindhope, its southern boundary being that of 50 First Avenue with, its northern boundary extending 20 feet along the south side of Hope St. And why would Alf want another 1 acre 1 rood and 39 perches of land when he had 57 acres(the Thicket)one step to the south?
The house of course!

Keith McGregor was renting the Thicket homestead from Alf and Alf was renting the Hindhope homestead from Alexander Mackie Younger. When Keith and his brother left about a year later to try wheat growing (see my EARLY ROSEBUD journal), Keith did not stay away long. It may be that he and Mabel went with Malcolm to get him established, or perhaps Mabel pined for her family and friends at Rosebud.Annie Cameron of 167 Gipps St, who'd bought lots 95 and 96 on 9-1-1923, sold it to Keith McGregor of Rosebud on 12-3-1926. Keith mortgaged it to Alexander mackieYounger on 30-12-1926 and the mortgage was discharged on 31-3-1927,on which day Keith must have sold the property to Gilbert Livingstone Culliford, Gentleman, of Ivanhoe.

Well, sort of, anyway. If I hadn't collected for Red Cross,I wouldn't have asked the owner of 50 First Avenue about the house and been invited inside to see its period features, or carried out my investigations to get the old homestead heritage listed.The entry (lots95, 96)for Alf Rawlings still wouldn't have made sense, I still wouldn't have known exactly when Keith McGregor lived in the Thicket homestead and I wouldn't have known that Keith Mcgregor owned Lots 95 and 96 (the homestead block for the Hindhope Villa, 50 First Avenue.)


CJ. And T. HAM are instructed by Mr. W.Cripps to SELL, as above,
Land, comprising 101 acres 1 rood 4 perches,being Sections 18.A1 and 30C, parish of Wannaeue, having a frontage to the Cape Schanck-road, at Wannaeue, Mornington*, within four miles of Dromana. The extension of the railway to Schnapper Point must tend to benefit of this land. Title Crown grant.
(* Mornington means county of Mornington, a huge area including the peninsula, part of Gippsland and north at least as far as Mordialloc.)

Land being portion of Crown Allotment 8, parish of Moorooduc, having a frontage of 180ft. to Tanti-road by a depth of 133ft.(P.2, Argus, 5-6-1886.)

I am not sure whether the Tanti Rd land was being sold for Mr Cripps as well, but just in case: Crown allotment 8, Moorooduc of 92 acres 1 rood and 5 perches and bounded by Barkly St, Beleura Hill Rd, Nepean Highway and Tanti Creek, was granted to A.B.Balcombe.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 1 December 1877 p 2 Advertising
CJ. and T. HAM havo received Instructions from. tho executor and executrix of the estate ol thelate A. B. Balcombe, Esq , to SELL by PUBLICAUOIION, at tboir rooms, 46 Swanston street, on Thursday, 13 h December, at twolvo o'clock, the undermentioned properties, viz.: (only two pasted!)

3.All that piece of land, being Section No. 8,Moorooduc, 92 ACRES 1 ROOD 5 PERCHES,nearly opposite tho Tanti Hotel, having frontages to tho main road and two Government roads; gently undulating land, well timbered,
and securely fenced.

5.Part of subdivision of Section 4 and 5, Moorooduc, fronting the main road, two allotments,each containing about half an acre. (This means sections 4 and 5 of the Township of Mornington,between Tanti Rd and Tanti Creek separated by Strattons Lane and consisting of about 11 and 6 acres respectively.)

I believe the Tanti Rd block being sold by Ham in 1886 was on sections 4 and 5 of the township, not crown allotment 8, Moorooduc.

Just the other day I came across Cripps' grant (30C)in reference to a land department clerk accidentally confusing crown allotment 18 Wannaeue with crown allotment 18 Wannaeue and describing it as 159 acres instead of 150 acres (to which it was later amended.)If that confuses you, it will help you to understand the clerk's confusion. Cripps' land was in and near c/a 18, section B and c/a 18, section A was between Jetty Rd and Ninth Avenue building blocks. The parish map shows no boundary between section A and B, but I believe that Section A was north and north west of Cape Schanck Rd, formerly the Tootgarook Run, and section B was on the other side,being the former Arthurs Seat Run.

This journal would never have happened if steve74 had not sent me an email reporting a blue between John Cripps and Back Road Bob Cairns. This and another case involving Robert Henry Adams will be included in my future journal STORIES FROM THE ROSEBUD DISTRICT but a sneak peek can be obtained in the following:
South Bourke and Mornington Journal 18th October 1882 P.3;
South Bourke & mornington Journal 15th November 1882 p.3.

The Government road heading south from Rosebud, and known as Jetty Rd, originally continued south past Limestone Rd into the parish of Fingal, the haunt of graziers. Past the junction of Cape Schanck and Jetty Rd
(hence in Section B Wannaeue) the road was named Grasslands Road but the part between this point and Drum Drum Alloc Creek is now closed.

William Cripps was granted c/a 18A1,section B Wannaeue on 7-10-1878. On 1-10-1884 he was granted 30C, adjoining it to the north. The total area of the two blocks was 102 acres 0 roods and 20 perches. Adjoining 30G (the present Amberley Caravan Park), Cripps' land is indicated by Melway 170 F 7-9.

John Cripps was the member of the family brought before the court by Robert Cairns in 1882,but it was actually William. The judge allowed the case to proceed. The court report shows that William had sons named William Thomas and Albert. The Adams case seems to indicate that there was a third son named Joseph. The first case shows that William Cripps, who had a licence to cut timber from crown land, made a track through (what was to become) Back Road Bob's selection in about 1870.

Just fishing here: could William Cripps have moved to Gippsland, as so many peninsula pioneers did, and been an ancestor of Winsome Cripps, a female athlete of the 1950's whose name is lodged in my memory with those of Marlene Matthews, Shirley Strickland etc?
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 12 December 1896 p 10 Article
...; Joseph Cripps, allotment 7, 25 acres, Bowen Reserve, Toora; William Cripps, al- lotment 6, 20 acres, Bowen Reserve, Toora; Frederick C. Cripps, allotment 8, 26 acres, Bowen Reserve, Toora; George Cripps, allotment 10, 13 acres, Bowen Reserve, Toora;

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Monday 20 December 1954 p 9 Family Notices
... misted by a long tulle veil. . A "snowstorm" of confetti greets Olympic runner, Miss Winsome Cripps, ... daughter of Mr. and Mrs. F. G. Cripps, of Toora, Victoria,

Approval of William Cripps' application for a lease on 18A1 was published on page 2094 of the Government Gazette of Friday, November 5, 1875. The date of the lease was 13-9-72 and he had to pay 5 pounds 8 shillings rent per year. Unlike most of the applicants there was no rent due.
(PDF, 4.1MB - Victoria Government Gazette‎)

After resorting to genealogy pages linking CRIPPS with Mornington, Dromana etc with no success, I realised that the closest postal town was Tootgarook (Rye) and tried that. This is definitely the right family. Children 1 and 4 were witnesses in the 1882 court cases. Children 4,6,7 and 10 were born in the Rosebud area between 1869 and 1886 when he was definitely at Rosebud. (He had made the track through Robert Cairns' future selection in about 1870. I don't know where the court reporter got John and Joseph from. Unfortunately my fondly-remembered athlete does not seem to be a descendant.

From: "Carolyn Harris" <[email protected]> (by way of "Rob Nelson, Perth WA" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: DPS-CHAT: Cripps research
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 07:34:24 +0800

Have been seeing quite a bit of queries about CRIPPS and wondered why it
sounded familiar. I did research for a friend years ago and that was one
of the surnames that she had. For any one who has Victorian CRIPPS this is
a cut down version of it.

William CRIPPS (1822 - 1898) {1861}
D. Geelong
Thirza WELLS(1840 - 1921)
D. Mordialloc

1. William Thomas CRIPPS (1861 - 1885)
D. Snapper Point
2. Jacob John CRIPPS (1864 - 1866)
B. Melbourne D. Melbourne
3. Eunice Ann CRIPPS (1866 - )
B. Brighton
4. Albert CRIPPS (1869 - )
B. Tootgarook
5. Alfred Walker CRIPPS (1870 - 1939)
D. Richmond
6. Minnie CRIPPS (1872 - )
B. Dromana
7. Georgina CRIPPS (1874 - ) {1896}
B. Dromana
8. Victor Emanuel CRIPPS (1878 - 1954)
B. St.Kilda M. St.Kilda D. Edithvale (marine engineer)
9. Lesl;ie CRIPPS (1878 - 1904) {1902}
B. St.Kilda D. Melbourne
10. Eva CRIPPS (1881 - 1925) {1907}
B. Dromana D. Werribee


Carolyn Harris - (Westoz) - Australia


It has not been determined how long William Cripps stayed in the area after the advertisement appeared in June 1886. He applied for a carrier licence in 1887, but along with that of Henry Prosser, his application was postponed.He must have been well known to John Cain (municipal representative since the Kangerong Road Board first sat in 1864)who in 1899 asked that improvements be made to the road between Cripps' and Blair's estates.
The latter (6oo acre) estate was at Melway 171 G-K8 and to the south, bounded by Purves and Main Creek Rds.

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Today,I received a present from Toolaroo, a family tree circles member. Not only couldn't I put it down, it is extremely accurate. The only item that I would query is the spelling of the surname of Sarah Prosser who is quoted on page 22. It is possible that she was descended from Henry Prosser, a Frankston Fish Company director and Frankston and Hastings Shire councillor (whose daughter, Sarah, married Isaac Sawyer and, after his death, Amis Renouf) but she was more likely to be a descendant of Henry Prossor, who was in the parish of Fingal before moving to the Red Hill Village Settlement whose through road is called Prossors Lane.

The book is called PENINSULA PIONEERS which could be misleading as to the number of pioneering families discussed; the families discussed are in my surname list. Those marked with a star are just mentioned in articles and I will provide some information about them below.

LAKE/LEAK. That the two acre block (lot 86 of crown allotment 18, Wannaeue)had been already sold was pointed out in a loan document of 1879 detailing a loan from Captain Henry Everest Adams of Rosebud to William Edwards, a publican who established the Tanti Hotel in the 1850's; see my Tanti Hotel journal. Fisherman, Jack Jones of Rosebud, later had a store on this(the FJ's) corner. I was not aware that the Leak/Lake brothers had actually purchased crown allotment 18 from Blooming Bob White, but Frederick and William Leak were assessed on 150acres on 29-7-1889. For once the rate collector got it right! After the sale flopped because of the dispute over lot 86, Robert White was again assessed on 19-7-1890 and 18-7-1891.

The loan document stated that the block had been sold off by this chappie.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 18 February 1874 p 3 Advertising
... on .Saturday, February 21, at thrco o'clock. THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 26. BROADFORD. Wannaeue, County of Mornington. SALE by PUBLIC AUCTION Of 152a. 2r. 16p., Parish of Wannaeue, County of Mornington. And By Order of tho Executors of CHARLES BLAKEY, Deceased. For Positive and Absolute Sale. Without the ... 9204 words

Frederick and William Leak were later (about 1910 I think)in dispute with William Jamieson, a pioneer of the Rosebud Fishing Village, over what was probably part of that two acre block,but unfortunately due to shocking digitisation, I haven't been able to re-find the article. If I do stumble across it,it will be included in my EARLY ROSEBUD journal under crown allotment 18.

COLLINS and COLLINGS. Maiden names in the Robert White genealogy way back, in Scotland.
AULT. A Dromana carpenter who later bought 140 acres south of William Henry Blakely's 140 acres (which has the Red Hill Consolidated School in its north west corner) and west of James McKeown's grants. Henry Ault painted the original Red Hill School at the north end of Arkwells Lane in 1875 for seven pounds fifteen shillings.
HILL. James McKeown, Red Hill Pioneer who moved to Gracefield in Dromana circa 1885, married Catherine Townsend Hill of Warrnambool.
CLEINE. Son in law of the McIlroys. See THE RED HILL.
HOPCRAFT. William and John Hopcraft were granted land either side of Mornington-Flinders Rd near the north end of Tucks Rd and were near the Hillis and Davey grants and Henry Ault's 140 acres.
KEMP. Red Hill pioneer who was granted land in the parish of Kangerong on the east corner of McIlroys and Bowrings Rds between Blooming Bob White's 27 acres and the McIlroys and Forest Lodge to the east.
SIMPSON. See Joseph Simpson in my pioneer pathway JOURNAL. McIlroy in law.
HUNTLEY. South of Little Bridge Farm and east of another McIlroy grant farmed by Charles Cleine. Joseph McIlroy leased the Huntley's Hillside Orchard for five years. Sir Thomas Bent married one of John Huntley Senior's daughters and Cr John Shand married John Huntley Jnr's widow, Mary (nee Hope.)
BENNETT. Farmed Seven Oaks and Kent Orchard south of Craig Avon Lane. William Rd near the ArthursSeat summit is named after A.E.Bennett's son and executor,William.
ANDERSON. Yetta Ward Anderson supplied an anecdote about William and Joseph McIlroy and their strawberries. (P.22.)
PROSSER. See above.
CAIRNS. See my numerous journals about this family. Maiden name in the Robert White genealogy. A Robert White was leasing a hut from the Cairns brothers at Boneo in 1864. Both families came from Clackmannan near Menstrie; Robert White senior died at Menstrie Hill, Rosebud and Alex Cairns called his grant "Menstrie Mains".
PATERSON.RUSSELL.Both of these are maiden names in the Robert White genealogy.Perhaps the Cairns, Patterson and Russell families of Wannaeue and Fingal, with so many marital connections,were neighbours near Clackmannan before they set off to Australia. See LAND IN WANNAEUE AND FINGAL OWNED BY THE CAIRNS AND THEIR IN-LAWS and the CAIRNS GENEALOGY journals.

DAVEY. James Davey was descended from the pioneering Davey family of Frankston. The Davey pre-emptive right in the parish of Frankston was on the beach side of Old Mornington Rd from the Sweetwater Creek Crossing (Dory's Gully)to Canadian Bay Rd. The Davey homestead "Marysville" was demolished when "Marathon" was built if my memory serves me correctly. James Davey was granted land in Kangerong (Forest Lodge), 14A Balnarring (the Shand/Huntley "Kentucky" and "Rosslyn", houses now 214 and 212 Bittern-Dromana Rd)and land east of White's Rd farmed by Bullocky Bob White (born Robert James), his wife Hannah (nee Roberts) and their descendants.

BULLOCKY BOB WHITE was Blooming Bob White's nephew and the detail about his name change is in my journal about HILL HILLIS AND THE TWO BOB WHITES but not in the book.

Toolaroo's book has fantastic maps showing all the land grants superimposed on present day maps. Who's heard of slavery in Scotland and farms smaller than a house block in Ireland. By the time I'd read about these things, I fully understood why our pioneers would want to leave their homeland and familiesforever. Cairns descendants would love this book because of the maps and articles about the Menstrie area. Even the information about the Kew Lunatic Asylum was of great interest.

I don't know whether toolaroo had enough copies printed to have some available for purchase, but it is a terrific book which fills a void in the knowledge of the history of the Red Hill/Rosebud area. The Mornington Peninsula library and the Dromana Historical Society must obtain copies. Send a private message to toolaroo if you wish to obtain a copy.



Preparing to write about crown allotment 14 Wannaeue in my journal about EARLY ROSEBUD, I needed to check that the spelling in a ratebook entry was correct; it read "John McComb, farmer,Seaford." On trove there was plenty of evidence that McComb was the spelling of the name, mainly involving the Seaford football team. Therefore, the spelling of McCombe St near Rosebud Plaza shopping centre shows the same disrespect to our pioneers as the spelling of Cairn Rd, Rosebud (named after "Back Road Bob" Cairns of "Fernvilla")and William Crescent, Rosebud West (named after Edward Williams of "Eastbourne".)

I had suspected from the start that John McComb was a member of the pioneering Frankston family!

The journal has had to be written as a serial in comment boxes. The surnames list is in the journal as an insurance policy in case any names disappear.


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