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Crown allotment 14, Wannaeue of just over 114 acres is bounded by Eastbourne , Boneo, and Pt Nepean Rds and First Avenue (Melway 170 B2.) The grantee, Hugh Glass of Flemington, acquired c/a 16 as well by 1964 but scab among his millions of sheep and losses on the private Essendon railway caused his Wannaeue holding to fall from 231 to 100 acres by the time of his "accidental" overdose. The property seems to have been subdivided by Hugh's creditors into farms of 29+29+20+20+16 acres. The first two were consolidated as Hindhope by Eleanore and Gregory Brennan Rigg and included all Hope St house blocks and 50 First Avenue. The last three became Ramsay and Nora Couper's The Thicket, now occupied by The Drive, Warranilla, Woombi,Koorong etc.

The farming history of Hindhope is covered in my EARLY ROSEBUD journal, as will be some details of the farm's subdivision. I have listed there the surnames of all of the purchasers listed in the title documents. I had originally thought that I would not be able to specify the lots (or how many) bought by each but with a bit of investigation on the ground, I will actually be able to tell their descendants which shop or house site they bought.

The first part of the estate to be sold was the area between the highway and the strangely-named McCombe St. Lots 1-35 fronted the highway and extended roughly halfway to McCombe St which was named after Carrum farmer, John McComb, the last person to farm Hindhope before it was subdivided. Lots 70 -39 fronted McCombe St with lots 36 to 38 fronting only Boneo Rd.
Lot 1 was a triangular block at the corner of First Avenue that has a building to match its shape. Its highway frontage is 80 feet 2 inches but its back boundary is practically nil,only six feet. At the First Ave/McCombe St corner there is also a nearly triangular block,lot 70, with a frontage to the latter of only 32 feet 9 inches but its northern boundary is 106 feet 5 inches. It houses the electrical business, Nepean Auto and a small section of the First Avenue car park. As can be seen through the mesh fence,lot 70 adjoins lots 2 and 3 and that tiny back boundary of lot 1. There are also non rectangular lots at the Boneo Rd end. That is because the Government roads (Jetty and Boneo)were magnetic north-south and the Avenues were made parallel but the"Beach Road" does not run magnetic east-west.

Lots 2-18 extend west from lot 1 to Hope St, at right angles to the highway, with front and back boundaries of 50 feet. Past Hope St lots 19-31 are also rectangular with 50 foot frontages. Lots 32 and 33 only have a combined frontage of 50 feet and I have a feeling that they comprise the car park between the frontage of Safeway and the chemist etc fronting Boneo Rd. The Boneo Rd shops occupy lots 34 and 35.

Fronting McCombe St , west of lot 70 (Nepean Auto etc) the rectangular lots 69-55, with 50 foot frontages, extended west to Hope St and lots 54 to 40 (now entirely car parking) of the same shape and dimensions went 50 feet past the point where McCombe St bends to meet Boneo Rd at a right angle. This alteration to the end of McCombe St must be the reason that Red Rooster had to move from the north corner of McCombe St (on Charlie Burnham's lot 39, which the road now runs through.) I have vague recollections of McCombe St running its original course, Red Rooster on the north corner with McEwans (later Bunnings) at the west end of the Plaza and Coles/the post office at the east entrance. (I remember even earlier, mid to late 1960's, spending a holiday at Hindhope Park on the site of Rosebud Plaza.) There are photos of Hindhope Park and the footy ground on the Village Green on Steve Burnham's website.

North of Charlie Burnham's block (which had a McCombe St frontage of 220 feet 10 inches )were lots 38 (53'8' frontage) and 36-37 (107'4" frontage)which now make up the car park between McCombe St and the fishing/ giftware/coffee shops. Lot 1 on the highway/First Avenue corner was bought (paid off and title transferred)by William Robert Patterson on 23-2-1916 and lot 39 by Charles Robert Burnham on 31-5-1926. Read about the Pattersons and Burnhams by googling: early days in rosebud, victoria l

The blocks south of McCombe St to 50 First Avenue and fronting First Avenue and Thomas St were apparently called section a and will be dealt with later. I will start with the area between McCombe St and the "Beach Road". Addresses were obtained from 1919 rates. If you need the street and house number send me a private message requesting same.

Lots 1-35 had Pt Nepean Rd frontages. Present occupancy of each lot will follow this information from titles and 1919 rates.

LOT NO.; DATE OF TITLE; PURCHASER; ADDRESS (1919) 1919 buildings/ change
First Avenue
1. 23-2-1916 Wm Rob.Patterson Cape Schanck
2 20-7-1922 Flo. Alice Whiter E.Caul.>Sandringham Mrs H.Whiter
3 16-9-1915 Eliza Ellen Ross Rosebud BDS. (SEE BELOW,NEAR END, RE "KINROSS".)
4 19-2-1915 Robert Cairns Fingal
5 19-2-1915 David Cairns Fingal
6 15-5-1926 Christie Cairns Boneo
7 7-9-1915 David Phillips Brunswick (lots 32,) E.Martin (formerly Woolcott St,)
8 7-9-1915 David Phillips Brunswick (33,40,41) (Coburg,but now Rosebud.)BDS.
9 18-12-1917 Annie Cath. Sampson St Kilda
10 7-9-1915 Harriet Harvie Northcote
11 9-7-1919 Marg. Emma Beattie Brunswick
12 19-5-1919 Mrs Mina Doran Northcote BDS.
13 27-5-1919 Henry Bucher Brighton? (C/A 17 lots) Not assessed
14 12-4-1916 John Russell Town Hall, Camberwell
15 27-5-1919 Henry Alan Bucher ? (Mrs Kathleen Waterhouse )
16 27-5-1919 Henry Alan Bucher ( South Australia.)
17 27-10-1924 Roy Cliff. Cairns Edward Cairns, Rosebud
18 27-10-1924 Leslie Edward Cairns Edward Cairns,Rosebud
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19 16-2-1921 Flo. Marguerite Bergen Bruns.>Elsternwick
20 8-12-1916 Henry Balaam EastBrunswick
21 8-12-1916 Henry Balaam EastBrunswick
22 9-3-1921 Gladys Iris Jennings Parkville>Rosebud BDS.A.M.Jennings.
23 12-2-1920 Marian Sampson Mrs Dewey,Kew.
24 20-7-1920 Clara Ada Dewey Kew? Mr Dewey.
25 17-4-1916 Edw. Jas. Wymer Coburg? Crossed out; Davis. BDS.
26 8-2-1915 Annie Calder Cook Anderson (Mrs Edith Trivell of Rosebud )
27 8-2-1915 A.C.C.Anderson (assessed on lots 26, 27 and BDS.)
28 1-3-1916 Robert Cairns the Younger (Forsyth and Sons,Dromana assessed on 28,45,46.)
29 Possibly trans. to Denzel Clyde Victor Purser 3-7-1954 and sold 13-8-1958.
30 19-1-1915 Norman D.Pern Fairfield, N.S.W.
31 19-1-1915 Norman D.Pern Fairfield, N.S.W.
32 7-9-1915 David Phillips Brunswick
33 7-9-1915 David Phillips Brunswick
34 19-2-1915 Robert Cairns Not assessed.
35 19-2-1915 Robert Cairns Not assessed.

As a careful measurement of the 80 foot 2 inches frontage of lot 1 extended halfway across the Salvos store and my pacing from there left me with an extra 50 foot frontage to Rose St,this is going to take some time.
Lot 1. 2/1243A Pt. Nepean Rd, the closed Heavenly Gelati and the Salvos Store to the east edge of the doorway.
Lot 2. The Salvos doorway and Anytime Fitness.
Lot 3. The eastern (roughly )two fifths of the Barkie's building; the loading dock portion east of the protruding wall at the rear.
Lot 4.The Barkie's building between the middle of the rear entry and the protruding wall to the east.
Lot 5. Between the middle of the driveway between Rosebud Carpets and Barkie's to the middle of Barkie's rear entry (roughly the AP in HOME APPLIANCES at the front.)
Lot 6. West half of the above driveway and Rosebud Carpets.
Lot 7. G.I.O. and Salon 16 wing of Rosebud Square.
Lot 8. Car Parking in Rosebud Square.
Lot 9. West wing of Rosebud Square.
Lot 10. East half First Choice.
Lot 11. West half First Choice.
Lot 12. Mainly the Aldi through-drive to McCombe St.
Lot 13. West half of car parking beside Aldi.
Lot 14. East half of Aldi building to line of spouting.
Lot 15. West half of Aldi building.
Lot 16. No. 1337 (White Lady and After Care.)
Lot 17. East half Toyota.
Lot 18. West half Toyota.

ROSE ST TO BONEO RD. (All of these to lot 31 have 50 foot frontages, roughly 17 paces.)
Lot 19. No.1355 (Cash Deal.)
Lot 20. The rendered east part of Founds.
Lot 21. The western,exposed brick part of Founds.
Lot 22. 1375 (Peninsula Legal Centre) and 1377 (Shorts Real Estate.)
Lot 23. Haynes Paint and 1381 (Snowball Flowers.)
Lot 24. West from skinny pavers in drive,1385 (APIA) and 1387 (Rosebud Homemakers.)
Lot 25. Driveway and Video Ezy.
Lot 26. Pt Nepean Arcade, Collette Hair and 1401 (Cartridge World.)
Lot 27. East end of Safeway to the "No Entry" door and a footpath grate.
Lot 28. From the door to a third of the way along the bus shelter outside Safeway.
Lot 29. West to the east end of the middle wooden seat outside Safeway.
Lot 30. West to the east end of wooden fence around footpath tree near the west end of the Safeway building.
Lot 31. From tree fence to plantation between Safeway car park entry and exit.
Lots 32 and 33 (90 foot frontage.) West to big gum tree at west end of car park.
Lots 34 and 35 (75 foot frontage.) Unique Impression Flowers, 1447 (Bayside Seafood, Stockdale&Leggo),
1449 (G.C.Gerbert and Wise Employment),1451 (Turning Heads Hair.)

ROSS.-On the 15th July, at his residence, "Kinross," Rosebud, Alexander John, the beloved husband of E. E. (Nellie) Ross, loving father of Alick, Norman, and Hector, youngest son of the late David and Sarah Ross, French Island,and brother of David, Rowland, and Wallace. Late of Brunswick and Richmond. Late M. T.
and 0 Company. Aged 46 years. (P.1, Argus, 16-7-1915.) Nellie was a Sidebottom. Her early days on the estate were not as happy as they might have been, the death of her mother, Sarah Ellen, in 1919 adding to her widowhood.

ALWAY-JENNINGS.-The marriage ofBetty Irene, elder daughter of Mr. and Mrs. John Alway, Hillside avenue, East
Malvern, to Frederick Rowland, youngest son of the late Mr. Walter Jennings and Mrs.G.Jennings, Rosebud, will be celebrated at St. John's Church, Finch street, East Malvern, on Monday, April 15, at 5.30 p.m. (P.10, Argus, 12-4-1946.)

Mr. G. E. Jennings, who conducts the dairy at Rosebud, and serves Rye area, contemplates carrying out extensions to his business premises in Rosebud, in the near future. When these alterations are made it will be the most modern dairy on the Peninsula. (P.6, Standard, Frankston,28-2-1946.)

Miss Ruth Ferris, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Ferris, was recently. married to Mr. Jack Jennings, youngest
son of Mr. and Mrs. Jennings, of Rosebud. The ceremony took place at the Church of England. The wedding breakfast was held at the homeof the bride's grand-parents. The honeymoon is being spent at Healesville.
(P.3, Standard, Frankston, 5-10-1944.) It is Jack's statue that stands outside the former (most modern)dairy on the east corner of Rosebud Pde.

JENNINGS (nee Gladys Mullen). On the 10th November, at Nurse McInne's private hospital,Box Hill, the wife of Walter Gordon Jennings,of "Dalgabeena," Blackburn a son (Gordon Roberts).(P.11, Argus,12-12-1914.) So that's why the Mullen assessment was to be sent to Mrs Jennings in 1919!

MULLEN.-On March l8, at Hobart, Lt.-Col. L. M. Mullen, loving brother of Gladys (Mrs. W. G. Jennings. Rosebud,
Vic). -Duty nobly done.(P.2, Argus, 20-3-1943.)

LOT 1.
I couldn't remember the name of the timber business that operated on lot 1 of the Hindhope Estate on the west corner of Pt Nepean Rd and First Avenue at Rosebud. But I knew exactly where I could find out. The answer is in the photo on page 24 of the souvenir and although not painted green in 1954, the building looks much the same now as when H.and J.Hancock were running their timber and hardware store.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Thursday 7 January 1954 p 17 Article Illustrated


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While I was transcribing the 1919-20 rates for the Hindhope Estate, A nice lady, Peggy Waldron, asked if I'd mind if she used the next microfiche reader. We struck up a conversation and she asked me if I'd heard of the Waldrons at Mornington. I hadn't and she told me that her husband's ancestor had helped to build the Mornington pier. When she told me that Thomas Waldron had land on Craigie Rd that had been Balcombe's, it didn't make sense so I grabbed the tattered Moorooduc parish map that the Mornington Peninsula Library should be ashamed of.

There it was, lots 2, 3, 4 and 23 of section 24, parish of Moorooduc. The western boundary of crown allotments 4, 3 and 2, of roughly 23,22 and 17 acres, was Dunns Rd to its present end and a bend to the south east for another 220 metres where it met Harraps Creek at the corner of the wildlife reserve in Melway 145 E 11. The eastern boundary was Harraps Creek whose course cut through the "Proposed Anglican School" and followed the north west boundary of the wildlife reserve. Crown allotment 23,of 62 acres 2 roods and 20 perches, was east of Harraps Creek, having frontages of 618 acres to Craigie Rd and 446 metres to the west side of Racecourse Rd. Its south east corner would be where Racecourse Rd and Ker-Bur-Rer Walk would intersect.

NEW INSOLVENTS. Thomas Waldron, builder, Schnapper Point.Causes of insolvency-Losses, depression in business,
and fear of arrest. Liabilities, £839 10s 7£d; assets,£760; deficiency, £79 10s 7d. Mr Moore, official
assignee. (The Star (Ballarat, Vic. : 1855 - 1864) Saturday 9 January 1864 p 3 Article.)

THIS DAY.Schnapper Point.
Sale of 125 Acres Freehold Land (10 of which are fenced in and under cultivation), together with Weatherboard House and Outbuildings, subject to Mortgage and Interest of £410.In the Insolvent Estate of Thomas Waldron.
By Order of James Moore, Esq., Official Assignee.
ALFRED BLISS has received instructions from James Moore, Esq., Official Assignee, to SELL by PUBLIC AUCTION, at tho new mart, 81 Collins street west, on Wednesday, 20th, at two o'clock, The Official Assignee's right, title, and interest inand to all that freehold land known as Mr.Waldron's Farm, situate at Schnapper Point,
containing 125 acres (16 of which are under cultivation and securely fenced), upon which is erected a four-roomed weatherboard cottage and out-buildings.
To be sold subject to tho mortgage and interest of £410. Title perfect. Terms at Sale.
(The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 20 January 1864 p 2 Advertising.)

Second meetings were held and closed in the estates of the following insolvents;-Thomas Waldron, of Schnapper Point, publican; John Paxton, of Sandhurst, publican ; and Abraham Myers, of Melbourne, dealer. Two
small debts were proved in Waldron's estate ;in the other estates no person appeared. The third meeting in each was appointed for the 22nd March. ((P.7, Argus, 18-2-1864.)

(Before W, B. Noel Esq., Chief Commissioner of Insolvent Estates.) THIRD MEETINGS,
Insolvent had been a butcher at Schnapper Point. He was present, but no creditor appeared, and the meeting closed. The official assignee reported that the principal asset, viz.125 acres at Schnapper Point, was mortgaged up to its full value. The other assets were only £10 for furniture, and £16 3s. for building materials. (The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 26 March 1864 p 7 Article.)

Third meetings were held and closed in the estates of the following Insolvents :Thomas Waldron, of Fitzroy, builder; John Paxton, of Sandhurst, publican ; Abraham Lazarus,of Melbourne, warehouseman ; George Holthaus, of Beechworth, storekeeper: David Gillespie, of Melbourne, engineer ; Cornelius O'Hara, of North Melbourne, bootmaker and Allan A. Stewart, of Spring-hill, Creswick, farmer. Some few debts were admitted
in three estates. ( The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Thursday 31 March 1864 p 6 Article.)

Ninnis v. Ada Waldron, Ninnis v. Thomas Waldron,(P.5, Argus, 7-3-1876.)

???CHERRY. - On the 27th May, at Lockington,Yorkshire, England, John Robinson, beloved brother of Mrs Waldron, Elsternwick, Mrs. M'Cann, Meta, Francis, Peter, Arthur, and Maria Cherry, in his 68th year. (By Cable).(P.1,Argus, 30-5-1898.) ???

WALDRON.-On the 31st January, at Hotham- grove, Elsternwick, Ada, wife of Thomas Waldron, builder, late of Schnapper Point, aged 78 years.
(The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 4 February 1905 p 9 Family Notices.)

?????????The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 7 February 1900 p 1 Family Notices????
WALDRON.-In loving remembrance of our be- loved brother, Thomas ...‎
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Cherry, Margaretta (Meta) (1822 - 1907)
Lockington, Yorkshire, England
Elsternwick, Victoria, Australia
© Biography by Madonna Grehan PhD, 2011.

English born Margaretta (Meta) Cherry spent twenty two years on the nursing staff of the Melbourne Lying-in Hospital and Infirmary for Diseases Peculiar to Women and Children, where she was affectionately described as 'the baby nurse' and was sufficiently respected to 'have the care of the keys' in the Matron's absence.
Margaretta Cherry worked as member of the nursing staff at the Melbourne Lying-in Hospital and Infirmary for Diseases Peculiar to Women and Children from 1867 until 1889.
Called 'Meta' by her family, Margaretta was born in Lockington, County of Yorkshire, England, to Francis Cherry and Frances Robinson. Margaretta arrived in the Colony of Victoria in June 1856, having sailed with one of her brothers and a sister aboard "Arthur the Great". These siblings joined other Cherry family members, including a married sister, Ada Waldron (née Cherry), who settled in Melbourne in 1849.
Few details of Margaretta Cherry's service at the Lying-in Hospital exist, as the records from this era are sparse, but copies of family correspondence written by Ada Waldron to her parents in Yorkshire shed some light on Nurse Cherry's role. An extract from one letter, dated April 1878, reads:
"Meta [Margaretta] has been at the Lying-in Hospital for eleven years now. I think her office there is more humble than that of Matron who is the daughter of a Doctor and was a governess; in her absence Meta has the care of the keys etc & and is looked up to. I am sorry to say that her health is not satisfactory. She suffers from palpitation and the Dr says there is valvular disease - but she has not had an attack lately, but she has aged very much the last 2 or 3 years."[1]
At the time that this letter was written, the Lying-in Hospital's Matron was Miss Emily Harvey who occupied the position of Matron from the early 1860s until mid-1882.[2] Nurse Cherry served under two other matrons during her employment: Mrs J D Cossins (1882-1885), formerly employed at "The Retreat" in Adelaide,[3] and Miss Charlotte Elizabeth Findlay from 1885.[4] The Matron's position was one of considerable responsibility and status. She was in charge of all of the Hospital's employees and was required to live at the Hospital with only a few hours away from the Hospital permitted each week.[5] Nurse Cherry must have been a trusted employee to be charged with the matron's duties.
Nurse Cherry was affectionately described as 'the baby nurse'. This nomenclature is recorded in correspondence written by Miss Margaret Howlett. Margaret Howlett's mother, Mary, undertook pupil nurse training at the Melbourne Lying-in Hospital in the year 1887, and after training, Mary worked around Wycliffe and Lake Bolac in Central Victoria. She was a respected midwife and nurse.
In the mid-1960s Margaret Howlett corresponded about her mother's work with Dr Frank Forster, a Melbourne obstetrician who had an interest in medical history. Subsequently, some of Mary Howlett's belongings: her certificate of training, white linen apron, and a family medicine chest, came to be housed in the collection of the Australian College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists. Included in the collection are Margaret Howlett's letters to Frank Forster.
In a 1965 letter to Dr Forster, Margaret Howlett recalled how, as a little girl, she visited the Lying-in Hospital where her mother was a pupil nurse. Of her visit, Margaret Howlett wrote:
"In mother's time there was a nurse Cherry at the hospital who was the "baby nurse", she used to take me round the ward and show me all the babies whose mothers were in good order for visitors. Of course I was not allowed to touch any but I liked to see them."[6]
The precise nature of Nurse Cherry's day-to-day work with the babies in the years 1867-1889 is not known because few Hospital records from this era have survived. In most cases, mothers who were well and healthy breast-fed, keeping their infant in bed with them. But if mothers were too ill to care for their infants, it was the work of the midwifery nurses to attend to them. These babies were fed by hand with a spoon or eye dropper, or sometimes a "wet nurse" was engaged to breast-feed them.[7] Consequently feeding was time-consuming work. Midwifery nurses sewed clothing for the infants under their care too.[8]
Babies whose mothers died during, or after, the birth were cared for at the Lying-in Hospital by the midwifery nurses until a suitable home could be found for them. When no-one in the family was available to take them, these infants were sent to the city's Industrial Schools and orphanages or, in some cases, private citizens made applications to the Hospital to adopt a baby.[9]
Nurse Cherry, the baby nurse, had served at the Lying-in Hospital for 20 years when, in early 1888, she was recommended to receive £5 per annum in addition to her existing salary.[10] Nurses and other staff were permitted to apply for an increase of salary at the end of each year's service, according to hospital regulations, but a raise was contingent on the Ladies Committee of Management (LCOM) approval. The nurses at that time received a salary between that of the Hospital Cook (£60) and a House Maid (£45).[11] Nurse Cherry's application for an increase of salary at the end of 1888 was not granted.[12] Despite this rebuff, Margaretta remained at The Women's for another year until late November 1889 when it appears she resigned and was 'allowed a testimonial' by the LCOM,[13] by which time she was aged 67.
Nurse Cherry maintained an association with The Women's Hospital. In 1893 the Hospital's Honorary Treasurer, Mrs Don, acknowledged Nurse Cherry's donation of 10 shillings to the charity.[14] Until she died in 1907, Margaretta Cherry lived with her extended family, at Elsternwick in Melbourne's south-east.

1 Ada Waldron, Letter Book. 15 April 1878, held by Margaret Royston. Ada copied her correspondence home into an exercise book.
2 Women's Hospital Ladies Committee of Management (WH LCOM) Minutes. 21 April 1882, RWHA 1991/7/45.
3 WH LCOM Minutes. 20 June 1882, RWHA 1991/7/45.
4 Miss Findlay resigned in 1899 when the LCOM elected to appoint a trained nurse as Lady Superintendent.
5 See
6 Correspondence from Margaret Howlett to Dr Frank Forster. 4 January 1965, Collection of the Royal Australian and New Zealand College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists, Melbourne.
7 Melbourne Lying-in Hospital and Infirmary for Diseases Peculiar to Women and Children Annual Report for 1881.
8 Madonna Grehan 2009. Professional Aspirations and Consumer Expectations: Nurses, Midwives and Women's Health, Unpublished PhD Thesis, The University of Melbourne, p.141.
9 WH LCOM Minutes. 2 June, 10 November 1882, RWHA 1991/7/45; 7 December 1888, RWHA 1991/6/12.
10 WH LCOM Minutes. 13 January 1888, RWHA 1991/6/11.
11 WH LCOM Minutes. 28 September 1888, RWHA 1991/6/11.
12 WH LCOM Minutes. 7, 21 December 1888, RWHA 1991/6/12.
13 WH LCOM Minutes. 22 November 1889, RWHA 1991/6/12.
14 Argus. 24 June 1893, p.12.
© Madonna Grehan PhD, 2011.
The author gratefully acknowledges the assistance of Margaret Royston and Anne Brick in the production of this biography.
Created: 6 October 2011, Last modified: 24 April 2012


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An hour transcribing assessments for the Hindhope Estate (1919-20) has resulted in the need for three new journals about this estate, Keith McGregor and Thomas Waldron of the parish of Moorooduc.

I have stated in my EARLY ROSEBUD journal that Keith McGregor married Mabel Adams of Hopetoun House (Wattle Place near the McCrae Car Wash site)(1), that he had a farm at Fingal near Hill Harry Cairns' Maroolaba (2), and that he lived for a time on The Thicket at Rosebud (2). I also mentioned that he sold his carrier business, which he had bought from Carrier Harry Cairns, to Mabel's brother, Billy.(3)
1. Harvey Marshall's scrapbook-Adams genealogy.
2. The late Ray Cairns. 3. The Cairns Family of Boneo, written by Peter Wilson using Ray's information.

When I interviewed Ray Cairns ten days after he turned 100, I gained only a general idea where Keith farmed at Fingal. I was slightly puzzled when Ray said that Keith did not have much land at The Thicket. Now everything is clear due to a check that I did after transcribing the Hindhope rates.

When I was transcribing the Shire of Flinders rates from August 2010 to the end of that year, Keith McGregor meant nothing to me, and I was confining myself to assessments in the parishes of Wannaeue and Kangerong. Therefore, I did not notice the following:
286. Malcolm and Keith McGregor of Cape Schanck (crossed out and replaced by somebody whose name might have been Ham (of Coolart) and a whole lot of indecipherable scribble that was supposed to describe his land. This was obviously the time that Keith moved to The Thicket,but the most immediate need was to find which land the McGregor Bros. farmed at Fingal.

1918-19. 2515. Malcolm and Keith McGregor, Cape Schanck 995 acres and buildings,crown allotments 11, 14, 15, Fingal.

These crown allotments comprised 320 acres, 355.0.33 and 320.3.32, a total of 996 acres 0 roods and 25 perches so that was as accurate as a rate collector was likely to be. Melway references for these crown allotments are:
c/a 11, fronting the east side of Truemans Rd directly opposite the St Andrews Club Gunnamatta course (same northern and southern extent)and east to include the left half of 252 J 8-9;
c/a 14, fronting the east side of Truemans Rd, 252,D-J (left half)10-11, south of c/a 11;
c/a 15, includes the right half of 252 J 10-11, the northern boundary (south boundary of Ace Hi) ending at the junction of Boneo and Old Cape Schanck Rds and the southern boundary an extension of c/a 14's to Boneo Rd.

And now to The Thicket. Crown allotment 14, Wannaeue of just over 114 acres is bounded by Eastbourne , Boneo,
and Pt Nepean Rds and First Avenue (Melway 170 B2.) The grantee, Hugh Glass of Flemington, acquired c/a 16 as well by 1964 but scab among his millions of sheep and losses on the private Essendon railway caused his Wannaeue holding to fall from 231 to 100 acres by the time of his "accidental" overdose. The property seems to have been subdivided by Hugh's creditors into farms of 29+29+20+20+16 acres. The first two were consolidated as Hindhope by Eleanore and Gregory Brennan Rigg and included all Hope St house blocks and 50 First Avenue. The last three became Ramsay and Nora Couper's The Thicket, now occupied by The Drive, Warranilla, Woombi,Koorong etc.

As mentioned previously, Keith McGregor had left Fingal by the time of the 1919 assessment. But how could he have lived in the homestead of the Thicket when Alf Rawlings was rated on the farm and buildings in 1919? Alf Rawlings (death notice in my EARLY ROSEBUD journal)had moved away. In view of Ray Cairns' belief that Keith only had the homestead (and probably a homestead block, the garden and the garage for the T Model van that he used to convey passengers to the Mornington railhead),Alf was still visiting occasionally to tend to his farm.

But where would Alf stay? The answer is provided in the 1919 rates. A note scribbled, but not in the column where land was described,saying lots 95,96 A. I did not transcribe it in 2010 because it made no sense. I now know exactly where that land was. It was at the south east corner of Hindhope, its southern boundary being that of 50 First Avenue with, its northern boundary extending 20 feet along the south side of Hope St. And why would Alf want another 1 acre 1 rood and 39 perches of land when he had 57 acres(the Thicket)one step to the south?
The house of course!

Keith McGregor was renting the Thicket homestead from Alf and Alf was renting the Hindhope homestead from Alexander Mackie Younger. When Keith and his brother left about a year later to try wheat growing (see my EARLY ROSEBUD journal), Keith did not stay away long. It may be that he and Mabel went with Malcolm to get him established, or perhaps Mabel pined for her family and friends at Rosebud.Annie Cameron of 167 Gipps St, who'd bought lots 95 and 96 on 9-1-1923, sold it to Keith McGregor of Rosebud on 12-3-1926. Keith mortgaged it to Alexander mackieYounger on 30-12-1926 and the mortgage was discharged on 31-3-1927,on which day Keith must have sold the property to Gilbert Livingstone Culliford, Gentleman, of Ivanhoe.

Well, sort of, anyway. If I hadn't collected for Red Cross,I wouldn't have asked the owner of 50 First Avenue about the house and been invited inside to see its period features, or carried out my investigations to get the old homestead heritage listed.The entry (lots95, 96)for Alf Rawlings still wouldn't have made sense, I still wouldn't have known exactly when Keith McGregor lived in the Thicket homestead and I wouldn't have known that Keith Mcgregor owned Lots 95 and 96 (the homestead block for the Hindhope Villa, 50 First Avenue.)


CJ. And T. HAM are instructed by Mr. W.Cripps to SELL, as above,
Land, comprising 101 acres 1 rood 4 perches,being Sections 18.A1 and 30C, parish of Wannaeue, having a frontage to the Cape Schanck-road, at Wannaeue, Mornington*, within four miles of Dromana. The extension of the railway to Schnapper Point must tend to benefit of this land. Title Crown grant.
(* Mornington means county of Mornington, a huge area including the peninsula, part of Gippsland and north at least as far as Mordialloc.)

Land being portion of Crown Allotment 8, parish of Moorooduc, having a frontage of 180ft. to Tanti-road by a depth of 133ft.(P.2, Argus, 5-6-1886.)

I am not sure whether the Tanti Rd land was being sold for Mr Cripps as well, but just in case: Crown allotment 8, Moorooduc of 92 acres 1 rood and 5 perches and bounded by Barkly St, Beleura Hill Rd, Nepean Highway and Tanti Creek, was granted to A.B.Balcombe.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 1 December 1877 p 2 Advertising
CJ. and T. HAM havo received Instructions from. tho executor and executrix of the estate ol thelate A. B. Balcombe, Esq , to SELL by PUBLICAUOIION, at tboir rooms, 46 Swanston street, on Thursday, 13 h December, at twolvo o'clock, the undermentioned properties, viz.: (only two pasted!)

3.All that piece of land, being Section No. 8,Moorooduc, 92 ACRES 1 ROOD 5 PERCHES,nearly opposite tho Tanti Hotel, having frontages to tho main road and two Government roads; gently undulating land, well timbered,
and securely fenced.

5.Part of subdivision of Section 4 and 5, Moorooduc, fronting the main road, two allotments,each containing about half an acre. (This means sections 4 and 5 of the Township of Mornington,between Tanti Rd and Tanti Creek separated by Strattons Lane and consisting of about 11 and 6 acres respectively.)

I believe the Tanti Rd block being sold by Ham in 1886 was on sections 4 and 5 of the township, not crown allotment 8, Moorooduc.

Just the other day I came across Cripps' grant (30C)in reference to a land department clerk accidentally confusing crown allotment 18 Wannaeue with crown allotment 18 Wannaeue and describing it as 159 acres instead of 150 acres (to which it was later amended.)If that confuses you, it will help you to understand the clerk's confusion. Cripps' land was in and near c/a 18, section B and c/a 18, section A was between Jetty Rd and Ninth Avenue building blocks. The parish map shows no boundary between section A and B, but I believe that Section A was north and north west of Cape Schanck Rd, formerly the Tootgarook Run, and section B was on the other side,being the former Arthurs Seat Run.

This journal would never have happened if steve74 had not sent me an email reporting a blue between John Cripps and Back Road Bob Cairns. This and another case involving Robert Henry Adams will be included in my future journal STORIES FROM THE ROSEBUD DISTRICT but a sneak peek can be obtained in the following:
South Bourke and Mornington Journal 18th October 1882 P.3;
South Bourke & mornington Journal 15th November 1882 p.3.

The Government road heading south from Rosebud, and known as Jetty Rd, originally continued south past Limestone Rd into the parish of Fingal, the haunt of graziers. Past the junction of Cape Schanck and Jetty Rd
(hence in Section B Wannaeue) the road was named Grasslands Road but the part between this point and Drum Drum Alloc Creek is now closed.

William Cripps was granted c/a 18A1,section B Wannaeue on 7-10-1878. On 1-10-1884 he was granted 30C, adjoining it to the north. The total area of the two blocks was 102 acres 0 roods and 20 perches. Adjoining 30G (the present Amberley Caravan Park), Cripps' land is indicated by Melway 170 F 7-9.

John Cripps was the member of the family brought before the court by Robert Cairns in 1882,but it was actually William. The judge allowed the case to proceed. The court report shows that William had sons named William Thomas and Albert. The Adams case seems to indicate that there was a third son named Joseph. The first case shows that William Cripps, who had a licence to cut timber from crown land, made a track through (what was to become) Back Road Bob's selection in about 1870.

Just fishing here: could William Cripps have moved to Gippsland, as so many peninsula pioneers did, and been an ancestor of Winsome Cripps, a female athlete of the 1950's whose name is lodged in my memory with those of Marlene Matthews, Shirley Strickland etc?
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 12 December 1896 p 10 Article
...; Joseph Cripps, allotment 7, 25 acres, Bowen Reserve, Toora; William Cripps, al- lotment 6, 20 acres, Bowen Reserve, Toora; Frederick C. Cripps, allotment 8, 26 acres, Bowen Reserve, Toora; George Cripps, allotment 10, 13 acres, Bowen Reserve, Toora;

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Monday 20 December 1954 p 9 Family Notices
... misted by a long tulle veil. . A "snowstorm" of confetti greets Olympic runner, Miss Winsome Cripps, ... daughter of Mr. and Mrs. F. G. Cripps, of Toora, Victoria,

Approval of William Cripps' application for a lease on 18A1 was published on page 2094 of the Government Gazette of Friday, November 5, 1875. The date of the lease was 13-9-72 and he had to pay 5 pounds 8 shillings rent per year. Unlike most of the applicants there was no rent due.
(PDF, 4.1MB - Victoria Government Gazette‎)

After resorting to genealogy pages linking CRIPPS with Mornington, Dromana etc with no success, I realised that the closest postal town was Tootgarook (Rye) and tried that. This is definitely the right family. Children 1 and 4 were witnesses in the 1882 court cases. Children 4,6,7 and 10 were born in the Rosebud area between 1869 and 1886 when he was definitely at Rosebud. (He had made the track through Robert Cairns' future selection in about 1870. I don't know where the court reporter got John and Joseph from. Unfortunately my fondly-remembered athlete does not seem to be a descendant.

From: "Carolyn Harris" <[email protected]> (by way of "Rob Nelson, Perth WA" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: DPS-CHAT: Cripps research
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 07:34:24 +0800

Have been seeing quite a bit of queries about CRIPPS and wondered why it
sounded familiar. I did research for a friend years ago and that was one
of the surnames that she had. For any one who has Victorian CRIPPS this is
a cut down version of it.

William CRIPPS (1822 - 1898) {1861}
D. Geelong
Thirza WELLS(1840 - 1921)
D. Mordialloc

1. William Thomas CRIPPS (1861 - 1885)
D. Snapper Point
2. Jacob John CRIPPS (1864 - 1866)
B. Melbourne D. Melbourne
3. Eunice Ann CRIPPS (1866 - )
B. Brighton
4. Albert CRIPPS (1869 - )
B. Tootgarook
5. Alfred Walker CRIPPS (1870 - 1939)
D. Richmond
6. Minnie CRIPPS (1872 - )
B. Dromana
7. Georgina CRIPPS (1874 - ) {1896}
B. Dromana
8. Victor Emanuel CRIPPS (1878 - 1954)
B. St.Kilda M. St.Kilda D. Edithvale (marine engineer)
9. Lesl;ie CRIPPS (1878 - 1904) {1902}
B. St.Kilda D. Melbourne
10. Eva CRIPPS (1881 - 1925) {1907}
B. Dromana D. Werribee


Carolyn Harris - (Westoz) - Australia


It has not been determined how long William Cripps stayed in the area after the advertisement appeared in June 1886. He applied for a carrier licence in 1887, but along with that of Henry Prosser, his application was postponed.He must have been well known to John Cain (municipal representative since the Kangerong Road Board first sat in 1864)who in 1899 asked that improvements be made to the road between Cripps' and Blair's estates.
The latter (6oo acre) estate was at Melway 171 G-K8 and to the south, bounded by Purves and Main Creek Rds.

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Today,I received a present from Toolaroo, a family tree circles member. Not only couldn't I put it down, it is extremely accurate. The only item that I would query is the spelling of the surname of Sarah Prosser who is quoted on page 22. It is possible that she was descended from Henry Prosser, a Frankston Fish Company director and Frankston and Hastings Shire councillor (whose daughter, Sarah, married Isaac Sawyer and, after his death, Amis Renouf) but she was more likely to be a descendant of Henry Prossor, who was in the parish of Fingal before moving to the Red Hill Village Settlement whose through road is called Prossors Lane.

The book is called PENINSULA PIONEERS which could be misleading as to the number of pioneering families discussed; the families discussed are in my surname list. Those marked with a star are just mentioned in articles and I will provide some information about them below.

LAKE/LEAK. That the two acre block (lot 86 of crown allotment 18, Wannaeue)had been already sold was pointed out in a loan document of 1879 detailing a loan from Captain Henry Everest Adams of Rosebud to William Edwards, a publican who established the Tanti Hotel in the 1850's; see my Tanti Hotel journal. Fisherman, Jack Jones of Rosebud, later had a store on this(the FJ's) corner. I was not aware that the Leak/Lake brothers had actually purchased crown allotment 18 from Blooming Bob White, but Frederick and William Leak were assessed on 150acres on 29-7-1889. For once the rate collector got it right! After the sale flopped because of the dispute over lot 86, Robert White was again assessed on 19-7-1890 and 18-7-1891.

The loan document stated that the block had been sold off by this chappie.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 18 February 1874 p 3 Advertising
... on .Saturday, February 21, at thrco o'clock. THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 26. BROADFORD. Wannaeue, County of Mornington. SALE by PUBLIC AUCTION Of 152a. 2r. 16p., Parish of Wannaeue, County of Mornington. And By Order of tho Executors of CHARLES BLAKEY, Deceased. For Positive and Absolute Sale. Without the ... 9204 words

Frederick and William Leak were later (about 1910 I think)in dispute with William Jamieson, a pioneer of the Rosebud Fishing Village, over what was probably part of that two acre block,but unfortunately due to shocking digitisation, I haven't been able to re-find the article. If I do stumble across it,it will be included in my EARLY ROSEBUD journal under crown allotment 18.

COLLINS and COLLINGS. Maiden names in the Robert White genealogy way back, in Scotland.
AULT. A Dromana carpenter who later bought 140 acres south of William Henry Blakely's 140 acres (which has the Red Hill Consolidated School in its north west corner) and west of James McKeown's grants. Henry Ault painted the original Red Hill School at the north end of Arkwells Lane in 1875 for seven pounds fifteen shillings.
HILL. James McKeown, Red Hill Pioneer who moved to Gracefield in Dromana circa 1885, married Catherine Townsend Hill of Warrnambool.
CLEINE. Son in law of the McIlroys. See THE RED HILL.
HOPCRAFT. William and John Hopcraft were granted land either side of Mornington-Flinders Rd near the north end of Tucks Rd and were near the Hillis and Davey grants and Henry Ault's 140 acres.
KEMP. Red Hill pioneer who was granted land in the parish of Kangerong on the east corner of McIlroys and Bowrings Rds between Blooming Bob White's 27 acres and the McIlroys and Forest Lodge to the east.
SIMPSON. See Joseph Simpson in my pioneer pathway JOURNAL. McIlroy in law.
HUNTLEY. South of Little Bridge Farm and east of another McIlroy grant farmed by Charles Cleine. Joseph McIlroy leased the Huntley's Hillside Orchard for five years. Sir Thomas Bent married one of John Huntley Senior's daughters and Cr John Shand married John Huntley Jnr's widow, Mary (nee Hope.)
BENNETT. Farmed Seven Oaks and Kent Orchard south of Craig Avon Lane. William Rd near the ArthursSeat summit is named after A.E.Bennett's son and executor,William.
ANDERSON. Yetta Ward Anderson supplied an anecdote about William and Joseph McIlroy and their strawberries. (P.22.)
PROSSER. See above.
CAIRNS. See my numerous journals about this family. Maiden name in the Robert White genealogy. A Robert White was leasing a hut from the Cairns brothers at Boneo in 1864. Both families came from Clackmannan near Menstrie; Robert White senior died at Menstrie Hill, Rosebud and Alex Cairns called his grant "Menstrie Mains".
PATERSON.RUSSELL.Both of these are maiden names in the Robert White genealogy.Perhaps the Cairns, Patterson and Russell families of Wannaeue and Fingal, with so many marital connections,were neighbours near Clackmannan before they set off to Australia. See LAND IN WANNAEUE AND FINGAL OWNED BY THE CAIRNS AND THEIR IN-LAWS and the CAIRNS GENEALOGY journals.

DAVEY. James Davey was descended from the pioneering Davey family of Frankston. The Davey pre-emptive right in the parish of Frankston was on the beach side of Old Mornington Rd from the Sweetwater Creek Crossing (Dory's Gully)to Canadian Bay Rd. The Davey homestead "Marysville" was demolished when "Marathon" was built if my memory serves me correctly. James Davey was granted land in Kangerong (Forest Lodge), 14A Balnarring (the Shand/Huntley "Kentucky" and "Rosslyn", houses now 214 and 212 Bittern-Dromana Rd)and land east of White's Rd farmed by Bullocky Bob White (born Robert James), his wife Hannah (nee Roberts) and their descendants.

BULLOCKY BOB WHITE was Blooming Bob White's nephew and the detail about his name change is in my journal about HILL HILLIS AND THE TWO BOB WHITES but not in the book.

Toolaroo's book has fantastic maps showing all the land grants superimposed on present day maps. Who's heard of slavery in Scotland and farms smaller than a house block in Ireland. By the time I'd read about these things, I fully understood why our pioneers would want to leave their homeland and familiesforever. Cairns descendants would love this book because of the maps and articles about the Menstrie area. Even the information about the Kew Lunatic Asylum was of great interest.

I don't know whether toolaroo had enough copies printed to have some available for purchase, but it is a terrific book which fills a void in the knowledge of the history of the Red Hill/Rosebud area. The Mornington Peninsula library and the Dromana Historical Society must obtain copies. Send a private message to toolaroo if you wish to obtain a copy.



Preparing to write about crown allotment 14 Wannaeue in my journal about EARLY ROSEBUD, I needed to check that the spelling in a ratebook entry was correct; it read "John McComb, farmer,Seaford." On trove there was plenty of evidence that McComb was the spelling of the name, mainly involving the Seaford football team. Therefore, the spelling of McCombe St near Rosebud Plaza shopping centre shows the same disrespect to our pioneers as the spelling of Cairn Rd, Rosebud (named after "Back Road Bob" Cairns of "Fernvilla")and William Crescent, Rosebud West (named after Edward Williams of "Eastbourne".)

I had suspected from the start that John McComb was a member of the pioneering Frankston family!

The journal has had to be written as a serial in comment boxes. The surnames list is in the journal as an insurance policy in case any names disappear.


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Refer to the article, The Boneo Bradman on page 46 of the 12-10-2010 issue of Mornington Peninsula Leader and The Cairns Family of Boneo by Peter Wilson.
Rays family farm in Fingal was called Maroolaba. Ray is the grandson of the original Robert Cairns and one of the three children (all boys) of Hill Harry Cairns and Mary Agnes, daughter of Michael and Mary Cain. Michaels wife was a Neville; this family lived in South Melbourne and each time Mary Agnes was close to her time, she would stay with her mothers parents, where medical attention would be available. She would stay there until each child was 10 days old and then catch the steamer to Dromana where Harry would pick her up.

Michael Cain was a carpenter who moved far and wide to get work. After marrying Mary Neville, he went to Moe and also ran a hotel in Gippsland. He later spent time in Adelaide in 1876 when Mary Agnes was born.
Ray went to Andersons School (on Andersons Barragunda) until he was 10 and then attended Boneo School, at Blacks Camp, until (like most children) he completed grade 8 (Merit Certificate). Andersons School had a lot of children attending because of the lighthouse keepers families. The lighthouse keepers would work part of their roster looking after lights on the islands.

When the surname of a 1950 lighthouse keeper, Munro, was mentioned with the same name repeated in the Rosebud directory, Ray said that a Munro did the mail run to the Schanck in the 1950s. Letters would be delivered to roadside letter boxes three days a week. However if people wished to post a letter, they had to take it to Rosebud.
(The Munro family had been pioneers at Somerville. See THE WAY WE WERE BY Leila Shaw.)
At Maroolaba, the family initially grew potatoes and hay, which were marketed at Rye and Sorrento with Stringers store a major buyer. The hay was cut into chaff and bagged. The family would transport their produce and the boys would ride on top of the load to visit Grandma Cain at Rye.

Keith McGregor grew up opposite Maroolaba and lived there with his wife Mabel (daughter of Robert Adams of McCrae) and was probably about 40 when he bought Jimmy Williams fish, rabbit and passenger run to Mornington and extended it to Melbourne in about 1920 with a Ford T van. The interviewer mentioned that Mabel McGregor was assessed on 60 acres of the Adams grant (between The Avenue and Parkmore Rd) in 1919. (Keith later sold the run to Mabels brother, Bill.)
Some discussion took place about the name Mabel and the interviewer stated that Robert Adams had married a Hopcraft girl (Lime Land Leisure P.99) and brought up the fact that John Hopcraft had been farming land on Mornington Flinders Rd (Melway 190 D7) in 1879. Ray had heard of the family but had not really known them.
In relation to the fact that rate records often did not include information on the occupations of those assessed, Ray said that people turned their hand to anything, at any given time, that would put food on the table, and that many had no permanent job.

As a schoolboy, Rays daily chores on the farm included milking the cows twice a day, feeding the calves, cutting wood and gathering kindling, feeding the chooks and collecting the eggs. Like most farms there was a small orchard and vegetable garden whose harvest along with dairy produce and the occasional slaughtered animal put food on the homesteads table; the distance from markets dictated that most production was of the subsistence variety.

Watering relied mainly on precious tank water but Ray described how a spring, common in the high country, could be opened up. This was how Samuel Smythe, a Flemington tanner, would have provided water for his wattle plantation on Arthurs Seat. A hole about 4 feet by 3 feet would be dug around the soak and this would be boxed in before it could collapse on itself. As the hole was deepened, more (six inch wide, one inch thick) boards would be added until it was about 6 feet deep, at which point a siphon would be put in to water areas lower than the well.
When asked about work on the farm after he left school, Ray mentioned two tasks that occupied much of their time. The first was fencing. The second would have provided much of their meat while eradicating a pest; trapping rabbits. The women were occupied at bottling (preserving) the orchard harvest as well as carrying out all the household chores such as washing and ironing with primitive implements, which carried the risk of burns and scalds. Baking bread was another important task.

Ray then brought up the subject of Selection. Hugh Glass, Big Clarke and others had used dummy bidders to perpetuate the squatting era but the selection legislation was designed to overcome this tactic. Before the Crown would issue a grant, a selector had to be in occupation for three years and make certain improvements such as dwellings and fences.


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Would you believe it? This journal was to be about ROSEBUD:FLOWER OF THE PENINSULA and now I can't find it. However, while I stumble around trying to find it again,here's something to go on with.

Early days in Rosebud, Victoria |;
The T-Model Ford was owned by Bert White (I think, I'll check), and the tree had grown over the road, been blown over a little more as far as it would go as a ...

Life in Rosebud in the early years |;
By Owen Vincent (Vin) Burnham. When I was quite young (about seven, early 1920s) the Nepean Highway was a gravel and dirt road right up to Frankston from ...

In the latter, Vin is confused regarding Judith Durham. The house was a timber one on the west side of Durham Place midway between the highway and the beach according to Judith who spent her first six summers there before her family moved to Tasmania. The Mr Durham mentioned was Tony Durham, Judith's grandfather. Tony was the child of his mother,Emily (nee King)and a Greek fisherman, whose surname is unclear. After his death, Emily married Mr Durham whose surname was adopted by Tony. His daughter married William Alexander Cock and in July 1943 Judith was born (Judith Mavis Cock) in Essendon while her father was earning his the war. Her great grand-mother,Emily, was the sister of Elizabeth who married Forti Lacco,original grantee in the fishing village on the very block on which Emily's house stood,and patriarch of the famous wooden-boat building family.

I mentioned Chatfield's hut on the foreshore at Rosebud West in my journal about Rosebud Ted finding James George dead. When Chatfield turned to store-keeping, Axel Vincenttook over his foreshore hut and presumably his boat and gear.

Finally found it. Google: <vp1414.pdf>. Then click on "View a 9.6 MB pdf file of the pamphlet."

My aim in this journal, covering the area north of Eastbourne Rd,is four-fold.
1. To outline the squatting era,the parish and grantees and explain why the population was so small.
2. To deal page by page with any errors in ROSEBUD: FLOWER OF THE PENINSULA and provide extra detail.
3. To deal page by page with any errors in Vin Burnham's history and provide extra detail.
4. To describe detail in a map drawn by an unknown pioneer of residents in the fishing village and across the road.

Wannaeue is the name of the parish bounded by Burrell Rd in Dromana (*which you won't find on Melway), Mornington-Flinders Rd and part of Main Creek, Limestone Rd and Weeroona St/Government Rd in Rye and the Port Phillip Bay coast. Fingal was to the south, Nepean to the west, and to the east Kangerong and Balnarring separated by Arthurs Seat/Red Hill Rds.
*Burrell Rd is shown on the Dromana Township map as its western boundary between the Esplanade (as the beach road was named in Dromana,Rosebud and Rye) and the north-south section of Latrobe Pde.

As the Sullivan's Bay settlement near Sorrento was in the parish of Nepean, and Matthew Flinders and his nephew (later Sir John Franklin) were in Kangerong when they used Arthurs Seat to survey the bay, it is probable that the first white men to set foot in Wannaeue were sealers. Hollinshead mentions that an early explorer (Captain Murray in 1803?) found huts near the mouth of Chinaman's Creek (which at that time and until Ned Williams dug the channel was opposite the Rosebud Hospital site.) William Buckley's trek around the bay probably came after the sealers had killed off the seals and abducted many Boon-wurrung women whom they took to Tassie;this is why most Boon-wurrung descendants come from Tassie.

After John Batman had made his one-sided treaty to obtain a huge area north and west of the bay for the Port Phillip Association, he boasted in John Pascoe Fawkner's Cornwall Hotel in Launceston that he was the greatest landowner in the world. (THE LIFE AND TIMES OF JOHN PASCOE FAWKNER by C.P.Billot.) Fawkner may have already hatched plans for his own invasion but you could imagine how this spurred him into action. He immediately chartered a vessel but unfortunately it had to finish a previous charter. Eventually Fawkner and his party boarded the Enterprize but the Master refused to take Fawkner,who was put ashore in Queens Town to settle his financial affairs. Fawkner later gave sea-sickness as the reason he went ashore!

Captain Lancey was put in charge of the party which included Evans who established Emu Bottom near Sunbury. He was given instructions to try Westernport first but was unimpressed and entered the bay. A 1935 article,based on Lancey's diary gives exact dates for this and other incidents as they sailed up the bay and can be retrieved from my DROMANA ROSEBUD AND MILES AROUND ON TROVE if requested. The party landed near Rosebud but was also unimpressed by their walkabout.

Wannaeue included three squatting runs and possibly five. The Boniyong Run included part of the parish of Fingal,Tootgarook was in the area now carrying the name, Arthurs Seat probably included the parish of Kangerong (except for Jamieson's Special Survey), Wooloowoolooboolook was probably between Old Cape Schanck Rd and Boneo Rd and Captain Henry Everest may have had a 750 acres Run adjoining the Arthurs Seat Run at Adams Creek (The Avenue) and extending south to Hove Rd.

In 1843, Owen Cain established Tyrone west of Rye, and soon after, his four and a half year old daughter, Sarah, went missing for four days and nights.She heard searchers calling but didn't answer because she feared that the sounds came from aborigines. Near dead she was taken to George Smith's Wooloowoolooboolook Station where Mrs Smith (related to Captain Hobson of the Rattlesnake,according to Spencer Jackson in BEAUTIFUL DROMANA)nursed her back to health.

The date of Captain Henry Everest Adams' arrival at Adams'Corner (Wattle Place) is shrouded in mystery. The amazing thing is that Adams' folklore mentions a 750 acre property (which is wrongly called a grant.) It was supposed to have been given to him as a reward for carrying convicts. Victoria prides itself on not having been a convict colony and turned away the Pentonvillians but I know when convicts were imported. It's all on trove! In about 1841 there was a severe labour shortage and the authorities imported ticket of leave men from Van Dieman's Land until the Bounty passengers from England ( such as Oliver and Sarah Wilson, subjects of one of my journals)started to arrive.

The Dromana Pioneer Pathway plaque states that the Captain arrived in 1845 but later the Dromana Historical Society decided he had beached his ship in the area about five years earlier. The home he built with the ship's timbers was on the site of the McCrae Car wash. This was on crown allotment 20 Wannaeue, between The Avenue and Parkmore Rd and South to Cape Schanck Rd (the freeway)which was not available for selection in the 1850's and was sold as the Village of Wannaeue in about 1877.

Next paragraph in comment 1.(Purves,Barker, Burrell.)

When the land in Wannaeue was made available for selection, crown allotment 19, between Parkmore Rd and Adams Avenue, was selected by Isaac White. It is not clear which Isaac White this was but it could have been the following:
On the 33rd inst., suddenly, at Prahran, of apoplexy, Mr. Isaac White, aged 58 years. Friends please to ac-
cept this notice. (P.4, Argus, 25-7-1854.)

In the first Kangerong Road Board assessment of 3-9-1864,Henry Everest Adams was rated on a seven roomed house and 91 acres (N.A.V. 30 pounds) but the NAV was unchanged on 5-9-1865 when the assessment included 191 acres (Isaac White's grant.)

Crown allotment 18, between Adams Avenue and Jetty Rd, and consisting of 152 acres 2 roods and 16 perches, was granted to G.H.Warren. Between Jetty Rd and the line of Norm Clark Walk was c/a 17 of 129 acres 2 roods and 28 perches, granted to R.Glover and J.Wallace on 16-5-1856. Between there and about Fifth Avenue was c/a 16 of 115 acres, granted to H.Stratford and J.Ridgway on 13-6-1856. Crown allotment 15, of 101 acres 1 rood and 8 perches extending west to First Avenue,was granted to R.M.Owens on 13-6-1856. Crown allotment 14 of 116 acres 3 roods and 38 perches was granted to Hugh Glass.

All of the allotments mentioned (17-14) extended south to the government road (Eastbourne Rd.) Hugh Glass probably bought c/a 14, between First Avenue and Boneo Rd, as a holding paddock for stock being driven to Melbourne COMMENT 2.


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DROMANA. Mr James George,a very old resident of Rosebud, was found dead in his bed on Tuesday by Mr E. Cairns. Deceased was 83 years of age, and has been residing in the district for upwards of 40 years. Prior to coming to Australia, he served for a number of years in the British navy. He was the recipient of an old age pension, and has been living alone in his little hut at Rosebud for a very long time. He was held in the highest esteem by those who knew him as an honest and upright man. The remains were interred in the Dromana cemetery on Wednesday.
(P.2,Mornington Standard, 7-6-1906.)

There is a photo of James George in Peter Wilson's ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD. On page 22, Peter stated that "Old George" was a Greek fisherman, born in Greece in 1819 who arrived in Australia in 1877 and was naturalised in 1899. James made his own rabbit skin boots. If I remember correctly the photo shows James outside his hut.The hut was on the foreshore but he was not assessed on it in 1900 so it must have been outside the boundaries of the Rosebud Fishing Village,perhaps near the Village Green. For some reason, the council must have been unable to levy rates on fishermen squatting on the foreshore such as Old George,Chatfield at Rosebud West and Walter Burnham near the skateboard ramp area at the end of Boneo Rd. Although Henry Bucher was on the fishing village site in 1863, he was not assessed until the Rosebud Fishing Village was declared.

On Page 15 of ROSEBUD:FLOWER OF THE PENINSULA,Isobel Moresby started a discussion of old identities with:
Old George the Greek, massive and curly headed,sat on a bench outside his doorway. (Actually they were my limited notes.) I have found Isobel's book online. It has more description of Old George and the photo outside his hut (without a caption.) See my journal EARLY ROSEBUD, VIC., AUST.

ROSEBUD, Near Dromana.-Three-roomed furnished COTTAGE to LET. Apply to Edward Cairns, Rosebud.

Edward Cairns,the only descendant of the three original Cairns brothers to have this given name, still managed to acquire the nickname of Rosebud Ted despite the lack of need that existed in the case of Eleanora/Blacks Camp Davey, Carrier/Hill Harry etc. According to a map of early Rosebud,the above cottage was probably across McDowell St from the Safeway site. Ray Cairns mentioned Ted Cairns living on Blacks Camp Davey's grant across Boneo Rd from the Cape Schanck turn off but that was probably much later than 1906. It is likely that Ted made some money each summer by leasing his cottage to holiday makers with his own family roughing it for that period.

Rosebud Ted would have been back in the cottage well and truly by June each year, thus his unpleasant discovery in the fishing village.

BONEO AND FINGAL IN 1902, MORNINGTON PENINSULA, VIC., AUST. (Cairns,Crichton, Russell, Williams, Patterson etc.)

Round Flinders and Kangerong, BY VIATOR. "Blow winds and crack your cheeks," but whether the wind cracked its cheeks or not it certainly did blow on Tuesday, 17th inst., when I started on my ride round. Starting from Dromana and on through Rosebud to Boneo (the proper name of which, by the way, is Boniyong), I found all crops looking very well indeed. At present the only crops showing are oats for hay, and with a fair season there should be a good return. Messrs Cain and the Cairns family--or I should rather say- clan and Crighton, have areas varying from 10 to 50 acres under hay, and the last-named has a considerable area under barley for his cows. About 30 acres of the old house paddock of the Barker's estate are under crop so that the purchasers have not lost much time in commencing operations- The blocks sold are all fenced with wire and netting and there is really good feed on the uncultivated portions. The chief business at Boneo, at present, is the milk. Messrs Crighton, with about 40 cows; Cairns and Russell, 20 cows; Williams, 20 cows; McGillvray, the same, besides Messrs Purves, Cairns and others at Green Hills, make up the greater portion of the cream suppliers to the butter factory at Mornington, and were it not for Boneo, I hear, the factory might have to shut down for want of cream. How is it that the Shoreham people do not produce more milk? I They seem to have every advantage-land that will will grow any kind of crop, ro? or otherwise-and yet they seem to make no provision for winter f g. There must be a .... woeful lack of energy on the part of the young men in that part. To return to our matter, the idea seems to have got abroad that all the Barkers' Estate is sold. This is not so. There are about 500 acres at Boneo unsold and 1500 acres about the homestead and a good part of this is really first class land, quite equal to that on which onions are now being grown, concerning which more later on: ' After passing Boneo, we come to Cairns'- in fact, to several Cairns' and Pattersons'-all of whom have con- siderable areas under crop, and, as in the other cases,all looking well. All things considered, crops looking well, good feed and milk a good price, the prospects for Boneo this season are extremely good. The only drop of bitterness in the cup that I heard of was the ravages of the bot-fly, Mr A. Cairns, senr., having lost a valuable draught mare from this cause. Mr Sherlock was called in, but what the result of his investigations are I have not heard. So much for Boneo . (To be continued.)
(P.2, Mornington Standard, 28-6-1902.)

John Cain was the son of Owen Cain who established Tyrone, between Rye and Canterbury Jetty Rd where streets are named after family members (Michael)and maiden names of wives (Murray, Neville). Hill Harry Cairns married the daughter of Michael Cain and his wife (nee Neville.) John Cain owned two crown allotments in Boneo Rd which included the high school site and the historic limestone house just south of Bunnings, in which John's unmarried daughters lived. John also had land fronting Main Creek Rd so he would have passed through Boneo quite often. In earlier days he was the correspondent for the Board of Advice, which looked after the welfare of all the schools within the Kangerong Road District. It is no wonder that Hill Harry became acquainted with a Cain girl.

Donald McGillvray had the land between Little Scotland and the Rosebud Country Club site in 1900.

Edward Williams had land on the north and south side of Browns Rd just east of Truemans Rd. He had a butchers shop in Sorrento but the competition from the H.W.Wilson& Sons must have been too strong and he moved to Eastbourne before 1900 and was looking after the grantee, Sidney Smith Crispo, one of the Peninsula's greatest characters when he died.

The 1902 article mentioned that all the blocks sold on Barkers' were wire netted. The state governmment provided wire netting loans to shire councils so that farmers could protect their farms and the nation. Once a farm was enclosed, the threat within was trapped and could be eliminated. Ten percent of the loan could be repaid each year by the shire but if the farmers didn't pay their ten percent the shire would be short of money for road maintenance. John Cain hadn't been paying his. Firstly, in case you don't know what the threat was:
The rabbit-proof fence was built to protect Western Australian crops and pasture lands from the destructive scourge of the rabbit. Introduced to Australia in Victoria in the 1850s, the pest rapidly spread across eastern Australia. By 1896 it had been found as far west as Eucla and 200 kilometres further west at Twilight Cove, near Esperance. The fence represents a unique, if inadequate, response to an overwhelming environmental problem.

Construction of the Number 1 Rabbit Proof Fence began in 1901. It stretched 1834 kilometres from the south coast to the northwest coast, along a line north of Burracoppon, 230 kilometres east of Perth. Unfortunately by 1902 rabbits had already been found west of the fence line. The Number 2 Rabbit Proof Fence was built in 1905 in order to stem their advance. Stretching 1166 kilometres from Point Ann on the south coast through Cunderdin, 150 kilometres east of Perth, the new fence joined the original fence line at Gum Creek in the Murchison area.

A meeting had been called at Dromana to deal with the council accepting a 200 pound payment by John Cain when he should have paid more. This humorous extract from the meeting report contains a dig at Boneo, detail about some of its pioneers such as Harry Cairns (most likely Hill Harry, who was Michael Cain's son-in-law) and finishes with another dig about Sidney Smith Crispo's Australian Capital City, Federanium.

A report was going about from that famous town of Boneo, from one of the petitioners' own party, that they intended suing each councillor for the recovery of interest. Mr Anderson: Kindly give the name, as the statement is not correct. Cr Clark: Very well, it was James Patterson. Mr Anderson denied that he had spoken to him on the subject. Cr Clark said it was also asserted that the council had suppressed portion of the terms of the settlement. This was at down right lie. (Applause.) He defied any man to prove such a statement. Everything that had been done in private went through the council's books, and was read to the public. Mr Harry Cairns, another Boneo representative, had criticised the council in the Standard for dealing with the subject in committee. Mr Cairns was not an authority upon municipal matters,-in fact he was not aware that he was an authority upon anything. (Laughter.) When a question of law was involved, he considered the council was quite justified in going into committee. (Applause.) He was not siding with John Cain in the matter-it was a scandal that the money should have been owing -but had the council gone to law the first man they would have had to prosecute would have been Robert Anderson. He thought there would have been more trouble to get the-200 pounds out of " Bob " Anderson than there would out of " Jack" Cain. (Laughter.) Mr Anderson : I'm not " Bob " to you. (Renewed laughter.) The Chairman requested Cr Clark to avoid personalities. Cr Clark said there was no more show of getting any interest from John Cain, as there was of Boneo getting the Federal capital. (Laughter.) (P.5, Mornington Standard, 1-7-1905.)

Mornington Standard (Vic. : 1889 - 1908) Thursday 5 May 1898 Edition: MORNING. p 2 Article
... 'Federanium.' The streets a mile and two miles long. S: 8. CRISPO ...

Mornington Standard (Vic. : 1889 - 1908) Thursday 17 May 1894 Edition: MORNING. p 2 Article
... sugar beet and sugar making. The 'meeting was convened by Mr. S. S. Crispo of Eastbourne, Rosebud, who ... that the meeting considers it advisable to cultivate sugar beet for the purpose of sugar making, seeing that the land about Boneo district is suitable. The motion was carried and Mr. Crispo then read ... 863 words