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PATRICK TOMUT WEE WEE. ( Is this name fair dinkum?)
Patrick's grave in the Rye Cemetery has been restored by the Rye Historical Society which also supplied an informative plaque.

The first time I wrote about the tragedy, I couldn't resist using the title of Wee Wee in the Bay, but it could have been even smuttier if I'd realised that all four quarrymen were named Richard.

I thought that Isobel Moresby's claim in ROSEBUD FLOWER OF THE PENINSULA about Maoris living at Rosebud was wrong until I read about the tragedy. Nelson Rudduck arrived in Dromana in 1871 when the incident would have been fresh in everyone's mind and he mentioned the Maoris at Rosebud in great detail three decades later.

In response to the enquiries of "New Zealander" in last issue, Mr N. Rudduck, of Dromana, has kindly supplied the following re the Maoris who at one time were living here: "There were nearly 20 Maoris fishing at Rosebud about 1865. They afterward moved to what became known as the Maori farm beyond Rye.Some of them (Patrick and Timmo) got drowned by the capsizing of a boat taking a passenger to Queenscliff, and are buried in the Rye cemetery.One named Paul died in Geelong hospital. Peter Kanaks died in the Melbourne hospital, where I think Paul's three children (Napper, Minnie and George) also died. Paul's wife and another woman named Mary Ann eventually were taken from here to New Zealand by a deputation who came over for them, as one of them was of royal blood." (P.2, Mornington Standard, 26-7-1902.)

SOME BACKGROUND TO NELSON'S LETTER AND THE FOLLOWING.
Timmo, not mentioned below, must have been Patrick's fishing partner.His body may have been found later. His name, like that of Napper, seems to be a nickname. A napper broke up limestone in preparation for burning. Timmo may have had an early kiln just west of Timm's Corner (cnr. Hiscock and Boneo) as shown in LIME LAND LEISURE. The Tootgarook hotel mentioned would have been William Cottier's hotel of that name (on land now occupied by Ray White and the shop on the east side of Shark Shack) established in 1867 and renamed the Rye Hotel by his former partner, John Campbell in about 1872. The original Tootgarook Hotel on the pre-emptive right near today's Leonard St was not mentioned after 1857 when Peter Purves applied for a licence.

FATAL ACCIDENT IN THE BAY.
SUPPOSED LOSS OF FIVE LIVES.
Last Sunday evening, about five o'clock, a Maori fisherman, named Patrick Tomut Wee Wee, living at Rosebud, near Dromana, was drinking in the bar of the Tootgarook hotel, at Tootgarook, and conversing with four young men named respectively Richard Knott, Richard Barry, Richard Abbott, and Richard Bellinger, who wanted him to take them to the Quarantine ground, where they were employed by Mr Muir, a contractor, as stonemasons.

The party left the hotel, and went in the direction of the pier, but it appears no one saw them go into Wee Wee's boat. Later in the evening, Christian Miller, a seaman employed on board of the fore-and-aft schooner Result, anchored off the pier at Tootgarook, was on board his craft, when she was suddenly struck by a heavy squall, which came from the westward, with a heavy sea, which was running mountains high.

Whilst he was engaged in attending to the vessel he heard a voice calling out in the water, and on looking out saw a man, clinging to a boat that was capsized. He was about 150 yards from the Result, and Miller could not give him any assistance. The boat drifted away in the direction of Rosebud, and was very soon out of sight. Miller could not tell whether the man was a Maori or not.

Michael Cain, a labourer, residing at Point Nepean, was riding along the beach from Rye to Dromana, and he and his brother saw the body of the Maori fisherman, Wee Wee, which they brought on shore. There were no marks of ill usage on the body, and there were no other bodies about. An inquest was held on the deceased, on Wednesday, by Mr.Candler, and it was elicited that the young men had not been heard of, though diligent inquiries had been made for them. The jury returned a verdict of "found drowned" off Rosebud, and expressed an opinion that he was accidentally drowned in a squall whilst conveying some passengers from Tootgarook to the Quarantine station. (P.3, Williamstown Chronicle, 1-1-1870.)

DOES WEE WEE MEAN TRIBE, ACCEPTING OF FRENCH SQUATTERS OR VERY SMALL?
How would Patrick have obtained such a name as Wee Wee? I have found three possibilities, Maori, French and Scottish. The Maori word for tribe is iwi or wiwi; the French, generally disliked by the Maoris, were called wee wee because of their word for yes; and because of heavy Scottish migration to N.Z. the word wee for little was commonly used there and still is.

If you happen to find an early photo of post office, Rosebud, it will probably show the Roberts/Brady/McConchie post office at front left (near the present Peebles store site) with the Rudduck store, then a general store about 75 yards away (according to Peter Wilson.) This photo would have been taken before 1920 when William C. Twyford transferred the post office to the Rudduck store. In 1923 the new post office was burnt down and rebuilt with a longer frontage,which was purchased in the same year by Edwin James Wheeler, the new postmaster. Wheeler conducted the post office in number 1045, selling the other shops, numbers 1039-1043 to Stephens in 1929 and in 1937 transferred the post office to a new building at 1047, now the Ninth Avenue Cafe.

While the Roberts and Rudduck stores were very early stores, they were far from the first.

A CHRONOLOGY.
The "Rosebud" was beached in May 1855 according to a report of the Purves v Smyth insurance case in 1855 and the wreck may have been driven farther to the location of the cairn by June 2, the date on the cairn. The first land offered for subdivisional blocks, on crown allotment 20 Wannaeue between Adams Creek (The Avenue) and the line of Parkmore Rd was described as being at Rosebud.
VILLAGE LOTS.
County of Mornington, parish of Wannaeue, at Rosebud, adjoining Burrell's pre emptive section, on Port Phillip Bay. Upset price. £8 per acre. Allotments 1 to 23. 2 roods to la. Sr. 30p. (P.3, Argus, 14-4-1870.)

The land didn't sell well and was described as being in the Village of Wannaeue later in the 1870's. Locals didn't call the area Rosebud, but "The Rosebud" and continued doing so until about 1920 according to the late Ray Cairns who as a boy looked forward to the excursions to Martin's Corner and the beach near "The Rosebud" (despite all visible signs of the wreck having been removed by the locals in the 1890's according to an account in an article in Mick Dark's collection if I remember correctly.)

The majority of Rosebud residents were fishermen and paid no rates to the Kangerong Road Board. In 1873-4 they did so for the first time. Those who previously held a crown lease on their blocks under the terms of their fisherman's licences seem to have been given the opportunity to buy these blocks in the Rosebud Fishing Village in August 1872 without competition (like a pre-emptive right.) But before then a poundkeeper near Cliffords Rd at Somerton had bought crown allotment 18 Wannaeue,152 acres between Adams Avenue and Jetty Rd and tried to sell it in lots of about 2 acres. He only sold lot 86, 2 acres on the FJ's corner, in 1871 (1), to Jack Jones one of the fishermen on the foreshore.
(1) Lake v Jones; sketch of title on memorial in Harvey Marshall's scrapbook documenting a loan of 128 pounds given to William Edwards by Captain Henry Everest Adams in 1878 showing that lot 86 was on the east corner of Jetty and Pt Nepean Rds extending south to about Morgan St.

Jack Jones bought c/a 6 of the fishing village (now 854 and 856 Pt Nepean Rd)on 11-8-1872 and Daniel Coyle bought c/a 10 (immediately west of the Banksia Point complex now being built) on 16-8-1872, most other fisherman buying their blocks at about that time.

THE FIRST STOREKEEPER.
Daniel Coyle has never been mentioned in Rosebud histories except for the above details in ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD with a quote from Isabel Moresby's ROSEBUD FLOWER OF THE PENINSULA about Granny Coyle of saintly character running a lolly shop. Jack Jones is said to have run a store in an upturned boat on c/a 6 and Ethel Fountain's memoirs and her sister's EARLY ROSEBUD map both mention his store on c/a 6 being burnt down. You'd put your money on Jack being the first storekeeper wouldn't you? I did!

Rate records were pathetic in regard to their legibility on the microfiche, the lack of detail about occupiers, owners and description of properties and even the year of assessment and names of ridings. I learnt to identify the ridings by the names of ratepayers and their number of acres! However, year by year research on certain ratepayers, on top of transcriptions of all Kangerong and Wannaeue assessments in 1864, 1879, 1900, 1910 and 1919 has allowed me to answer many questions. The jigsaw pieces fit very neatly together!

In 1873-4, DANIEL COYLE was assessed on 1 allotment and 3 roomed house, Rosebud, N.A.V. 6 pounds, as he was in 1874-5. In 1875-6he was assessed on the same property but he was described as a storekeeper and the net annual value increased to 7 pounds. The same details continued until 1882-3 when his name was recorded but the rates were paid in December 1882 by ? White who turned out later to be Thomas White, cutler. Daniel and Granny Coyle had moved to Mordialloc where they seem to have lived out their days. Was it at that time that Jack Jones decided to commence a store in an upturned boat?

From 14-9-1877 to 30-7-1881, Jack Jones, fisherman was assessed on one allotment, Rosebud, N.A.V. 5 pounds. By 29-7-1882, Jack was described as a storekeeperand was assessed on TWO allotments and buildings, N.A.V.8 pounds. Have you realised something? The judge in Lake v Jones (or the reporter) got it wrong or the rate collector took a decade to wake up that Jack Jones had bought lot 86 crown allotment 18 Wannaeue in 1871. The block had definitely been sold by Charles Blakley before 1878 as shown by the aforementioned loan memorial.

In view of the fact that a rate collector took a decade to realise that Cr James Little Brown was not "John Brown", and the lack of thoroughness mentioned above (which caused Cr Terry's resignation as detailed in my Shire of Flinders journal), my money is on the rate collector being a decade behind reality. Besides, if Jack had bought lot 86 in 1881, he would have bought it from Blooming Bob White, completely at odds with the report of the trial. Read the court report re Jack buying his 2 acres on c/a 18 Wannaeue and building his new store in 1883-4, at which time the store (no longer an upturned boat)on c/a 6 must have been a pile of ashes.

" During the negotiations for purchase of land, Mr Jones who by this time was old and trembling, told my father that his original store was built on "The Pines" site, but was burnt down and he transferred his business to Jetty Rd corner, as he considered it more central opposite the jetty." Ethel Fountain.

LAW REPORT. SUPREME COURT. EQUITY COURT. FRIDAY, SEPT. 13. (Before His Honour Mr. Justice A'Beckett.) LAKE V. JONES.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 18 September 1889 p 11 Article

So far we have (1)Daniel Coyle 1875-1882. (2) Jack Jones 1882-1910+ but there was another storekeeper before 1900 whom the rate collector called Loui.

Louis Anderson was Rosebud's post master 1890-1897 during which time he was assessed on 1 lot and buildings, Wannaeue. In 1897-8 his name was crossed out and replaced by that of John Roberts, occupant of lots 41 and 42 crown allotment 17 Wannaeue, owned now by Mrs Roberts of Napier St, Ballarat, who was probably still packing belongings and farewelling friends. C/a 17 was between Jetty Rd and Norm Clark Walk/Ninth Avenue house blocks south to Eastbourne Rd. Lots 41-2 and the Roberts/Brady/ McConchie post office have been established as being near the present Peeble store, thus indicating the rough location of Louis Anderson's store. Hence we are back to the start of the journal. Louis Anderson did the first recorded fish run to the Mornington railhead, obviously before Jimmy the Squid Williams of Eastbourne.

William John Ferrier called his house in the Rosebud Fishing Village "Seven" because it was on crown allotment 7 of the village, now 858 Pt. Nepean Rd, Rosebud. Rate research led me to conclude that the present house had been built by 1894 and was thus the house that the hero of the La Bella wreck at Warrnambool in 1905 had occupied.

However, my history column in ROSEBUD RIPPLE has led to me being contacted by the grandson of George Fountain whose mother and aunt wrote histories of Rosebud, which are every bit as valuable as Isabel Moresby's ROSEBUD FLOWER OF THE PENINSULA and will become a new journal when I finish transcribing them.

As will be revealed in Laura Fountain's memories in ROSEBUD (VIC., AUST.) HISTORY ISSUING FROM THE FOUNTAINS, the PRESENT house on crown allotment 7 Rosebud Fishing Village (858 Pt. Nepean Rd, Rosebud) was NOT occupied by William John Ferrier. George Fountain bought C/A 7 from him, probably in 1916 when the Ferriers moved to Queenscliff, and demolished the cottage occupied by Antonio Bosina from 1894 till he became blind, Mrs Lennie Edwards 1903- 1910 and the Ferriers till 1916. The present house was built by George Fountain and later sold to the Archers.

Country Property
A.E.Gibson and Co. (in conjunction with JIH^uckrcll) report selling by auction on account of the estate of the late Mr J.M.Peck,Wannaeue, a brick villa and land, Pascoevale road, Pascoevale, to Mr A.T.Cook, for L1525.
(P.14, Argus, 28-8-1928.)

John Murray Peck came from New Hampshire, U.S.A. with three other young Yankees, one of whom was Freeman Cobb, in the early years of Victoria's gold rush, and formed a coach company famed in Australia's history. No prizes for guessing its name! His beautifully restored grave can be seen at the Will Will Rook Cemetery (Melway 7 B9) of which a history has recently been completed. As well as the Concord coaches, the names Mascoma, Lebanon and Hiawatha from New Hampshire (of which the Pecks were pioneers) were introduced into our heritage by the family.

Alexander McCracken, the first secretary of the Essendon Football Club and the first president of the V.F.L., was one of his sons in law. J.M.Peck was a vice president of the Essendon Football Club and wore the red and black Sturt's Desert Pea in his lapel to every game. How would I know that? Harry Huntington Peck's MEMOIRS OF A STOCKMAN which records such details about hundreds of Australian pioneers as well as his fearless coach-driving father.

William Allison Blair lived on the site of the Essendon Tech. but was hugely involved in the history of the Mornington Peninsula, establishing a virtual monopoly in the lime production there from the 1860's. His battles with Charles Gavan Duffy to acquire land through selection caused nightmares for the members of the Land Board and according to Sidney Smith Crispo led to a suggestion by him that one parcel of land in dispute between them should be proclaimed as the Village of Sorrento. Blair bought much land south of the Rye township, obtaining the kilns of many limeburners and therefore reducing competition. Blair also bought the land between Elizabeth Avenue and Truemans Rd in Rosebud West. This happened to be in the parish of WANNAEUE.

John Murray Peck became one of Australia's foremost stock and station agents and a renowned cattle salesmen, often selling at Newmarket Saleyards. He built a house at Ascot Vale called Mascoma and Alexander McCracken's mother who lived across Mount Alexander Rd could hear his booming voice from Ailsa (later Mercy college and now a Scientology property.) In 1882, he moved into Lebanon at today's Strathmore whose driveway was Peck Avenue.

John Murray Peck probably had the house, whose site is now occupied by Red Rooster at the east end of the footbridge that takes pedestrians over Pascoe Vale Rd from Peck Avenue, built for his daughter as a wedding present. His son, Harry, built the heritage-listed Hiawatha at the top of Kilburn St and he'd want a nice house for his daughters too. Alexander McCracken's North Park on the south side of Woodland St (now the Columban Mission)was an acceptable home for Margaret so why should Minnie Waters miss out.

BLAIR - PECK.- On the 12th inst., at St. John's Church, Essendon, by the Rev. Alexander Stewart,M.A., William Allison, elder son of W. A. Blair, of Netherlea, Essendon, to Minnie Waters, younger daughter of J. M. Peck, of Lebanon, Pascoevale.(P.1, Argus, 26-4-1888.)

BLAIR.- On the 28th ult., at Wannaeue, Pascoevale,the wife of W. A. Blair, jun., of a son.
(P.1, Argus, 6-2-1889.)

Because a Hugh Peck had land at Mornington in early days, I originally thought that John Murray Peck gave the illegally demolished house its name. That was until I discovered that his daughter had married the lime merchant's namesake son!

Albert Cook was the longtime clerk of the shire of Broadmeadows. The Township of Broadmeadows, now Westmeadows, was the obvious administrative centre for the road board and then the shire because it was surrounded for years by farmland. However the subdivisions started during the land boom of the latter 1880's but thwarted by the 1890's depression were now being populated in areas such as Pascoe Vale and Glenroy. In 1928, a new council building was constructed near the Broadmeadows Station. The new office was too far from the the old shire hall near the West Broadmeadows bridge where Albert had made young Norm Woods part of his family and mentored him as a future shire secretary, which he became, at Keilor, as long-serving and respected as Albert. In any case the old building was probably going to be sold to help pay for the new one.

The Pascoe Vale kids of the 1930's called Albert's house Cook's homestead. Demolition was illegally started (in the 1980's?) but although the City of Broadmeadows responded quickly, the damage was done. A Miss Roberts had at one time owned the land between Wannaeue and the Board Track on the Strathmore High School site; she was most likely related to John Murray Peck's widow, Louisa Ellen (nee Roberts) a native of London.

PECK. - On the 5th July, at her residence,Wannaene, Pascovale, Louisa Ellen, relict of the late J. M. Peck, aged 85 years. (Private interment.) (P.1, Argus, 6-7-1928.)

I deliberately didn't correct the name of the house so that you could understand how the great Sam Merrifield, founder of the Essendon Historical Society gained the impression that the house was called Wanganui. Wannaeue was hardly a household name and was often mangled by the newspapers.

Wannaeue was put up for sale within a month after Louisa's death.

SATURDAY, AUGUST l8.
At Three O'clock. On the Property,
SALE OF VALUABLE BRICK VILLA, WANNAEUE,
AT PASCOEVALE.
WITH SPLENDID BLOCK OF LAND.
IN THE ESTATE OF THE LATE Mr. J. M. PECK.
Wannaeue is an Attractive Brick Villa of Substantial Construction, Occupying a Nice Position
on the Main road, in the Most Progressive Part of Pascoevale, and Within Cooee (220 Yards)
of the Pascoevale Railway Station, which Enjoys a Good Electric Train Service.
The Rooms Are Lofty, Under Slate roof, and Comprise Spacious Dining and Breakfast rooms,
Five Bedrooms, Kitchen, Laundry, Bath, Pantrv, Cupboards, and Cellar; Also Garage, Man's
Room, Feedhouse, Hot-water Service Installed, Electric Light, Telephone, and Sewerage Sys
tem, and Surrounded by Nice Flower and vegetable Gardens, and Fine Old Ornamental Trees.
The Land Has a Grand Frontage of About 360ft to the Main Pascoevale Road, by Irregular Depth,
Culminating In a Picturesque and Fertile Frontage to the Moonee Ponds Creek.
Altogether Wannaeue Represents a Commodious Home with Wholesome and Refined Surround-
ings, and Being for Genuine Sale tor the Purpose of Finalising Trust Matters, Buyers in
Quest of a Home of This Description May Attend the Sale in Confidence.
Title, Certifícate. Terms-One-third Cash, One-third In Twelve Months, and One-third in Two
Years. Interest, 6 Per Cent. Per Annum.
Arrangements Could be Made If a Buyer so wished to run a Cow in Paddocks Adjacent
A.E.GIBSON & CO.,
Auctioneer, 150 Queen Street, Melbourne (Te). Cent S514); and at Glenroy,
In Conjunction With
J. L. FACKRELL,
Estate Agent, Opposite Hallway Station, Pascoevale. Tel. FU6709.
(P.2, Argus, 4-8-1928.)

G6ACIOUS ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF A SHIRE SECRETARY'S WORTH.
A complimentary social evening was held at the Broadmeadows Shire Hall on the evening of the 12th inst., in
recognition of the 25 years' service rendered as shire secretary by Mr. A.T. Cook, J.P. The gathering was representative of the Broadmeadows and neighbouring councils, the ratepayers of the Shire of Broadmeadows, public bodies and the public generally. The shire hall was packed.

The president of the shire (Or. R.O. Hadfield*, J.P.) presided over the gathering. He spoke with keen appreciation of the assistance he had received at the hands of Mr. Cook,whose close attention to duty was very
striking, Mr. Cook had not missed a council meeting during the 25 years he had been in the employment of the
council. Cr. W. H. Poole, J.P., who for 23 years had been a member of the council, spoke in feeling terms of the excellent service rendered by Mr. Cook. Cr. A. F. Showers, of Essendon, the president of the Progress Association, and several others spoke in similar terms, after which the president made a presentation of a clock and a wallet of notes, to Mr. and Mrs. Cook.
(P.2, Wodonga and Towong Sentinel, 22-12-1933.)
*John Pascoe Fawkner's "Box Forest" was renamed in honour of Rupert Hadfield, not the supposed reason given on the website Australia for Everyone; Place Names.

The first reference I saw to this pioneer was in a document detailing a loan of 128 pounds and 9 shillings in August 1878 from Captain Henry Everest Adams of Rosebud to William Edwards of Dromana. The latter had mortgaged his land at Rosebud and a sketch of title mentioned Charles BLAKELEY and lot 86 of crown allotment 18 section A, parish of Wannaeue. Confusingly the solicitor had described this 2 acre block as crown allotment 86, section 18 Wannaeue as if it was a township block rather than a private subdivision. I wondered at the time if Charles was related to William Henry Blakeley, Australia's first sawmaker.

Later I saw a Charles Blakey shown as a grantee of crown allotments 1, 4, 5, 8, 9, 10, all but about 40 acres granted to John Cameron of Stony Fields (Roxburgh Park) on the north west side of Cliffords Rd, which ran from the end of Pascoe Vale Rd to Sydney Rd until it was cut off by the north eastern railway; the northern boundary of these blocks is today shown by transmission lines. Charles was also the grantee of crown allotment 6 which is fairly well indicated by the bottom half of Melway 180 D7.

It was soon after that my internet problems started and I could not access the Yuroke parish map or the Lake v Jones case regarding lot 86 of 18 Wannaeue or the 1874 advertisement of 18 Wannaeue and land at Broadford by Charles' executor. My memory came up with a combination of Blakeley and Blakey when I was discussing 18 Wannaeue.

With my internet problems overcome and pangs of guilt for possibly misleading readers, I used an idle moment to find the right spelling of the surname.

By the way, crown allotment 18 Wannaeue consisted of 152 acres and is bounded by today's Pt.Nepean Rd, Adams Avenue, Eastbourne Rd and Jetty Rd. With lot 86 on the FJ's corner excised, it only consisted of 150 acres when Blooming Bob White or his father bought it, apparently calling it or the homestead Menstrys Hill. The advertisement in 1874 forgot to mention the prior sale of lot 86. The Lakes thought they were buying the whole 152 acres circa 1888 and tried to get Jack Jones kicked off his corner block. The farm was later owned by Thomas Bamford and the Pottons (who called it St.Albans and are recalled by a street name) before being involved in the two suicides of De Garis in the late 1920's.

DEATHS.
BLAKEY.—On the 7th inst., at the Alfred Hospital,Charles Blakey, aged 61 years.(P.4, Argus, 8-7-1873.)

Advertising
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Thursday 26 February 1874 p 2 Advertising
... Wannocuo, County of Mornington And 04a Or 3Sp, Parish of Broadford By Order of tho Executors of CHARLES ... ) BROADFORD Wannaeue, t, / Couuty of Morrdngton '" SALE by PUBLIC AUCTION Of 152a. 2r >flp , ?" ' Parish of .


MONDAY, DECEMBER 7.
SOMERTON.
13 Miles from Melbourne, On tho Sydney-road.
Sole by Public Auction of Allotment 6, Section 6, Parish of Yuroke,A Short Distance Nearer Town than the Somerton Hotel.
By Order of the Executors Under the Will of the late Charles Blakey.
For Positive and Unreserved Sale.
ALFRED BLISS has been favoured with instructions from Messrs John Munday and John Kyle to SELL by PUBLIC AUCTION, at the mart, on Monday, December 7, at twelve o'clock,
That block of agricultural land, containing 34a. Or. 30p , and forming the full Crown Allotment 6 of
Section 6, parish of Yuroko.
This land is unfenced, it is first-class grazing and agricultural land, is Surroundcd by farming properties,
and was purchased from the Crown by the late Mr.Charles Blakey. Title, Crown grant.(P.3, Argus, 5-12-1874.)

I presume that the title for 18 Wannaeue had been transferred from Charles Blakey to (his son?)Richard and this extract from Lake v Jones illustrates why I was confused about the spelling of the surname.

Mr Justice A'beckett said that the facts were uncontradicted. They were that in the year 1871 the defendant who is a fisherman bought a small piece of land for the sum of 4 pounds from the then registered proprietor Richard Blakeley.
LAW REPORT. SUPREME COURT. EQUITY COURT. FRIDAY, SEPT. 13. (Before His Honour Mr. Justice A'Beckett.) LAKE V. JONES.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 18 September 1889 p 11 Article

This warning has been sounded before in regard to registration of births and deaths in country areas, especially in pioneering days where churches and towns were rare. For instance, on the Mornington Peninsula, a birth recorded as being at Point Nepean in the 1850's does not mean that the parents were living there but that an official at the quarantine station was the only registrar available. When townships were proclaimed, registrars, post offices and schools were among the perks but place names on birth and death documents could be misleading. Rye was officially called Tootgarook for well over a decade and a birth registered at Mornington could be described as being at Snapper Point, Schnapper Point or Moorooduc, the name of the parish.

Bullocky Bob White was a resident near Main Creek flowing south from Arthurs Seat for most of his life, maybe from birth and certainly until the last rate record available on microfiche in 1919. His obituary gave his birthplace as Borneo (actually Boneo, a very vague locality circa 1860) and that he died in Rosebud. His death and burial notices described him as a resident of Dromana West! See below.

Often documents and biographies (such as in VICTORIA AND ITS METROPOLIS)contain lies. Many bounty passengers lowered their ages on shipping records so they'd qualify for the heavily reduced fare. Bullocky Bob White's obituary's vague year of birth had the same purpose as Robert Henry Adams' lie on his birth certificate that his parents had married before leaving England instead of almost a decade after his birth. My great grandfather gave his year of arrival as 1867 rather than 1864 to hide his indenture to John Hall, being by 1888 a prominent resident and councillor of the Shire of Broadmeadows unwilling to reveal his humble beginnings.

From my CHRONOLOGY (FROM TROVE) OF BURIALS AT DROMANA CEMETERY etc. journal.
5-5-1941. ROBERT JAMES A.K.A. BULLOCKY BOB WHITE.
MR. R. WHITE
Born at Borneo(sic) in the eighteen-fifties*, Mr. Robert White, of Rosebud**,died on Saturday, May 3, at the age of 86*** years. The late Mr. White, whose passing is mourned by a large circle of friends, leaves a widow, a daughter and.seven sons. The funeral took place on Monday, May 5, at Dromana Cemetery.
A service was conducted at the home of Rev. R. C. McLean, who also read the burial service. A tribute to Mr. White's useful life was paid by Cr. Greaves at the graveside. He said that the large attendance at the funeral indicated the high esteem in which deceased had been held by the people in the surrounding districts The late Mr. White had been a good churchman and a fine citizen. Many beautiful floral tributes were sent.
Six of the late Mr. White's sons bore the coffin, and the pall-bearers were:- Messrs. E. Bright, G. James,D. James, J. Hobley, Ivan White, C.White and E. White.(P.5, Standard, 9-5-1941.)

(*Before his mother arrived? **Probably a Rosebud property left to him by Charles and Janet James, his parents.***About 81 if we deduct 1860 from 1941 and if we take his age as gospel, he was born in 1855 when his mother was still in the old country.)

It is generally accepted that Bullocky Bob White was born in about 1860, his mother being Janet White (born 1839 or 1844) who travelled to Australia on the John Linn, arriving in Melbourne on 25-6-1859. His father, Charles James (Born 1831, SALISBURY WILTSHIRE ENGLAND, died 23 01 1907, MORNINGTON VIC) was buried at Dromana Cemetery on what was calculated to be 24-1-1907.

Robert White's birthplace was Boneo, not Borneo but the name was used to describe the area along today's Browns Rd between Main Ridge and Truemans Rd in early days so he could have been born on the James property at Melway 254 J1 or the Cairns brothers' Little Scotland at 170 B10, where Janet's father Robert White (1804-1881) was recorded as renting a hut from the Cairns Bros. in the Kangerong Road Board's first assessment of 1864. As the exact date of Bullocky Bob's birth is not known, Charles White may not have been his biological father; Janet may have become pregnant aboard the John Linn.

The information in Bullocky's obituary was probably the result of his desire to muddy the waters when asked any questions or perhaps on his marriage certificate when he married Hannah Roberts. (Robert Henry Adams of Rosebud did the latter re the year and place of his parents' marriage to disguise his illegitimacy.)

Charles James and JANET WHITE, (Born: 1844 (?) , MENSTRIE CLACKMANNANSHIRE SCOTLAND Married: 25 07 1864, WANNAEUE VIC (MI: 2603) Died: 1921) were not married until after Bullocky was born and their first legitimate child may have been Elizabeth (born 1865) who married William Hobley. Janet's birth year above (1844) was probably from her marriage certificate and another attempt to muddy the waters. Stephen Lynch gives her year of birth as 1839 between Henry (1834) and Ann (1842). Janet' mother, Elizabeth, died shortly after giving birth to Elizabeth (1850-1850) and this was no doubt in her mind when she named her own baby in 1865.

Robert was raised as Robert Charles but that was not what his birth certificate said.He was so incensed at being kept in the dark about the the circumstances of his birth he was said to have cut contact with his mother and changed his name to that on the birth certificate, Robert White. Janet's younger brother, Robert White (born 1849) had probably moved to the Red Hill area by this time and acquired the nickname of Blooming Bob White because he never swore at his bullocks, using this word instead. His nephew, the former Robert James (under which name he was granted 27A1, Wannaeue) was referred to as Bullocky Bob White.
(Sources:PIONEERS OF THE MORNINGTON PENINSULA Stephen Lynch: charles james - Great Southern Pioneers
www.cosy.com.au/gsp/ftdisper.php?&pid=041922)

I'd tried in vain to find Bullocky's death notice with a WHITE ROSEBUD 1941 FAMILY NOTICES search on trove. No wonder I didn't find it. I seem to recall an assessment for "James" on c/a 19 Wannaeue, between Parkmore Rd and Adams Ave and this was probably where Bullocky was living when he died, and why the funeral procession left from the lighthouse. Only a year or two later his residence would have been described as being in McCrae. Family historians should take notice that the same location was likely to be described by more than one place name until about 1950, that places of birth and death may have been where the event was recorded bby a registrar or a hospital (say in Mornington or Melbourne respectively) where the mother or deceased had been admitted prior to the event because of an expected difficult birth or a serious illness/ incapacity that required expert medical care.

WHITE. —On May 3, at Dromana West, Robert, beloved husband of Mary, fond father of George, Chris, Eden, Ern, Fred, Lily (Mrs. Bright), Jack, and Will, aged 86 years. —At rest. (P.4, Argus, 5-5-1941.)

WHITE-The Friends of ROBERT WHITE late of Main Ridge are respectfully invited to follow his remains to the place of interment, Dromana Cemetery.
The funeral will leave the South Channel Lighthouse at 3 p m THIS DAY (Monday). HECTOR GAMBLE Funeral Director. (P. 4 as above.)

This journal was prompted by the similarity between L and T in old handwriting* and a rate collector's almost illegible handwriting.
(* See sample in:
How to Read 18th Century British-American Writing
dohistory.org/on_your_own/toolkit/writing.html
Something as basic to us as writing was quite different in 18th Century .... upper case K, P, and R can look similar, as can J and T. Also, at times L and S will be ..

In 1876 somebody named Rolls had replaced John Lovie on the latter's grants, 638 acres west of Boneo Rd with partial frontages to Truemans and Browns Rds. He had probably bought the property at a mortgagee's auction on 24-7-1876 and the rate collector had not had time to get all the new owner's details before the September meeting when the assessment was presented to the Shire of Flinders and Kangerong for approval.

In 1877, the new owner's initials were given but I couldn't work out whether they were J.T. or J.L. He was described as a mariner and was recorded as owner as well as occupant of the 638 acres and two roomed house which had been built by John Lovie. The link to the Wannaeue parish map can be found in the first comment under my PIONEERS OF THE PARISH OF WANNAEUE journal or you can google WANNAEUE, COUNTY OF MORNINGTON.

HOW LONG WAS J.T.ROLLS ON THIS FARM?
The answer will be found shortly. See answer at the end of the journal.

CAPTAIN ROLLS 3 WHO WENT TO SEA, AGED 15, WHEN HIS FATHER WAS OCCUPYING LOVIE'S GRANTS
Having the right initials may not seem very important but they would be for a family historian, so I tried a trove search for J.T.Rolls. Wow! First result was:
THIRD GENERATION CAPT. J. T. ROLLS AN OLD SEA DOG
Evening News (Sydney, NSW : 1869 - 1931) Thursday 23 October 1924 p 7 Article

THIRD GENERATION; CAPT. J. T. ROLLS AN OLD SEA DOG !
The Niagara left Sydney for Vancouver to-day, under Captain Showman, the fourth officer of the Union Co. fleet to assume charge of the liner. Captain Harry Morriby was the first, Captain John Gibb was the next, and Captain John T. Rolls, who has just retired, was the third.

Captain Rolls has been going to sea since 1876, having started his career out of Melbourne In the ship Ellora.
He continued in sailing ships until April, 1885, when he joined the Union Company as a junior officer on the
Wairarapa.

THIRD GENERATION.
Captain Rolls is the third generation of shipmasters. His father was a shipowner, and captain in Victoria, and his Grandfather was a retired commander in the East-India Co.,taking the ship Rhoda to Australia later, and subsequently settling in Melbourne. Captain Rolls was born in 1861 and 1924 finds him the latest recruit in the ranks of the League of Ancient Mariners.

Countless other results referred to other people with the same initials so I tried "J.T.ROLLS" and got countless articles about his (their)ship's arrival from, or departure to, various places. Next I tried Captain Rolls.

The third Captain Rolls who retired in 1924 had gone to sea at the age of 15 in 1876. Therefore the owner of crown allotments 40A and 41-3, section A, Wannaeue was probably his father.

Extract from:
THIRTY YEARS IN COMMAND. CAPTAIN ROLLS RETIRES.
The Mercury (Hobart, Tas. : 1860 - 1954) Tuesday 4 November 1924 p 4 Article

Captain Roll's parents were early pioneers of Victoria, his father arriving from Kent in 1841 and his mother
landing in Victoria some 10 years later . It was in the ship Ellora, owned by Mr John Blyth of Melbourne that Captain Rolls first went to sea in July 1876 when he was barely 15 years of age.

Captain Rolls 3 was only 15 in 1876 and unlikely to own the Wannaeue land. What about Captain Rolls 1?
I think this would be him.
ROLLS.—On the 14th inst., at eight a.m., at the residence of his son, Curzon-street, North Melbourne,
Captain John Rolls, aged sixty-one years, after a painful and lingering illness. (P.4, Argus, 17-7-1861.)

The captain's son would have been J.T.Rolls 2 (circa 1830-1910) aged about 31 who bought the Wannaeue land 15 years later.

Is this Captain Rolls 2.
Murder of Captain Rolls.
Newcastle Morning Herald and Miners' Advocate (NSW : 1876 - 1954) Saturday 1 April 1882 p 4 Article
NO! Another article gave this captain's name as Phillip.
The Murder of Captain Rolls
Evening News (Sydney, NSW : 1869 - 1931) Monday 26 June 1882 p 2 Article
... The Murder of Captain Rolls The case of the marder of Captain Philip Rolls, late master of the ... 66 words

CAPTAIN ROLLS 2, WANNAEUE PIONEER.
Is it possible that the owner of the 638 acres in Wannaeue during the 1870's was John Thomas Rolls who died at Brighton in 1910? Yes! His widow's death notice reveals that he had been a captain. He was born in about 1830 so he would have been about 11 when his father settled, 20 when his future wife settled, 31 when Captain Rolls 3 was born, and 46 when he bought Lovie's grants and his son, Captain Rolls 3, born 1861 went to sea barely aged 15.

ROLLS.—On the 28th January, at "Ravensbourne," Brighton Beach, John Thomas Rolls, in his 80th year. (Interred privately.) P.1, Argus, 31-1-1910.

ROLLS.—On the 18th March, at "Ravensbourne," Brighton Beach (suddenly), Mary Ann, relict of the late Captain John T. Rolls, in her 80th year. (Interred privately 21st.) P.1, Argus, 22-3-1910.

My purpose here is not to provide genealogy but to make ROLLS descendants aware of their family's involvement on the Mornington Peninsula. Descendants of Joseph Porta, Victoria's first manufacturer of bellows, had no idea of his grant at c/a 63 Moorooduc and (please excuse the pun), Rolls descendants could be in the same BOAT.

WHEN WAS J.T.ROLLS LAST ASSESSED ON THE 638 ACRES IN THE PARISH OF WANNAEUE? CHECK 1878+.
The net annual value of Lovie's 638 acres had been 30 pounds had been 30 pounds since 1872 if not before. John Rolls' name was not in the 1878 assessment so in searching for the new owner or occupant I looked in the net annual value column but none of the three or so properties with that value matched so I looked for Alexander Crichton's assessment. There it was at assessment number 46.
Alexander Crichton, (owner A.Crichton) 638 acres Wannaeue, net annual value 50 pounds.

That's a huge jump in the net annual value, so Alexander of Glenlee probably had plenty of revenue from Glenlee's famed cheese to achieve such a rapid improvement and had probably made an offer for the farm that John couldn't refuse. Was it in 1878 that John built Ravensbourne at Brighton?

He was obviously living close to the city by August, 1878 when he made a bid to become a director of the company below.
THE COLONIAL MUTUAL FIRE INSURANCE COMPANY (Limited)
A SPECIAL GENERAL MEETING of the shareholders of the above company will be held at the registered offices of the company, 84 and 86 Collins Street west, Melbourne, on Thursday, the 29th day of August inst,, at 2 o clock in the afternoon. (P.8, Argus, 22-8-1878.)

In 1881, John 2 was the marine surveyor for the United Australian Mutual Fire Insurance Company (Limited.)
(P.8, column 4, Argus, 18-8-1881.)

On January 28 a very old colonist,Captain John T. Rolls, passed away, after a long illness, at his residence,
"Ravensbourne," Brighton Beach, Victoria. The deceased arrived in Victoria 60 years ago, and for many years was
well known in shipping circles, but had lived in retirement for the last 37 years. He leaves a widow and two sons, Captain J. T. Rolls, of the Union S.S. Company, and Mr. W. Rolls, pastoralist, of New South Wales, also two daughters.(P.5, Examiner (Launceston), 8-2-1910.)

The above confirms that John 2 had retired just before he purchased John Lovie's 638 acres at Wannaeue by September 1875 and that he was the father of John 3 who retired in 1924. John 2 may have had another son who was about five years younger than John 3.

As the barque Veritas of this port was coming out from London, one of the apprentices, T. H. Rolls, fell from the flying jibboom into the sea, and was drowned. The accident took place on the forenoon of the 8th inst.,
when about 500 miles from Cape Otway. The vessel at the time was on the starboard tack and under topgallant sails,and although there was a moderate south-east breeze at the time, the sea was smooth. Two life buoys were thrown quite close to the young man, but whether the poor fellow had lost presence of mind, or was unconscious
from sudden fright, he did not appear to make an effort to secure either of them. A boat was also lowered, and a good look-out kept, but the search was fruitless, and young Rolls was never seen again. Captain Johnson had the barque brought to the wind, and she drifted past the life-buoys on the other tack, and remained in the vicinity of the accident for four hours. Young Rolls was between 15 and 16 years of age, and was a son of Captain J. T. Rolls, of this city. (P.22, The Australasian, 19-11-1881.)

ROLLS.— On November 12, at her residence, 1 Black-street, Middle Brighton, Jane Elizabeth, daughter of the late Captain J. T.and Mrs. Rolls, of Brighton, and sister of Captain J. T. Rolls, of Sydney.
(P.1, The Age, 14-11-1939.)

ROLLS—HEATHER.—On the 18th ult., at Wagga Wagga, N.S.W., by the Rev. W. C. Bates, William Charles, second son of Captain J. T. Rolls, of Brighton, to Phoebe, fifth daughter of the late Richard Heather, of Adelong, N.S.W.
(P.1, Argus, 6-10-1893.)

SATURDAY, MARCH 20.
On the Property. At Three O'clock.
BRIGHTON BEACH, BRIGHTON BEACH BRIGHTON BEACH, RAVESBOURNE ESTATE.SUPERIOR BRICK VILLA SUPERIOR BRICK VILLA
And 15 VACANT ALLOTMENTS. 15 VACANT ALLOTMENTS.
Under Instructions from THE EQUITY TRUSTEES' COMPANY LTD., in the Estate of J. T. Rolls.

THE HOUSE Is Known as "RAVENSBOURNE," ROSLYN STREET.
It is Constructed of Brick, and Contains (8?)Good Rooms, Vestibule, 3 Pantries, bathroom, laundry, and Scullery, and All Conveniences. It Stands on Land 80 ft. to Roslyn Street, by the Grand Depth of 300ft, Through to Champion Street, There is also Coach house and Stabling.
There also Being Land Adjoining, Which will be Offered at the Same Time.
There are
FIVE ALLOTMENTS,
Each Having Frontages of 60ft, to Were Street, by Depths of 150ft.;
Also FOUR ALLOTMENTS In Roslyn Street, Having frontages Varying from 55ft. to 79 ft., by Depths of 150ft.; and
THREE ALLOTMENTS In Champion Street, with frontages of 65ft, (69?) ft,and 79ft. Respectively, by Depths of 150 ft. ;
Also THREE ALLOTMENTS In South Road, Each Measuring 75ft by 179 ft.
TERMS, for House.-One-third Cash, Balance Within Two Months, Without Interest; or at one and two Years, with Interest at 6 Per Cent. TERMS FOR LAND.-, Cash, Balance Within One Month Without Interest or by Six Half-yearly payments; Interest at 6 percent.(etc.) (P.3, Argus, 6-3-1920.)

Ravesbourne had been put up for sale in May 1911 but obviously didn't sell.
(P.4, Brighton Southern Cross, 29-4-1911.)

John 2 and Mary Ann didn't have all our mod. cons. but they could afford a servant.

GIRL respectable, general, small family, references. Mrs. Rolls, Ravensbourne, Roslyn-rd., Brighton Beach.
(P.3, The Age, 25-7-1896.)

Well I didn't find when John 2 settled at Brighton but I've got a fair idea why he called the house Ravensbourne rather than Wannaeue and it had nothing to do with the birds in his garden.

SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE.
Hobson's bay, arrived Dec. 6.
Ravensbourne, ship,- 1150 tons, William Richardson; from London August 2nd, with three passengers
in the second cabin. (P.2, Mt. Alexander Mail, 9-12-1864.)

THE ROLLS FAMILY, PIONEERS OF 1841!

THE HILLIS / McKEOWN / WHITE / DAVEY / AULT / McILROY / SIMPSON / BUCHER / JAMES STORY.
The title has been expanded to include the families into which the children of Robert White and Hill Hillis married, as well as showing the circumstances of how Joseph Simpson and Miss McIlroy met were very similar to those of Hill Hillis and his wife - different counties but close neighbours.

HILLIS AND McKEOWN.(DAVEY, WHITE, McILROY, AULT.)

Glenone
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Glenone (from Irish: Cluain Eoghain, meaning "Eoghan's meadow")[1] is a small village and townland in County Londonderry, Northern Ireland. In the 2001 Census it had a population of 318. It is within the Magherafelt District Council area.
Portglenone lies a short distance across the Lower River Bann (to the east) and Inishrush is a short distance to the west.

Who would have guessed that Glenone Avenue at Melway 159 F9 was the name of a village in Northern Ireland? It was probably chosen for the name rather than Portglenone, where Hill Hillis and Sarah McKeown were married, because it was shorter.

In 1919 William McKeown was assessed on 23 acres and orchard, crown allotment 2, section E, Dromana. Little did the rate collector suspect that a know-all called itellya would find that crown allotment 2 consisted only of 12 acres 3 roods and 24 perches! Crown allotment 1, on which Glenone Ave. is situated, consisted of 9 a. 2 r. 16 p., was the only nearby block that could make a total of 23 acres (23 a. 2 r. 0 p.)
Arthur John McKeown had 66.5 acres on the other (east) side of Towerhill Rd in section D. His land today includes Maud St and the Shaw McKeown Reserve; Maud McKeown married Archibald Vine Shaw.
That's the end of the story and now with the help of Stephen Lynch's PENINSULA PIONEERS, we'll go back to the start.

Hill Hillis and Sarah McKeown, both children of farmers, were born on either side of the Londonderry-Antrim* border in the Irish province of Ulster. Hill was born about 1817 in County Antrim. Sarah McKeown was born about 1922 in INISHRUSH, a small country village in County Londonderry two miles east of the border town of PORTGLENONE where Hill and Sarah were married on 12-3-1846 at the First Presbyterian Church. Hill and Sarah with their children, Mary, Margaret and William, left Ireland in 1854 to escape a famine caused by potato blight which had killed over a million people and forced double that number to emigrate.

They left Plymouth aboard the S.S. OITHONA on 21-10-1854 and arrived at Portland, Victoria on 3-1-1855. Hill and Sarah settled at Belfast (Port Fairy) where Sarah (1857) and Elizabeth (1859) were born. Sarah's brother, James McKeown,had travelled from Warrnambool to Red Hill in 1862 to select 215 acres and returned to marry Catherine Townsend Hill. It is likely that Hill and Sarah accompanied the newlyweds on their trip to Red Hill because their last child, Hadassah was born in (the parish of) Banarring in 1864.

The 215 acre selection was 73AB, Balnarring, on the south side of Arthurs Seat Rd from a point opposite the Sheehans Rd corner east to Poffs. Their neighbours across the road in the parish of Kangerong, such as The Wisemans and Arkwells, had been paying rates to the Kangerong Road Board since 1864 but settlers in the parish of Balnarring (south and east of the thoroughfare now called Arthurs Seat and Red Hill Rds) paid no rates-and suffered deplorable tracks instead of roads. Having a gutful of this, they formed the Flinders Road Board which levied its first rates in 1869.

Unlike Kangerong, and the shire formed by the merger of the two road districts in 1874, the Flinders Road Board listed its ratepayers geographically rather than alphabetically, and this made it clear that Hill Hillis had 50 acres that adjoined James McKeown's 165 acres, both being on James McKeown's 215 acres for which he later received the grants (having bought them from the Crown.)

The children of Hill and Sarah McKeown and marriage year/spouses are listed below. All children of each marriage, and their years of birth, are given in Stephen Lynch's excellent PENINSULA PIONEERS, which inspired this journal.

Mary Anne (1846-1920) married James Davey (1845-1911)in 1871.
Margaret (1851-1888) married Blooming Bob White (1849-930) in 1877.
William James (1854-1924) married Annie Ault (1858-1919) in 1878.
Sarah (1857-1898) married Joseph McIlroy (1852-1935) in 1877.
Elizabeth (1859-1921) married William McIlroy (1859-1937) in 1878.
Hadassah (1864-1927) married Blooming Bob White in 1899, their only child being Vera, Stephen Lynch's paternal grandmother.


SIMPSON AND McILROY.
* This extract from my PIONEER PATHWAY, DROMANA journal illustrates how the Simpsons were indirectly related to the other families, Joseph marrying a member of the McIlroy family as did two of the Hillis girls, AND how (like Hill and Sarah Hillis) a lad and a lass could live in different counties and still be close neighbours, an ingredient in the recipe for most marriages until depressions, war service and common car ownership changed the pattern.

William McIlroy , a farmer and flax merchant of Littlebridge* , County Londonderry, Ireland, sold his property in 1859 and emigrated in 1860. My journal about Sheila Skidmore's THE RED HILL tells of how William twice raised the money to bring his family out and also explains why his eldest son, William John, called his McIlroys Rd farm LITTLEBRIDGE. On 13-9-1861, Margaret Jane and the six McIlroy children sailed from Liverpool in the Donald McKay , arriving on 7-12-1861.

Robert and Margaret Simpson, also had a farm and flax mill in County Tyrone. (The boundary between the two counties is obviously a stream which ran the flax mill as the McIlroy and Simpson farms were two miles apart, as they later were at Red Hill.) Two of their sons, Thomas James and Joseph were born in Kingsmill, Joseph on 26-11-1837. During the gold rush to New Zealand in about 1868 they migrated there. After a while Joseph went to Melbourne and contacted the McIlroys who had been close neighbours in Ireland. On 8-10-1870, he married Mary Ann McIlroy, who was born in 1849, at the Presbyterian church in Richmond.

*My efforts to find Littlebridge and Kingsmill on one map were unsuccessful. However I believe that the boundary between them was the Blackwater River and that Kingsmill might have been renamed as Windmills. Kingsbridge and Windmills combined to form a team in the Gaelic Athletic Association, the only known instance of a club's catchment area straddling county boundaries.

ROBERT WHITE (FATHER OF BLOOMING BOB WHITE b.1849 AND GRANDFATHER OF BULLOCKY BOB WHITE b. circa 1860.
Robert White (1804-1881), only child of Henry White and Margaret (nee Cairns) was born on 31-8 1804 in Menstrie* (or Menstry), Clackmannanshire, Scotland.
*Menstrie Mains, the farm after which Alexander Cairns named his grant on the north west corner of Browns and Boneo Rds at Boneo, was just south of the village of Menstrie.)

Robert married Elizabeth Russell on 20-5-1829 and they had seven children but the last died soon after her birth in 1850, as did her mother. In 1859, Robert brought his three youngest surviving children to Victoria, Janet (b.1839), Ann (b. 1842) and Robert (b.1849.) They arrived aboard the John Lynn on 25-6-1859 and probably went straight to the Cairns brothers' Little Scotland on the north east corner of Browns and Boneo Rds at Boneo.

In 1860, Janet gave birth at Boneo to a boy whose name was written on his birth certificate as Robert White. Later Janet married Charles James and the boy was brought up as Robert James but when he discovered his birth name he reverted to using it and was referred to as Bullocky Bob White. He died in 1941.

Charles James died in 1907 (P.2, Mornington Standard, 2-2-1907). Janet, called Granny James in ROSEBUD FLOWER OF THE PENINSULA, had her first ride on a train at the age of 80, probably to move to Oakleigh where she died. Both Charles and Janet were buried at Dromana.
JAMES Charles� photo 23/01/1907 84
JAMES Janet photo 5/11/1921 90 (Age is wrong. She was born in 1939.)

Ann married Henry Bucher in 1866 and started a dynasty in Rosebud that is still well represented in the area. Rose Ann, delivered on 8-9-1867 by midwife Susan Peatey, is thought to have been the first white girl born in Rosebud. There is plenty of information about the couple and their descendants in tonkin's journals, such Henry's first, but never-used, first name being Arthur.

Robert White (b.1849) was only about 11 years old when his sister, Janet gave birth to Bullocky Bob White at Boneo. The family had probably gone to Little Scotland soon after their arrival; Robert White was rated on a hut leased from Cairns Bros. in the Kangerong Road Board's first assessment in 1864. The boy became a bullocky but because he refused to swear, he substituted BLOOMING as an alternative and became known as BLOOMING BOB WHITE.

His father bought the second Rosebud Fishing Village block east of the Jetty Rd extension in 1873 and probably crown allotment 18 Wannaeue in 1875. This land was between Adams Avenue and Jetty Rd extending south to today's Eastbourne Rd. In 1881 Robert died at Menstry Hill, Rosebud, most likely the core of 19 Mitchell St which sits atop a knoll. Blooming Bob White, now 31 would have taken over ownership then if he had not already done so. His first wife, Margaret, died in 1888, and having three children aged about 9,7 and 3, he sold 18A and moved to Annie Moore's 27 acre "Glenferrie" at the north corner of White Hill Rd and McIlroys Rd in Red Hill where he could get some mothering for his children from female relatives such as Hadassah Hillis, whom he married in 1899.In 1914 Blooming Bob White and Hadassah moved to Crib Point where they died in 1930 and 1927 respectively.

OBITUARY.
MR. JAMES DAVEY.
It is with regret we have to chronicle the death, at the age of 56,of Mr James Davey, a respected resident of long standing at Frankston, which occurred at Melbourne on Friday last, Mr Davey, though years ago a sufferer on account of ill-health, had recently been exceptionally well, but an attack of cerebral hemorrhage about a fortnight ago necessitated him entering a hospital, and though he rallied somewhat, the attack proved fatal, as stated above.
The deceased gentleman, who had been living in St. Kilda for the past couple of years, was born at Gardiner's Creek, Victoria, but lived the greater part of his life at Davey's Bay, Frankston. He was the second eldest son of Mr Jas. Davey, one of the pioneers of this district, and after whom Davey's Bay was called. For some time the deceased gentleman lived at Red Hill, but the greater part of his life was passed at "Marysville," Davey's Bay, Frankston, erected by his father, Mr Jas. Davey, in 1851. Some interesting facts surround "Marysville," which was built at a cost of £2000, on elaborate lines, the slates and timber being brought over from Tasmania. In the early days "Marysville" was the mansion if the district. The old homestead was dis-mantled a few years ago by Mr A. H.Sargood, who purchased the land and erected a magnificent residence thereon,shortly after which Mr Davey moved to St. Kilda,after having spent about 40 years in the district. The deceased leaves a widow and family of six boys and four girls to mourn their loss. One of the sons, Mr Len Davey, is a resident of Mount Eliza, the others, as they have grown up, having removed to various parts. The funeral took place on Monday at the Kew Cemetery, the burial service being read by the Rev. Mr Rowells, of East Melbourne.(P.3, Mornington Standard, 4-11-1911.)

James Davey's grants near Red Hill were:
Forest Lodge, 23AB Kangerong, Melway 161F-G 11-12;
Seven Oaks, 79A, Balnarring, 161 J 11-12, from Craig Avon Lane south to Kentucky Rd corner.
c/a 28A, section B, Wannaeue, 190B 5-6 fronting Main Creek and William Rds, 158 acres 2 roods and 7 perches later divided into three 53 acre farms by Bullocky Bob White who received the grant for 27A1 immediately to the south under the name of Robert James.

The Davey Kannanuke* pre-emptive right was between Old Mornington Rd and Port Phillip Bay south to Boundary (Canadian Bay) Rd.
(*As Kananook was written in early days.)


HENRY AULT. (Photo, P.160, A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.)
Back in 2011, I made a rather daring assumption that Henry Ault of Red Hill had died in Lakes Entrance, based solely on devotion to the Methodist Church. Last night I thought I was wrong when I discovered that he'd moved to Cunningham but after an hour of trying to locate this place, I discovered that it was the original name for Lakes Entrance. Phew!

Annie Ault who married William Hillis was Henry's only sister. Henry Ault had married a Hopcraft girl. Henry was on Pitcher's 71B, Balnarring at Melway 190 E-F 5-6. his father-in-law's grants fronted the east side of the northern end of Tucks Rd, Annie's husband, William Hillis, was on 23AB Wannaeue just west of 190A 5-6, James Davey was on 28A Wannaeue at 190 B5-6, Bullocky Bob White had 27A1 Wannaeue at 190 A-B 7-8 with John Hopcraft between him and Mornington-Flinders Rd. Quite an enclave!

The White/Hillis/McIlroy/Simpson connection was strung out along McIlroys and Red Hill Rds from Blooming Bob White's "Glenferrie" at 160 K11 to 191 A8.

Extract from my Dromana,Rosebud and Miles Around on Trove.
THE AULTS AND THE METHODIST CHURCH. Henry William Ault seems to have been a lay preacher in the Methodist Church. He was listed in Wises Dromana trades directory of 1895 as a carpenter. He had lived for many years in Lakes Entrance when he died on 14-11-1934, having remained a stalwart of the church. (Gippsland Times 19-11-1934 page 1.) Harry Ault of Sale had an important task as an engineer in W.W.2. H.J. Ault moved to Mile End in South Australia and named his house Dromana.

Henry William Ault was, by 1875, leasing Joseph Pitchers grant, 72B, Balnarring, of 140 acres 1 rood and 37 perches, at Red Hill. By 1887 he appears to have purchased the block, fronting the east side of Mornington-Flinders Rd (Melway 190 E-F5) and now occupied by Mock Orchards. The end of Pardalote Rise indicates its south east corner. (Balnarring parish map, Flinders and Kangerong Shire rates.)

The Dromana Methodist church was built by Brother Ault in May and June 1878 and Henry was an original trustee, along with Rev. Lindsay, John Coles, Edward Barker, Alexander Shand, C.D.Gunson and William McIlroy. (A Dreamtime of Dromana page 124.)

'ENRY'S 'EADING OFF!
DROMANA.
On Wednesday evening, January 27th, a representative meeting was held in the Methodist Church, under the auspices of the Mission Station and the local Rechabite Tent, to bid farewell to Mr H. W. Ault and his daughter, who are leaving Dromana to reside at Cunningham. (P.2, Mornington Standard, 6-2-1904.)

MR HENRY AULT.
The friends of Mr. William Henry Ault, senior, will regret to hear that he passed away at his home, Lakes Entrance, on Wednesday last. Mr.Ault, who had been a resident of Lakes Entrance for very many years,was noted for his intense interest in nature study. He was quite an authority on the flora and fauna of the district. He maintained his interest up to the time he was forced to take to his bed some months ago. The Methodist Church also claimed much of his attention. He was a most conscientious worker in this cause, and for long his figure was a familiar object to residents of Lakes Entrance, as he made his way to the church Sunday after Sunday.(P.1, Gippsland Times.)

William Henry Ault
Born in Weeford, Staffordshire, England on 26 Jul 1818 to Joseph Ault and Frances Wilkes. William Henry married Hephzibah Mary Webb and had 6 children. He passed away on 17 Jul 1889 in Painswick, Victoria, Australia.
Family Members
Parents Joseph Ault Frances Wilkes
Spouse(s) Hephzibah Mary Webb 1822-1867
Children Henry William Ault 1845-1934, Edwin Ault 1848-Unknown,
Joseph Albert Ault 1852-1933, Alfred Ault 1853-Unknown,
Annie Elizabeth Ault 1858-1919, Herbert John Ault 1867-1869
Annie Elizabeth Ault
Born in Chinamans Flat on 1858 to William Henry Ault and Hephzibah Mary Webb. Annie Elizabeth married William Herbert Hillis (and had a child*). She passed away on 16 Apr 1919 in Trafalgar, Victoria, Australia.
*Ancestry.com expects you to pay for such information! Stephen Lynch's PENINSULA PIONEERS lists their children and birth years as:
William 1879, Hephzibah 1881, Evelyn 1883, Joseph 1886 (died in W.W.1), George 1888, Henry 1891 (served in W.W.1), Stanley 1894 (died in W.W.1), Ann 1896.

THE AULT AND HILLIS MOVE TO GIPPSLAND.
Helen Elizabeth Hopcraft
Born in Boarstall, Buckinghamshire, England on 1852 to William Hopcraft and Mary Holtam. Helen Elizabeth married Henry William Ault and had 8 children. She passed away on 15 Oct 1891 in Arthurs Seat.
Family Members
Parents William Hopcraft 1824-1914 Mary Holtam 1827-1891
Spouse(s) Henry William Ault 1845-1934
Children William Henry Ault 1878-1929, Edwin Ault 1880-1951,
Joseph Albert Ault 1881-1882, Ernest William Ault 1883-1951,
Hephzibah Mary Ault 1885-1962, Herbert John Ault 1886-1965,
Coral Ault 1888-1891,Anne Helen Ault 1891-1964.

The marriage extends the connections between families in the title to Robert Henry Adams, who married Helen's sister and if I remember correctly the Sawyers and through Fred's Sawyer's marriage to a Hopcraft girl, the Prossers and Renoufs and Jonah Griffith of Dromana.
It seems as if Coral and Anne were twins and that the effort of producing two for the price of one led to their mother's death. After her death, Henry's life would have revolved around raising his motherless children. Hephzibah was only six when Helen died, so my guess is that Henry's sister Annie (Mrs William Hillis) played a great part in raising his children, in the same way as Blooming Bob White's second wife had helped raise her deceased sister's children before tying the knot.

The name of William Hillis had disappeared from Shire of Flinders and Kangerong ratebooks between the assessments of 1902 and 1903. He and Annie had moved away.This no doubt prompted Henry Ault's move to Cunningham (Lakes Entrance) in 1904.

FROM MY JOURNAL 'DICTIONARY HISTORY OF RED HILL".
Today, I traced the Ringrose grant year by year and these are my findings.
All entries relate to 60 acres of land in Kangerong. (Melway 190 K1 roughly.)
2-9-1865. 1-9-1866. 1-9-1867. Ringrose (surname only) was assessed on 60 acres, Kangerong, a house being first mentioned in 1867 but probably there all the time.
5-9-1868. The given name, Brian, is recorded for the first time . The house had one room.
4-9-1869. The given name was altered with a stroke (/) to turn i into y. The house is not mentioned.
3-9-1870. There are no assessment numbers but the person to be rated is recorded as Bryan Ringrose.
2-9-1871. No Ass. No. After Bryan Ringrose's name that of William Hillas (sic) is written in inverted commas, probably indicating that William Hillis was leasing the 60 acres. William Hillis was not assessed on any other land.
7-9-1872. No Ringrose. No assessment numbers. William Hillis was assessed on the 60 acres under H. One would assume that he had bought the land but with these rate collectors it is dangerous to assume anything.
6-9-1873. No Ass.No. Under H, William J.Hillis is crossed out and Francis Hirst is written above it. The owner's name, Ringrose, is not forgotten as it was in 1872.
5-9-1874, 2-10-1875, 15-9-1876. Under H, Francis Hirst was assessed each time with the owner being, respectively: Ringrose, Bryan Ringrose and Blank! Had it been sold this time?
14-9-1877. No listing under H (Hirst) or R (Ringrove). Look at every assessment in Centre Riding for 60 acres Kangerong or Ringrose in "Owner" column. Job Sherwood was leasing the 60 acres from B.Ringrose.
27-7-1878. Job Sherwood still leasing from B.Ringrose. N.A.V. was 14 pounds. (I hadn't checked it previously but I did notice it had been 10 pounds earlier on.)
24-7-1879. Nothing under S. Nothing under R. Look through all centre riding assessments. Under D, Charles Daniel was recorded as leasing from B.Ringrose.
31-7-1880, 30-7-1881. Nothing under D. Check whole of centre riding again for 60 ac K or Ringrose in owner column. The property had been forgotten (see ASSESSMENTS entry) and at the very end it was noted, without an assessment number, that what looked like John Gawin was leasing from B.Ringrose. The 1881 entry was clearly John Galvin and he was a labourer but the owner column was blank. Had Galvin bought 18B Kangerong?
29-7-1882, 21-7-1883.(A.N. 276 and 275/150, in shire, in riding.) Occupant column blank but Bryan Ringrose was listed as the owner in both years. The 83-4 rates were paid by Mr Ellis on 26-5-1884. I think we can assume that Ellis meant Hillis.
19-7-1884. (Nothing near previous assessment numbers.) Check whole riding for 60 acres K or Ringrose in owner column. (A.N. 110.) William Kemp, orchardist, was leasing from B.Ringrose.
20-7-1885. Not one Kangerong property of 60 acres was listed. No Ringrose in owner column. This looks like it!
17-7-1886. I wrote nothing so the result must have been the same as for 1885.
16-7-1887. Between Rudduck (157) and Segrave (158) but with no assessment number or occupier name, Ringrose was listed as the owner. The rates were paid by Hillas (sic.)
Blank July, 1888. A.N.28. Ringrose in owner column.
Blank July, 1889. No 60 acres Kangerong assessed. Had it been absorbed into a large landholding or had the rate collector forgotten the property again? Hardly any entries in the owner column and no sign of Ringrose.
Blank July 1990. No 60 acres Kangerong or Ringrose. A retrospective examination re William Hillis made sense of a baffling entry in 1891. In 1890, William Hillis was assessed on 273 acres in Wannaeue and Kangerong; to the left of this description, in tiny numerals, 60 was written above 213 (A.N. 98.) One would assume that this meant 60 acres in Wannaeue and 213 acres in Kangerong but as I said before, with these rate collectors don't assume anything.
William Hillis was granted 23A Wannaeue on 12-11-1888 and 23B Wannaeue on 10-12-1885. The first consisted of 59 acres 3 roods and 34 perches and is roughly indicated by Melway 171 H, part J-6. The second consisted of 153 acres o roods and 36 perches and is indicated by 171 pt.J, and K, 5-6. With 40 perches making a rood and 4 roods making an acre, the total of these two allotments is 213 acres and 30 perches. Therefore the 60 acre block was in Kangerong. Segrave's 60 acres were in Flinders and the only other 60 acre block, apart from Bryan Ringrose's 18B Kangerong, was Henry Dunn's "Four Winds" but this had become 233 acres years earlier.Therefore the land on which William Hillis was assessed in 1890 should read: 60 acres, 18B Kangerong and 213 acres, 23 AB Wannaeue.
Blank July, 1991. William Hillas (sic) was assessed on 60 acres Wannaeue and Kangerong. Perhaps William had mortgaged his grants or they may have been sequestered so he only had Bryan Ringrose's grant but because the rate collector wasn't sure whether the 60 or the 213 acre land was in Wannaeue, he kept the Wannaeue and Kangerong tag.
Blank July 1992. William Hillis could have had 60 acres Kangerong (preceded by an ink blot that looked a bit like a one or 160 acres.
If our Bryan Ringrose was disfigured and not often seen in public, it seems that William Hillis was one of his few friends. The following is being placed here rather than in the HILLIS entry so that it can be seen in context regarding the information from the rate books.

Bruce Bennett states on page 22 of THE BUTCHER THE BAKER THE:
William Hillas (sic) owned land on the corner of Wilsons and Main Creek Rd (i.e. 23 AB Wannaeue) and 27* acres on the top of White Hill including Watermill Farm. He was named as a butcher in the 1884 rates and appears to have been Red Hill's first butcher.
(*Postscript. This sounds exactly like "Glenferrie" and he would have been leasing it from John and Annie Moore. It was later bought by Blooming Bob White who retained the Moores' name for the farm.)

While reading an extract from Joseph McIlroy's diary on page 19 of Sheila Skidmore's THE RED HILL, where Joseph mentioned staying the night at Mr Hillis's place while bringing a steer back from Frankston on 9-3-1881, I was thinking of the Wannaeue land and presumed that for some reason he had travelled via Eaton's Cutting. Now it is pretty clear that he had travelled up White Hill Rd from Moat's Corner and stopped near the McIlroys Rd corner. William Hillis may have been leasing S.P.Calder's much later grant. He could not have been on Bryan's 18B because John Galvin seems to have been there from July 1880 to July 1882.

The 30-9-1899 assessment shows that William Hillis only had two lots in the railway estate, the triangular CROWN ALLOTMENT 13, SECTION 1 KANGERONG bounded by Palmerston Ave., Jetty Rd and Boundary Rd, in Dromana. He wouldn't be leaving much behind when he moved to Trafalgar, which he seems to have already done.

The 1890's saw a depression that caused many farmers to walk off their farms, unable to repay mortgages. Many Peninsula lads moved to Western Australia which was not affected because of its gold rush. William Hillis Jnr, born in 1879, was now 18 and unlikely to get a job as the shire's rate collector, so it must have been his father who applied for the job in 1897. William JAMES Hillis (the second given name obviously discovered from rate records) was rated on 273 acres in Wannaeue and Kangerong in 1889 but only 60 acres Kangerong in 1890, so he had either sold 23AB or lost it due to insolvency.

Flinders and Kangerong shire. Correspondence
From William Hillis, junior, Red Hill, making application for the position of rate collector for the shire. Received.(P.3, Mornington Standard, 30-9-1997.)

The following indicates that William was in the process of moving into Trafalgar and that his second name is wrongly given in the genealogy as Herbert. It would be far more likely to be James, from the name of his mother's brother, James McKeown.

NARRACAN SHIRE. CORRESPONDENCE.
From W. J. Hillis, Trafalgar South,offering to remove logs and repair culvert on road below Miller's for £2.
-Cr. Crisp explained that the work was on Kitchener's block, and Mr. Hillis was anxious to get his furniture into his home. He was a very straightforward man, and had made the Council a very reasonable offer which he (Cr. Crisp) thought should be accepted.-Agreed to.(P.7, West Gippsland Gazette, 15-11-1898.)
Hillis and Ault were undertaking many contracts for Narracan Shire by 1901.

RED HILL REMAINED THE CENTRE OF THE EARTH or to put it another way friendships made there were very dear to both the Hillis and Ault families. How else would a Trafalgar lad have met an Ascot Vale girl or a Surrey Hills lad a Lakes Entrance girl?

HILLIS- WISEMAN.---On the 1st November, at the Presbyterian Church, Dandenong, by the Rev.H. A. Buntine, George P., third son of W. J. Hillis,Trafalgar, to Ethel D., only daughter of the late James Wiseman, Ascot Vale, and sister of T.B Wiseman, Bass.(P.59, Leader, 8-12-1917.)

William Hillis was the son of Hill Hillis who had married James McKeown's sister. Hill and James settled together at Melway 190 G-J 4-6, their farms of 50 and 165 acres eventually being granted to James (73AB Balnarring.) James Wiseman settled across the road on 11AB Kangerong (between Sheehans Rd and Arkwells Lane) in 1863. The end of White Hill Rd south of the Sheehans Rd corner is still referred to as Wiseman's Deviation by longtime Red Hill residents. The friendship that resulted in the above marriage began in the first half of the 1860's.
HOLMES-AULT.
Would you believe that I can't find the marriage notice despite being able to remember almost every word in it. George, son of Mr A.Holmes of Surrey Hills had married a daughter of Edwin Ault of Lakes Entrance.

This would be the bride.
Emma Holmes (Ault)
Birthdate: December 7, 1917
Death: Died February 7, 1995
Immediate Family:
Wife of George Holmes.

Henry Ault had left the Dromana area in 1904, probably having sold all or part of 72B Balnarring to Mr Russ. CHECK! Henry Ault had sold it to Hosking by 1891.
Portion of Simpson entry in my PIONEER PATHWAY, DROMANA journal.
"On 6-4-1891, Fred (Simpson) started work at Blakeley's, part of which 140 acres is now occupied by the Consolidated School. Henry Ault's 140 acre block (Joseph Pitcher's grant, Melway 190 E-F5) was south of Blakeley's and had been bought by George Hoskins whose nephew, George William Russ was working with him.
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Getting back to the marriage notice, it had excited me because of a mystery posed by W.J. Holmes' history of Red Hill. Who was the uncle at Box Hill that taught W.J.Holmes' brother the knowledge needed by an orchardist soon after they arrived at Red Hill in 1900 about four years before Henry Ault's departure?

If A.Holmes of Surrey Hills was perhaps Alfred, a brother of William Alfred Holmes who took his family to Red Hill in 1900, he might have met Henry Ault's family before their departure.However, the acquaintance might have gone back to the Sheehan family's purchase of James McKeown's grants (just east of Henry Ault's 72B Balnarring) circa 1885. N.B. THERE IS NO PROOF THAT A. HOLMES AND HIS SON, GEORGE, WERE RELATED TO THE RED HILL FAMILY. However, how else would George have met his bride?

My failure to find the wedding notice was compensated by finding Edwin Ault's parquetry plaque which combined his father's carpentry skills and love of nature mentioned in the 1934 obituary.
Parquetry - Plaque, Edwin Ault, 1900-1950 - Museum Victoria
museumvictoria.com.au/.../items/.../parquetry-plaque-edwin-ault-1900-195...
Summary
Rectangular plaque with top right corner splayed probably made of Kauri Pine (agathis robusta) (pinaceae) inlay includes Native Cherry (exocarpus cupressiformis) (santalaceae) for base and Blackwood (acacia melanoxylon) (leguminosae) plus Coast Banksia (banksia integrifolia) (proteaceae) for flowers. Made by Edwin Ault within the period 1900-1950.
Edwin Ault was raised in Dromana, Victoria and was a first generation immigrant from Staffordshire, UK. Edwin worked as a motor mechanic and also spent a period fixing jetties.
Edwin's love for wood work was shared by his family. His father, H.W Ault, possessed a strong interest in wood and plants, and Edwin's brother, Ernest Ault, was a builder, joiner and woodworker. Edwin was keen to share his passion for his craft and would often show family members and friends how to do woodwork. It has been suggested by family members that Edwin's wife made some of the woodwork objects in their home, including for instance, some bread boards.
In 1912, at age 32, Edwin met and married his wife (Emma Hermine Ault nee Wilhelm). They lived in Lakes Entrance (initially known as Cunningham), where they raised their children. Recurrent motifs in Edwin's work including, for instance, the greenhood orchid, reflect the indigenous and introduced flora which grew in the locality of his property in Lakes Entrance. Edwin's work, whilst highly decorative in its detailed representation of plants, was also designed to serve functional purposes. Egg cups, carving boards and book ends were used by his family on an every-day basis, and are still remembered fondly by Edwin's grandchildren.
In his work, Edwin favoured a free form approach. He respected the original form of the wood and would shape it according to its natural pattern and form. It is believed that some of his pieces, including for instance, one of his picture frames, is made of drift wood. Edwin would air-dry his wood, or sometimes season it by placing it in crayfish pots, and steeping it in river and sea water. It is significant that Edwin's work utilises functional elements such as bolts and screws, reflecting his background in engineering. Edwin's work, with its intricate depictions of indigenous Australian and introduced plants, and its highly functional elements drawn from engineering practice, can provide valuable insight into the Australian arts and crafts movement and the lifestyle of Victorian families of the time.
Physical Description
Finished with a wax (possibly beeswax).
More Information
Collecting AreasSustainable Futures
Acquisition InformationDonation from Ms Helen Hallett, 12/1980
MakerEdwin Ault, Victoria, Australia, 1900-1950
ClassificationEconomic botany, Timber products
CategoryHistory & Technology
DisciplineTechnology
Type of itemObject
Overall Dimensions 250 mm (Length), 210 mm (Width), 15 mm (Height)
KeywordsAustralian Timbers, Legume or Pea Family (Leguminosae or Fabaceae), Legumes & Pulses, Parquetry, Pine Family (Pinaceae), Protea Family (Proteaceae), Sandalwood Family (Santalaceae), Woodworking

Could you please put the link for the Wannaeue map in comment 1 janilye?

The Rosebud Fishing Village is not discussed here as it is the subject of another journal. Only surnames of those pioneers whose descendants may not be aware of the Wannaeue connection will be included in the surnames list.

It seems a hopeless task to find the meaning of Wannaeue. I have a faint recollection of seeing a definition during the campaign to rename Dromana West. Can I find it?

CONFUSION OF NAMES
Sir,-Your correspondent "The Iron is Hot," in writing of the confusion of place- names at Dromana, has voiced the opinion of most of the residents of Dromana West. Some years ago, when the "loose mailbag" was supplanted by the post-office, a petition signed by the residents of that small settlement on the slope of Arthur's Seat, requesting that the township be named Wannaue, was not granted. This name (pronounced Wan-ar-u-e) is the original and aboriginal name of the district, the interpretation being "reedy waters."

Until that time Dromana West was included in the township of Rosebud, the
original Wannaue, the township having gradually become known as Rosebud
owing to a ship of that name having been wrecked close to the Wannaeue beach. This small township is growing rapidly, and is on the most beautiful part
of Port Phillip Bay. It is the urgent wish of its residents that a name be chosen
in' keeping with the beauty of the surroundings.-Yours, &c,
Dromana West. ISOBEL M. GREEN*. (P.10, Argus, 21-2-1939.)
*The Greens lived at "Springbank", about opposite the lighthouse according to the Early Rosebud map. It was destroyed by fire one Friday night.

I think the above definition can be believed, because of the Wannaeue/ Boneo/ Tootgarook swamp which occupied a large part of the parish but also the many creeks that entered the bay: Coburn's near Coburn Rd, Adams' near The Avenue, Eeling which flow through Tom Salt Park, Peatey's near Murray Anderson Rd and probably others before Chinaman's Creek, such as the unnamed channel near Seventh Avenue in which Lou Bucher drowned.

A post office directory or gazeteer for Rye from about 1879 mentions population and the Swamp Village about six miles to the east which probably meant the Rosebud Fishing Village. (This may have been in Patricia Appleford's Rye Primary School 1667.)

Chinaman's Creek had an ill-defined course, originally emptying into the bay near the Rosebud Hospital site but even with the channel dug by Ned Williams there are still plenty of REEDS to be seen today.

The parish boundaries are: N. Port Phillip Bay to Burrell Rd (indicated by the N-S portion of Latrobe Pde, where it adjoined the township of Dromana), that line south to Pindara Rd and Arthurs Seat Rd (where it adjoined Kangerong to the north) ; E. Mornington-Flinders Rd, where it adjoined Balnarring;
S. Shands Rd (where it adjoined Flinders) west to Main Creek, the creek to the right side of Melway 254 E7 and following the Main Ridge/ Boneo boundary into Wallermerriyong Rd to Limestone Rd and (now adjoining Fingal) west to the line of Weerona St/ Government Rd, Rye, where both Wannaeue and Fingal adjoined Nepean.

OH BRUCE!
Strathmore History - Wannaeue House
strathmore3041.org/wannaeve.html
Wannaeue
Now demolished. This house was located at the corner of Peck Avenue and Pascoe Vale Road, where the Red Rooster Fast Food Restaurant now stands. The house was built in the 1870's by John Peck one of the co founders of Cobb and Co. who also later built the house "Lebanon"* further up the hill in Strathmore.
"Wannaeue" was a Maori word meaning "By a Creek".
(*Lebanon was built in 1882. Until it was built, Peck lived at "Mascoma" in Ascot Vale.)

Bruce Barbour was one of my early history pals. The result of his request for information can be found by googling RAY GIBB, STRATHMORE. The house in Bruce's article was originally described by the great Sam Merrifield as Wanganui (Maori for big water) and it was this word that led to Bruce's mistake. He would have never found a definition for Wannaeue on the internet. The house he discusses was on John Peck's Lebanon Estate and may have been built as a wedding present for his daughter who married William Allison Blair Jnr. about a year before the below birth notice was inserted. Red Rooster at the east end of the Peck Avenue footbridge in Melway 16 J9 is on the site of Wannaeue, known to Pascoe Vale kids of the 1930's as Cook Cottage because it was bought by Albert Cook, the longtime Broadmeadows Shire Secretary. The house was illegally demolished.

BLAIR.- On the 28th January, at Wannaeue, Pascoe Vale, the, wife of W. A. Blair, jun., of a son. (P.45, Leader, 9-2-1889.)

RUNS AND PRE-EMPTIVE RIGHTS.
To give squatters the security to develop their runs, as long as they paid their lease fees to the crown until the parish was surveyed, their pre-emptive right, usually of 640 acres or a square mile could not be bought by anyone else as long as the payment of fees continued.

Edward Hobson moved from the Kangerong Run to Tootgarook in 1838 but he called the run Packomedurrawurra according to one of the Meyricks. By about 1843, he was off to Tarwin River and then the RIVER OF LITTLE FISH*, his brother Edmund's run, whose name today is Traralgon, a corruption of the aboriginal words for river of little fish coined by Edward. His (sort of) stepfather, George Smith, took over the run, calling the run TOOTGAROOK and his HOMESTEAD Wooloowoollboolook (George McCrae's spelling.) While there, the so-called Mrs Smith (mother of the Hobsons) restored to health the near dead four year old Sarah Ann Cain (later Mrs James Rogers of Balnarring) who'd been lost in the bush. Also, because the Tootgarook run seems to have been between the Bay and the road to Cape Schanck (the freeway and Old Cape Schanck Rd) right to Anthonys Nose, generous George transferred some of it gratis to the Arthurs Seat run so that Andrew Murchison McCrae could access the beach legally.

(SOURCES: (Both available on the internet.)
1. I Succeeded Once, quoted in one of my journals:
AS MARIE HANSEN FELS POINTS OUT IN "I SUCCEEDED ONCE", GEORGE SMITH'S WOOLOOWOOLOOBOOLOOK (NO MATTER WHAT SPELLING WAS USED) WAS THE NAME OF HIS HOMESTEAD AT CAPEL SOUND ON THE TOOTGAROOK RUN.
2. The River of Little Fish, a history of Traralgon for children.

MORE ABOUT GEORGE SMITH.
I stated before that George Smith may have been on Tootgarook. On page 4 of The Argus of 21-5-1850,a government notice lists occupants and other details of runs for which the occupants were to submit applications for 12 month leases from 1-1-1851. In the County of Mornington,No. 17 of 19 was George Smith (occupant), 20 square miles (extent), Tootgarook (name of run), Port Phillip Bay (location).

"Contrary to what is widely asserted, he did not hold a licence for Wul-Wul-a-Bulluk on the Mornington Peninsula: a thorough search of the original Pastoral Run Papers produced no papers for Wul-Wul-a-Bulluk in the box which holds all the original W Pastoral Run Papers.50 Wul-Wul-a-Bulluk is not a pastoral run; it is the name of the house at Capel Sound where he lived in the 1840s.51"
(I SUCCEEDED ONCE.)

2. "The River of Little Fish"
www.traralgonhistory.asn.au/rolf.htm)

James Purves took over the run in 1850 and the P.R.was managed for 27 years by his brother Peter (d. 1860) and then Peter's son, James. Land alienated from this run was described as being in SECTION A.

The most northerly part of the parish was the Arthurs Seat P.R. Andrew McCrae leased the run from about 1843 but after he and Henry Tuck had constructed a house fit for the artistic Georgiana McCrae and a tenure of another five or so years, fear of their home being swallowed by the proposed (Dromana) supposedly caused them to quit the run. To my mind, the reason may have instead been financial difficulties. The run was so thickly wooded that it was fit only for cattle and the difficulty of getting them to market was dwarfed only by the problem of FINDING them. That's probably how Andrew found signs of the yellow stuff at Bald Hill (Red Hill.) His other difficulty was the refusal of his brother Dr Farquhar McCrae to repay a loan, the very reason Andrew had taken up the run in the first place because he could no longer afford to live in Melbourne. The dishonorable Doc displeased others too. He dudded Alphabetical Foster in the transfer of the Eumemmering run near Dandenong and fear of Foster's retribution provoked a flight to Sydney; streets in Dandenong are named after the dudder and duddee. Andrew had no trouble finding government employment as soon as he quit the run.

The Run, in 1851, and later, the P.R.became Burrell property. Visit the McCrae homestead to get the full story of both families. Alienated land from the Arthurs Seat Run was described as being in SECTION B.

Maurice Meyrick took up the Boniyong run but he took off for Gippsland after fighting a duel with Dr Barker of the Cape Schanck Run. The doctor took over the run with his brother Edward and the family retained the P.R. straddling the (Old) Cape Schanck road between Browns and Limestone Rds until about 1900.
Land alienated from this run SHOULD HAVE BEEN described as being in SECTION C; the portion in the parish of Fingal was!

ROADS AND LENGTHS.
The surveyor's tools were the compass and the chain. The government roads they reserved were magnetic N-S and W-E so Melway maps which use true north show these roads rotated slightly to the right (about 1 to 7 and 10 to 4 o'clock.) This makes it difficult to give exact Melway references for properties.

If a track already existed, it was reserved as a government road and used for crown allotment boundaries - such as the one starting at Ponderosa Place in Dromana, accessed from the bottom of Foote St at Dromana to avoid waiting for low tide to round Anthonys Nose on the beach, and via Wattle Rd near the Rosebud, which ran south west past Jetty Rd to Browns Rd before dog legging left to link with Boneo Rd at Melway 253 C10 in Fingal. This track, from what was named as Palmerston Avenue in Dromana to Austin Avenue (the north west corner of Back Road Bob Cairns' "Fernvilla" in Rosebud) is now the freeway.

The chain* was 20 metres long, each of the 100 links 20 centimetres long. The exact equivalent for a chain is 20.1168 metres but I use 20 metres when I give boundaries and distances unless I want to be exact.As space was limited on the parish maps lengths were given in links. In townships, lots usually had a one chain frontage, written as 100 (links) but corner blocks were 200 x 200.
The distance between the Elizabeth Avenue and Truemans Rd corners was/ is 3613 links which is 36 X 20 + 13 hundredths of 20, 720+ 2.6 = 722.6 metres, or to be exact and using the 20.1168 conversion, 726.819984 metres.

(*Victoria's most famed surveyor, Robert Hoddle, married into the Baxter family as did the Sages and both purchased land adjoining the P.R.when the Carrup Carrup run at Baxter was alienated. There is an article about two elderly Sage descendants whose most prized possession was Uncle Robert's surveying chain.)

For the racing fans.
In the old days landlords would allow their tenant farmers or cottiers a strip of land a chain wide and ten chains long. The name for this area probably originated from the Crusades*. Thus the length of this paddock (220 yards or 200 metres) became known as a furrow long, later corrupted to FURLONG.
Siege of Acre (1291) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Acre_(1291)

CAPE VERDE ISLANDERS WILLIAMS AT SORRENTO &SQUID GLENLEE&BUSH PADDOCK LOVIES DITCH & ALEX CRICHTON & 40 ACRES OF EASTBOURNE, .ROWLEY AT DROMANA BLAIR (DUFFY WANNAEUE AT STRATHMORE AND BRUCE'S BOO BOO) etc, etc.

GOVERNMENT ROADS IN WANNAEUE. (DO NOT DELETE!!!!!!!!!!!)
It would be wise to print the map and label the roads to avoid having to refer to this when significant occupants are discussed.

Three roads have not been included below, Old Cape Schanck Rd would have been created by Jamieson, early squatter on the Cape Schanck run, and the ruts created by his dray would have been followed by later squatters. By 1906 it was being referred to as Hobsons Flat road by the shire while most called it the back road, hence Robert Cairns' nickname. Its course has been described above and due to its name, and the freeway course to Austin Avenue, it should be fairly easy to identify. The second is Wattle Rd which was probably a track created by wattle bark strippers; the bark was used to produce tannin to tan leather. The third is The Avenue, which I have been told was the course of Adams' Creek. The Creek itself would have been used as a boundary between the Arthurs Seat pre-emptive right and crown allotment 20 Wannaeue, the Wannaeue Village Reserve. It is likely that Back Road Bob Cairns and his son Godfrey were using the track now called the Avenue in 1905 when Robert Henry Adams threatened to repel their trespass with a shovel. The Avenue linked at the freeway course with Cairn (sic) Rd, the driveway to Back Rod Bob CairnS' Fernvilla homestead.
ASSAULT AND THREATENING LANGUAGE.
Mornington Standard (Vic. : 1889 - 1908) Saturday 5 August 1905 p 5 Article
... .M., and Mr Rudduck; J.P., Godfrey Brown Cairns, Rosebud, charged Robert H. Adams, Rosebud, with assault on ... ASSAULT AND THREATENING LANGUAGE. At the Dromana Police Court on Tuesday

N-S ROADS FROM WEST TO EAST.
1. Government Rd/ Weeroona St. 2. Springs Lane 3. Truemans Rd. (Elizabeth Ave, west boundary of Crispo's grants, was not reserved.) 4. Boneo Rd. 5. Jetty/ Grassland Rd. 6. Parkmore Rd near foreshore between crown allotments 19 and 20 (Wannaeue Village reserve.) 5. No portion of the road heading south from Browns Rd just west of Jetty Rd now exists. 7. Rosebud Pde on the west boundary of the southern part of the golf course.8.Troon Rd on the west boundary of the northern part of the golf course. 9. Gardens/ Hislop/ Wallermerriyong Rd. (Melway 171 B7 to 254 C6.)
10. Purves Rd branching into Greens (s/w) and Baldrys (s/e) Rds.Main Creek Rd. 11. Main Creek Rd veering west as Old Main Creek Rd and McPherson Lane (254 F-J1.) 12. Barkers Rd heading south from Main Creek Rd to Main Creek (254 H1.) 13. Mornington-Flinders Rd south from Higgens Corner.

W-E ROADS FROM SOUTH TO NORTH.
1. Limestone Rd. The boundary between the parishes of Wannaeue and Fingal. The reason for the name was due to limestone deposits at its western end.
The Tootgarook and Boniyong runs actually straddled the boundary and architect James Purves' sections 1-3, section A Fingal (306 acres) and John Barker's 6 of A and 2 of C were probably pre-emptive rights. Much later residents on Limestone Rd were the Wong Shings.

Development of new estates after W.W.2 encroached on the Wong Market garden near Chinaman's Creek. Nellie Wong married Freddy King and they had a dairy farm in Limestone Rd about half a mile west of the Boneo School. Their son Barry walked behind a horse and was kicked in the head; despite two operations,he died. Dennis Wong married Grace Armstrong and they lived in Limestone Rd near Freddy and Nellie, but recently moved to Wangaratta. Terry Wong married Minnie and George married Hazel. (Joy Booth, nee Cairns.)

2. Browns Rd. The name of this road honours shire councillor, James Little Brown, who in the second decade of the 1900's, transformed rabbit and ti-tree infested hinterland south of Rye into the beautiful pasture we see today.

3.Kinwendy Rd (Melway 170 J-K 11).
4. Hiscock Rd. This was planned to run west from the junction of the road to Cape Schanck and the mountain road (Jetty Rd) to Truemans Rd. Most of the road was never made because of the swamp west of Boneo Rd and it is likely that, despite the council's opposition, the portion now within the Rosebud Country Club property was sold to William Raper (owner of the Wannaeue Estate between Eastbourne Rd and Hiscock Rd, from Jetty Rd to Browns Rd, c/a's 11-8. John Cain at the time had c/a 4, 5 and 6.
(Lands Department, enquiring if council had any objections to the alienation of road between Messrs John Cain and W.Raper, Wannaeue.-T'o be informed that this council.objects to alienation of same.(P.3, Mornington Standard, 2-8-1913.)

5. Waterfall Gully Rd between Jetty and Purves Rds. The waterfall is at Melway 171 D5.
6. Duells Rd, between Jetty Rd and Gardens Rd,on land owned by the Duell family before land to the south became Carribean Gardens caravan and fun park property, now partly the Peninsula Sands Estate.
7. Wilson Rd, 171 G6, between Purves and Main Creek Rds, named after the family including Jim Wilson and Bobby whose head was split open by an axe in 1902 in a quest for honey, but survived.
(P.3, Mornington Standard, 19-4-1902.)
8. Whites Rd between Purves and Main Creek Rds.This is named after the family of Bullocky Bob White who was granted c/a 27A under his former name of Robert James.
9.Eastbourne/Hove Rd, called Ford's Lane in 1902, when Chris Cairns applied to fence off the road till he fenced his selection which was later granted to teacher,J.A.Bayford, because Cr William Ford had previously lived on the Wannaeue Station. (See Hiscock Rd.) It was later called Roper's Lane, the locals obviously too embarrassed to pronounce the name properly.

PROMINENT OCCUPANTS (WEST TO EAST.)
JAMES PURVES.
According to Marie Hansen Fels in I SUCCEEDED ONCE, Tootgarook was well established as a horse stud before James Purves took over the squatting lease a matter of years before the lease was cancelled. It is unlikely that the first occupant Edward Hobson (1838-1843) or George Smith (1843-1850) had any intention of living out their days there so the homestead would have been barely adequate. Smith's name for the homestead was Wooloowoolooboolook, mistakenly taken to be the name of his run. James Purves would have taken over the run on 1-1-1851 and being an architect and very well off, he'd build a grand mansion as the Manifolds and other successful squatters did, wouldn't he? Here's a description from 1877.

On the following day a much larger and more important sale was conducted on the station of J. Purves, Esq., between Dromana and the pretty little village of Rye, and known as Tootgarook; why or how this remarkable title originated we could not ascertain, further than that its origin is native, and, as we believe a clever native lawyer*, and a member of the present Parliament of Victoria was born in the locality, we shall not enquire further. At Tootgarook, which, at this late date in the history of Victoria, is not famous for a very imposing homestead-or indeed in any building that does not require demolishing and rebuilding.......
RECENT AUCTION SALES.
South Bourke and Mornington Journal (Richmond, Vic. : 1872 - 1920) Wednesday 3 October 1877 p 3 Article
*His son James Liddle Purves was NOT born at Tootgarook!

The station had been run from the first by the architect's brother Peter until his death in 1860 and then by Peter's son James who called the homestead Broomielaw. James Purves, who was described in his obituary as a civil engineer rather than an architect, spent most of his time in Melbourne. He was an absentee landowner who built his mansion Glen Isla, in Richmond; its name is recalled by a Mount Martha street.

DEATHS.
PURVES.-On the 12th June, at Richmond, Victoria, James Purves, aged 65.
(P.2, Launceston Examiner, 17-6-1878.)

It was Peter Purves who applied for a licence for the Tootgarook Inn (Leonard St Rye, recently demolished) in 1857 and with James Ford organised the 1859 petition against the fencing of the police paddock (See GEORGE WHITE entry.)

The clearing sale of 1877 was due to Tootgarook Station being leased, so its true pioneers were being turfed off. They were back there by about 1888 when Greenhills on Purves Rd was being established, and two girls who'd stayed home were traumatised when six aborigines came calling for a drink of water.
(Memoirs of A Larrikin.)

The obituaries for James Purves in 1878 give a true picture of his involvement at Tootgarook and elsewhere. His most enduring legacy in the area is the name of Rosebud; he owned the vessel when it was stranded and had it insured with 12 brokers for 700 pounds.

PATRICK SULLIVAN.
There is extensive detail about the Sullivans in Land Lime and Leisure. They were forced off their lime station when it was taken over with great haste for a quarantine station in 1852. Before they moved from Melbourne about a decade earlier, they were possibly the growers of a giant cucumber which was the sensation of the young settlement for a time and Honora may have escaped by a day or two being imprisoned for an offence against the Masters and Servants Act, this having been amended so that female offenders would no longer be sent to the female prison, which had become a virtual brothel. Dennis and Honora were quite elderly by the time they settled near the Heads, so it was Patrick who led the move west.

He established the heritage-listed Kiln on the site of The Dunes and in 1876 he built the Gracefield Hotel on the grant of his father-in-law, William Grace, a Dromana pioneer of 1857. When Patrick died, his son James took over the hotel and concentrated on supplying firewood for Melbourne's bakers, leaving the kiln under the management of Antonio Albress. James Ford who named Portsea and married one of Patrick's sisters, may have been able to supply the quarantine station with vegetables because of his wife's family's assumed expertise. Vicky Sullivan recently led a push to keep the area's heritage accessible to the public.

WILLIAM ALLISON BLAIR.
(From my great history buddy, Bob Chalmers of Essendon Historical Society.)
William Allison Blair was born in Mearns, Renfrewshire, Scotland, to William Blair and Margaret Allison on 9-9-1821. He married Isabella Ewart (born Durham, England in 1827) in Gorbals (Glasgow) on 6-1-1850. The couple arrived in Australia on the Catherine Glen"in August 1853 together with a James Blair (presumably a 20 year old brother of William Allison. William Allison Blair was shown in the 1841 census as a tailor and in the 1851 census as a hat and cap manufacturer, a trade he took up after arriving in Australia. William Allison Blair and Isabella Ewart had a large family, with 8 children born to them, firstly at Emerald Hill, Fitzroy and Collingwood, but later at Essendon, where Margaret was born in 1859. Three children died in infancy or early childhood. One of his daughters married James Boyd (who served on the Essendon council) and Blair and Boyd were both involved with the mining of lime. Isabella Blair died at Netherlea* (Buckley St, Essendon) in 1894 and William Allison Blair died 27-9-1896 in Maidstone**. There is more about William Allison Blair in "Fine Homes of Essendon and District".
(C.N.Holinshed confused this with John Davies' Ngarveno, just south of the Moonee Valley racecourse.** His farm was on the site of the Medway Golf course.)

Blair's grants between Elizabeth Avenue and Truemans Rd were bought for the lime which was plentiful west of Boneo Rd, especially near the swamp where it was closer to the surface. He also bought much land in the parish of Nepean, south of Rye Township and farther west (often dispossessing other limeburners of their kilns) where his disputes with Charles Gavan Duffy indirectly caused the proclamation of the Village of Sorrento. He also bought 600 acres near the east end of the parish as a speculation in 1875. Affected by the 1890's depression his estate was placed in litigation and his land near Tootgarook was bought by the Tootgarook Land Company whose agent was Hiscock, after whom Hiscock Rd was named. The Woinarskis, of noble birth bought the land and called it Woyna, building the heritage listed homestead at 9-11 Terry St. Blair's untouched lime was quarried in the 1920's to make fertiliser which was carried to the manufacturing plant on the site of the motel by a tram which ran along the east side of Truemans Rd..

NATHAN PAGE.
Nathan Page was significant because he represents the many who quarried, carted and burnt lime, such as John Buckley, a Balnarring pioneer. There was no family notice when he was overwhelmed by depression, just a par by the Sorrento Correspondent.

SORRENTO.
(From Our Own Correspondent.)
Nathan Page, over 70 years of age, committed suicide about 3 miles from
Sorrento on Saturday. He was living in a hut belonging to Mr. John Cain,
at his lime kiln, where for 2 or 3 years he had been cook for the men. He left
Mr. Cain's employ at the beginning of the year, and intended to quarry limestone, but had not started. As he was not seen about on Saturday morning,
a butcher named George Ogleby went over to his hut about 2 o'clock to inquire.
On pushing the door open, he saw Page lying in bed covered with blood, and
with a revolver in his left hand. He had discharged the weapon into his mouth, the bullet going through his head, striking the ceiling and rebounding as it was found lying on his breast. A son of Olgeby was talking to Page about 9 o'clock in the morning. He was then in bed smoking a pipe. The body has been conveyed to Sorrento, where it awaits an enquiry He was a very old resident of the district, and leaves a widow and grown up family living in Melbourne.
(P.3, Mornington Standard, 23-2-1899.)

GEORGE WHITE.
Although there is some good information about this Irish family, associated with Sorrento and Rye (but not Rosebud or Red Hill), the biography at the end of Land Lime and Leisure suddenly became the biography of the family of Edward Williams of Eastbourne (after the mention of George's purchase. of Edward Williams' old butcher shop on the corner of GEORGE St).
Perhaps Rose Violet​ could supply some details in comments which I will copy to here. The following comes from my journal written in 2012.

LIME LAND LEISURE.
Page 54. The produce of the White brothers' kiln (and others) may have gone up Canterbury Road.
Page 56. On the west end of a lime kilns map, No 13 is labelled B.Willard, later G.White and G.Sutton. It is located near the intersection of Mission St and Haven Ave (Melway 157 D12.)
Page 57. Rye area of the map. 2 and 2a are labelled White brothers. The first is on the east side of Canterbury St about a fifth of the way from Melbourne Rd to the beach, probably near the bend in Anelida St. The second was probably near the west side of the R.J.Rowley reserve and the reason that W.A.Blair purchased that area.
Page 60. An oldtimer's map of the township shows land owned at the east corner of Pt Nepean Rd and Dundas St labelled G.White. Details of this purchase from the Rye Township map will be given later.
Page 65. George and Robert White were limeburners.
Page 70. No reference; indexing error.
Page 157-8. (The last paragraph of 157 and page 158, apart from the reference to George White buying Edward Williams' old butcher shop, is entirely about Edward Williams.)
Billis and Kenyon name George and Robert White as pastoral pioneers in 1843-1850 and 1843 respectively. There may have been four White brothers, one of them Richard White. Captain Ferguson referred to George and Robert White in his report on the resumption of land near the heads for a quarantine station (in 1852.) Robert had paid a (lime) licence fee of twelve pounds in that year.
Richard White, limeburner, married Eliza Taylor. They had two sons who left the district and six daughters including Georgiana, born 1861, who married Mr Meaden, father of Mrs Creswell who supplied this information.
(Richard has been found in early rate records but either died or also left the district soon after. The genealogy, to come, will determine which is correct.)
Richard's children were scared by Maoris so it is possible that Richard was living/working near the Rowley Reserve where a White brothers' kiln is shown as 2a on the page 57 map. As well as fishing the Maoris had a farm near the oval, which is recalled by Maori St.
Edward (i.e.Williams) sold his partly demolished butcher shop on the north corner of Hotham Rd and George St, an area known as Butchers' Hill, to George White.

RYE PRIMARY SCHOOL, Patricia Appleford.
Page 50-51. Arthur Dark, born 11-4-1924, worked for E.G.White of Sorrento who operated a daily service to Melbourne before the start of world war 2. As Arthur referred to himself as a "jockey" I presume the "service" involved carriage of goods. Arthur's workmates, in that job, were Len Hill, Percy Watson, Parley Blackwell, Alby Morgan and Jack White .
Page 139. Map showing White brothers' kilns 2 and 2a as in LIME LAND LEISURE.

ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD. Peter Wilson.
I recalled a chapter in Peter's book relating details of a Government plan in 1859 to build a fence from White Cliff to the back beach in order to enclose the police paddock between Rye and the Quarantine Station, and a petition opposing this plan. My notes on this chapter were not extensive but a trip to the library was very worthwhile.
As directories of the Rye/Heads area were non-existent at this time, I will record all of the signatories. As a report, mentioned later, states that there were only two landowners, [Peter Purves and James Ford), it can be assumed that all of the signatories (with the exception of Kenna and one other, whom I did not note,who were Melbourne residents) were limeburners, as stated in the report.

THE 1859 PETITION.
At this time, there was no township of Rye, and according to LIME LAND LEISURE, the Rye Hotel was in Dromana! When the Township was declared in 1861, it was called Tootgarook, probably because it had been part of the Tootgarook run. John Campbell apparently had built a jetty in 1860 and this probably prompted lime burners to erect houses near the pier so they would be close to home when they brought the day's production for shipping. One house, occupied by John Berry, and later by the Sullivans when they moved from the Heads in 1852, is said to have been the first house in the township area. In 1869, almost all of the suburban blocks south of the cemeteryand west of Dundas St were bought by limeburners ( more truly lime merchants such as W.A Blair. It has not been definitely established whether Thomas Monahan was connected with the lime industry or just a land speculator.)
James Purves bought his square mile pre-emptive right between about Keith St and Government/Weeroona Rds on 22-10-1855. Ford's land was mainly near Portsea. The Wannbaeue parish map does not indicate when the Fords acquired Wannaeue Station bounded by Eastbourne Rd, Boneo Rd, Browns Rd and Jetty, Old Cape Schank Rd. O'Shannassy reported that Purves and Ford were the only landowners.

Many of the limeburners would have been illiterate. Their names would have been printed (by Peter Purves or James Sandle Ford) and followed by "their mark", usually a cross (X). The names on the petition opposing construction of the fence were: James Ford, Peter Purves, Robert Rainey, James Patterson, George Mitchell, Robert Quinan, George White, Robert White, Richard White, Jeremiah White , James Swan,
Arthur Robinson MATCD (presumably the other Melbourne resident), Alfred Evans, Nathan Page, John Dillon, Edward Russell, Patrick Sullivan, Edward M.Williams, Richard White, George White!, Isaac Prout, Owen Cain, Mrs John Devine, Ben Stennigan (Stenniken), Timothy Sullivan, Thomas Clancy, George Baker, Charles Dean, Mrs Edward Skelton, Samuel Clark, Samuel Williams, Richard Kenna (Melbourne resident!)

Snr Constable O'Shannassy was asked to ascertain why the settlers and limeburners had signed the petition. He found that Clark, Williams, Nathan Page, Mrs Skelton and Jeremiah White had not signed and weren't even asked to sign. George White senior and Robert Quinan, both limeburners, had signed, not wanting to offend their old neighbours,even though they actually wanted the fence. Thomas White and 15 other limeburners wanted the fence to prevent Ford and Purves overgrazing the area with their combined 800 head of cattle. They complained that their own bullocks (obviously used for ploughing and hauling lime)were dying from starvation.
Robert, George and Richard White, Ford, Purves, Cain, Stennigan (sic), and Patrick and Timothy Sullivan feared that their cattle would be turned out of the area.

Comment by Rose Violet.
I can tell you that Richard White ( son of Limeburner George White Snr ) died in 1881 at Eastern Hill. Jeremiah White ( another son ) died at Flinders in 1881 & is buried in the same grave as his sister Jane & husband Charles Graves at Flinders Cemetery. Robert ( my 3x G Grandfather) died in Fitzroy in 1882. He was a lime salesman when he died. George White Jnr dies at Pt Nepean in 1895. Sadly George White Snr ( my 4x g grandfather ) went bankrupt & died in the Melbourne Benovelant Society in 1865 ... Far away from the Peninsula he loved so much.

Near Truemans Rd.
S. STENNIKEN.
I believe this should be Benjamin Stenniken whose wife Mary Anne was the older sister of Samuel Sherlock. Ben whose name was variously recorded on the Nepean parish map as Ben Stenigain and B.Stenniker bought c/a 6 and 5 Nepean in 1860 and 1864; this land ran west from Dundas St roughly to Pasadena Rd.

Ben supplied the limestone to build the hall/school on the Church of England grant in Lyon St. It became unsafe for use as a school, so after a time in rented premises in John Campbell's hotel, the pupils moved into a school built on the present site. The old building was then rebuilt as a church reusing Ben's limestone with the addition of limestone supplied by James Trueman, Ben's neighbour on Truemans Rd. (Read the fantastic information boards outside the church and school. N.B. John Campbell built the first Rye Pier in 1867, not 1860.) It is unknown whether Ben Stenniken's limestone came from his Truemans Rd or Melbourne Rd land but as Trueman's grant had lime deposits it could have been either or both.

Ben's daughter, Maria, married Godffrey Burdett Wilson, son of Henry William Wilson and Thamer (nee Burdett) which explains the naming of Burdett St on c/a 48 Wannaeue. The Stenniken family also had marital connections in Fingal (Patterson,Kennedy, Harry Prince) and Rosebud (Clemenger of Parkmore) and gravitated to Dromana and Port Melbourne but Ben Stenniken, with James Sullivan, was at the forefront of establishing the supply of ti tree logs for the ovens of Melbourne's bakers.

JAMES TRUEMAN.
James Trueman, grantee of crown 47 on the west side of.....you guessed it, Truemans Rd, was born in Chute, Wiltshire on 18-6-1822. In 1841 he was described as an agricultural labourer and in 1851, he was a resident of Maddington, Wiltshire. James married Jane Cook (born in July 1827) on 6-6-1850 in Collingbourne Ducis, Wiltshire and they emigrated from Southhampton aboard "Sabrina" on 24-1-1857, arriving at Hobsons Bay on 13-4-1857.

(It has been claimed that James Trueman built and operated the tap room on Tootgarook Station. He may have run the Tootgarook Hotel for Peter Purves (pronounced Purvis) but if he built it, he was pretty blooming quick.

*Peter Purvis**, Tootgarook, Tootgarook Hotel.Granted.(P.5, Argus, 22-4-1857.) **Peter Purves d. 1860. )

See: THE TRUEMANS OF TOOTGAROOK, VIC., AUST.
http://www.familytreecircles.com/journal_63730.html

ROBERT ROWLEY.
Robert's genealogical details and early life is described in Land Lime and Leisure but there is a glaring lack of detail about his wife, Christina Edwards.She was from Longford in Tasmania.

Robert's father was in the Militia in Sydney but was transferred to Van Dieman's Land, eventually securing a grant. While fishing under the influence, his father fell out of a boat and drowned. Robert's mother married Richard Kenyon and they went to the Heads to burn lime, probably for John Pascoe Fawkner whom they knew from the apple isle.

Robert didn't go with them, and was working as a policeman on the "southern isle" if my memory serves me correctly. He visited his mother in 1839 and a year or so later he contacted Henry Cadby Wells, best known as a Frankston pioneer, who on his arrival,went to the Sorrento area, to join him in a lime burning venture, Wells' pregnant wife giving birth to the area's first white child soon after.

The venture was affected by the 1843 depression so Robert probably returned to Tasmania and Wells resumed his bootmaking trade. In 1849, the two mates tried crayfishing in Wells' boat with great success and Wells built Clark's Cottage at Sorrento according to THE WELLS STORY (a belief shared by Jennifer Nixon despite claims that George Baker built it.) Unfortunately the boat came down on its anchor in Westernport and was holed. Robert probably returned to Tassie again and married Christine there (late 1859 if I remember correctly ; I can't re-find the marriage notice on trove.)
N.B. I DID FIND IT, IN ONE OF MY JOURNALS.
ROWLEY-EDWARDS - By the Rev. J Smithies, at the house of Mr Joseph Tongs*, Illawarra**, Christina Edwards, the only daughter of Mr William Edwards, of Newborough, Fife, Scotland, to Mr Robert Rowley, of Dromana, Victoria.
(P.5,Launceston Examiner,22-1-1861.)
* The Tongs family appears to have been associated with Longford, in whose police court John Tongs, known to own 100 acres on the Cressy Estate by 1865, was fined five shillings in 1861 for not registering his dog. S.Tongs did jury service in 1862. (P.5,The Cornwall Chronicle, 3-5-1862, SUPREME COURT.)
**IIlawarra was in Gippsland.

Soon after their marriage, the couple moved to Dromana and Robert worked for Peter Pidoto who provided accommodation in a hut near the present east corner of Carrigg St.They were obviously still at Dromana in 1866 when Mary Christina was born.
Mary Christina Rowley
Born in Dromana, Victoria, Australia on 1866 to Robert Rowley and Christina Edwards.

Soon afterwards, Robert probably built the house on the foreshore opposite the original post office site and turned to fishing. He bought lots 46 and 46A in the early to mid 1880's after having probably selected them years earlier. His homestead was near Carboor St (Melway 169 D9.)

Robert loved to tell others about the old days and James Little Brown was all ears, remembering this one years after he'd stayed with Robert when he first came to Rye.
by itellya on 2013-08-09 10:45:18
In case you thought there was not that much of a connection between James Little Brown and Robert Rowley senior, this little story about how Dandenong got its name must surely paint a picture of the two chatting about the old days by the fireside.

"NO GOOD DAMPER INN."
TO THE EDITOR OF THE ARGUS.
Sir,In the interesting article, "The Gippsland Mystery," on Saturday, by Ernest McCaughan, it is stated that a party of five whites and ten blacks were sent out under the leaderhip of De Villiers, an ex-police officer who kept the extraordinary named No Good Damper Inn.

Apropos of this, a story was related to me by the late Robert Rowley, then of Rye (a very old colonist who had known Buckley, the wild white man). The story, which may be of interest, is that about the year 1840 lime was being burnt about Sorrento and Rye. A layer of sheoak logs was laid on the ground, then a layer of limestone. Another layer of logs, then again stone, and so on, until there was a considerable stack. Fire was next applied. By this rough and ready, though wasteful,system, lime used in the building of early Melbourne was then burned. The lime was then "slacked", afterwards sieved through a fine sieve, and forwarded to Melbourne by ketch. One of these old wind-jammers had the misfortune to go aground near the site of Frankston. The lime was taken off undamaged, stacked, and carefully covered a little way from the shore.

A number of blacks were in the vicinity. They had had some little experience of the white fellow's flour. When they found the lime, sieved and done up in small bags under a tarpaulin, they were sure they had got the genuine article in plenty. So they mustered in force, took away all they possibly could, and, fearing pursuit, did not stop running till they put about 12 miles between them and the stack of lime. The blacks then mixed their flour with water upon their 'possum rugs and put the dough in the ashes to bake, the result being spoiled rugs and bad damper. In the words of Mr. Rowley, "they called that place Dandenong," which means "no good damper. Yours, &c., J. L. BROWN
Sandringham, Sept. 8. (P.4, Argus, 9-9-1924.)

As well as serving the community in many roles, Robert and his descendants have contributed to the recorded history of Rye through the information they provided in interviews conducted by newspapers.

EDWARD RUSSELL.
Edward Russell was granted c/a 38A of 103 acres west of the present, but not for long, Truemans Rd tip site, on 3-11-1880 but had been in the area since the early 1850's. An old shipmate of John Watts and Tom Bennett, at the age of 17 he walked for two days from Melbourne to work for James Purves Snr (read as Peter Purves, his brother) at Tootgarook, later working for the Sullivans and driving bullocks to the goldfields for the Skeltons. At some unspecified time, he and Tom Bennett occupied a dwelling between the cemetery site and Napier St in Rye. Edward built a lime kiln near the north west corner of Melway 168 D9, but when William Allison Blair dispossessed him of the kiln by buying c/a 19 Nepean on 19-6-1867 (not 1866), Edward bought* 104 acres nearby..(*He SELECTED the 103 acre crown allotment 38A Wannaeue which could hardly be described as being NEARBY to Dundas St and didn't BUY it until 1880!)

Edward married Mary Stuart (sic?), a nurse at the Quarantine Station, whom he met when receiving medical treatment.

The above, apart from my sarcasm in brackets, comes from page 147 and maps in LAND LIME AND LEISURE.

Mary Russell who married John Cairns , Johanna who married rabbit inspector,James Thompson Cairns, Elizabeth who married Black Camp Davey Cairns, and Margaret who married Chris Cairns, were all presumably daughters of Edward and Mary. (The Cairns Fanily of Boneo.)

I don't think any record of Edward's marriage is going to be found any time soon and even family tree circle's mighty tonkin did not know his wife's maiden name, but his journal CAIRNS James married Johanna RUSSELL 1885 indicates that Edward became a very young father if he arrived at the age of 17 because Johanna's birth was registered at Pt Nepean in 1855 (there being no townships, thus registrars, at the time except at the quarantine station.)

It seems that the nurse's name was Mary SEATON, not Stuart. This is from another journal by tonkin about Chris Cairns and Margaret Russell.
Birth note.
Margaret was born 1869 in Tootgarook, Victoria.
Parents named as Edward RUSSELL and Mary SEATON.

Mary who married John Cairns was born in 1859. Thanks tonkin!
Birth note.
Mary was born 1859 White Cliffs, Victoria.
Parents named as Edward RUSSELL and Mary LEATON.
LEATON is an error and should be SEATON.

Did Edward and Mary finally crack it for a son? Possibly. Andrew?
On 15-3-1880, Edward was probably granted c/a 4, section C, Fingal, the grantee's name being written as E.Russell. Consisting of 79 a. 3 r. 27 p. and located at 253 J-K 6, it was assessed in 1919 as assessment number 363:
Mary Russell Estate (c/o A.Russell, Sorrento), 80 acres c/a 4 section C, Fingal.

A trove search for RUSSELL SORRENTO FAMILY NOTICES revealed that my guess was right and that Edward and Mary actually had two sons. Edward was the grantee of c/a 4, section C, Fingal, and was about 20 when he arrived, not 17.

RUSSELL.— On the 10th May, at his residence,"Boneo," Edward dearly loved husband of Mary Russell; dearly loved father of Mrs. D. Cairns,Flinders; Mrs. J. T. Cairns, Mrs. J. Cairns, Mrs.C. Cairns, Boneo; Alexander Russell, Sorrento; and Archibald Russell, Tooradin, aged 84 years. A colonist of 64 years.
(P.5, The Age, 14-5-1910.)

EDWARD WILLIAMS.
Edward's relationship with Sidney Smith Crispo remains one of my unsolved mysteries. It seems that Edward was Amicus.
IN MEMORIAM.
Small space I crave from you kind air,
A dead friend's worth to sing ;
Small tribute to his kindly deeds,
A kindly requiem.
God bless thee, Crispo, in thy bed,
With ti-tree blossoms strewn;
God rest the weary heart and head,
For me, all gone too soon.
What though thy brain with fancy teemed,
Fostered and led by fools;
What though thy airy castles gleamed,
Fashioned by dreamland's tools.
Beneath the haze of fancy's dreams,
A kindly heart and true;
An honest hand and steadfast will,
To fight life's battle through.
Take then thy well-earned rest, old friend,
Short space of time, and we
May meet thee on that brighter shore,
Au revoir S. S. C.
" AMICUS." (P.3, Mornington Standard, 19-10-1899.)

Edward came from Sydney in 1855 aboard a survey ship and I earlier thought that their friendship had developed on that ship but Crispo had joined the Survey in 1860.
"by gpearce on 2013-09-21 01:09:23
On the 3rd of May 1860, Sir Henry Barkly, the Governor of Victoria recommended to the Legislative Assembly that the Government enter into an agreement with the Imperial Government for the Marine Survey of the Victorian Coast, under the direction of the British Admiralty, and for the colony to share in half of the cost of the survey. The resolution was agreed to on the 11th of May 1860, and the Admiralty appointed Commander Henry Cox R.N., to take charge of the Victorian survey.

The widely travelled and highly experienced Commander Cox had immediately recognised there would be problems in trying to utilize local manpower and could ill afford the time required to train them for his requirements, so he opted to bring his assistants with him. The survey was originally estimated to take approximately 6 years to complete (it actually took 20 years)and therefore many of the team members elected to bring their families with them. The commander brought his wife and two daughters as well as his brother in-law, Sydney Crispo, who was a petty officer in the Royal Navy.

The survey team embarked in the ship Owen Glendower at Plymouth on the 10th of September 1860 and arrived safely in Melbourne three months later in December 1860. Right from the very start the survey was plagued with a number of problems, which forced a number of delays in the prosecution of the survey....

Probably in an effort to contain the deepening rift that was occurring between Cox and the Victorian Government, an order in council was issued by the Admiralty which forced the early retirement of the commander in May 1866.

In July 1866 Cox returned to England with his family, but most of the other team members elected to stay on and continue with the survey under the guidance of Commander Wilkinson R.N., who was Cox's replacement. Sydney Crispo, remained with the Victorian Coastal Survey team until it reached conclusion in 1879, under the command of Staff Commander Henry Stanley R.N. Sydney Crispo (spelt with a "y" in the 1860 Owen Glendower passenger list) not known to have ever returned to his native England and died a bachelor at Rosebud West, Victoria in 1899 at the age of 71 years." (Comment in my Crispo journal.)

However it is possible that Crispo had been stationed in Australia in the 1850's and met Edward in Sydney or Melbourne, and had anonymously written IMAGINARY HISTORY OF THE NEXT THIRTY YEARS (a copy of which is held at Flinders University but without mention of the author), on his return to England. Three things make me believe that Crispo was the author are the use of curious to describe the work, a fixation on Canada, where his father had been stationed for some time, and lastly this excerpt:"The social state of the country,however, was so unbearable, that it was obvious recourse must be had to some extraordinary measure,and the urban, commercial, and mining interests,being by far the most populous, were all for establishing a great Australian Republic — merging the several colonies into one, and all being represented in one Congress."
(Many articles in 1857 under the headline PRINCE ARTHUR KING OF AUSTRALIA. Excerpt from article in The Age.)

Mr Crispo mentioned before singing his political song,'" Amalgamate the Colonies," that he had written to the president of the Premier's meeting upon unification of the colonies, and the. Federal Capital* as held by him, and backed up by the London Times. (ROSEBUD.
Mornington Standard (Vic. : 1889 - 1908) Thursday 2 February 1899 p 2 Article)
*
Sydney's catchphrase was Amalgamate Don't Federate and that was exactly what the mysterious author had written over 40 years earlier.

Edward Williams most likely was in the crew that rowed the Survey ship's boat ashore when the captain was invited to Arthurs Seat by the Burrells. He would have received hospitality in the servants quarters or detached kitchen, which was often the case for safety reasons. One of the servants was Mary Campbell who travelled to Australia with Robert and Mary Cairns in 1852, probably acting as a nanny but with Robert her official guardian. Edward and Mary later married.
(THE CAIRNS FAMILY OF BONEO.)

Edward obviously quit the Survey ship when his term expired. Known as Ned, he built up a nest egg in various ways. "One harvester of Renown was Ned Williams, well over six feet in height and well-built. He could scythe an acre of crop per day, quite a feat in the days of hand harvesting." ( P. 96, A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA, photo on p.160.) He was supposed to have cut the first road around Anthony's Nose and later cut the channel at Chinamans Creek to drain the swamp.

In 1863-4, Crispo received grants for c/a's 36 and 38, Nepean between Canterbury Jetty Rd and St Johns Rd. Crispo had big plans for this land but was aboard the Survey ship most of the time so the claim* that Edward Williams looked after the property for him is plausible. (Possibly hidden in the WHITE genealogy in LAND, LIME,AND LEISURE.)

As you walk into the Rye Cemetery, just before the hill starts, on your left are the Kennedy/ Patterson/Stenniken graves and then Carrie Williams' grave separating the graves of James Campbell Williams and Ted Williams (unmarked) to prevent them arguing in the hereafter. Is it just coincidence that Sydney Smith's gravestone,is erected by his sister and friends, is directly across the path from Carrie's. I don't think so because Crispo died at Edward Williams' home, friends to the end.

CRISPO.—On the 13th October, at the residence of Mr. Edward Williams, Eastbourne, Rye, Sidney Smith Crispo, late secretary and paymaster, Admiralty Survey, Victoria, aged 71. Buried at Rosebud* Cemetery.
(P.1, The Argus, 18-10-1899.)
*A cemetery was gazetted at 170 H3 but never seems to have been used, both references to it being wrong. Just as well because playing tennis on graves doesn't seem very respectful.

By 1871, Crispo had received the grants for Crown allotments 52 and 44 Wannaeue, 282 acres, which he called Eastbourne. This was between the eastern boundary of today's Village Glen and Elizabeth Avenue from Eastbourne Rd (probably known as Ford's Lane) and Hiscock Rd (which was supposed to run through the swamp from Truemans Rd to Jetty Rd.)

From 1875, Edward Williams received the grants for 256 acres, 27B, 39B and 27A Wannaeue, separated from Eastbourne by Lovie' grants, and straddling Browns Rd just east of Truemans Rd. He set his sons up in a butchers shop on the corner of Hotham Rd and George St but they didn't much care for the trade and the shop was sold to George White AND THIS IS HOW CHARLES HOLLINSHED ACCIDENTALLY WROTE EDWARD WILLIAMS' BIOGRAPHY IN THE WHITE ENTRY!

In 1893, Crispo was assessed on 113 acres, reduced to 68 acres 3 roods and 13 perches, part 52 by 1898, and then obviously sold to Edward Williams before the 1899 assessment. James Campbell Williams was assessed on 170 acres of Eastbourne by 1893 as was the case till 1899. In 1893, Edward Williams was the occupant of 1510 acres including his grants, reduced to 1260 acres in 1894 and then his name disappeared from the rates. By 1900 he was rated on 69 acres (Crispo's in 1898), 170 acres (Jimmy the Squid's in 1899) and his grant, 27A. He only had about 240 acres of Eastbourne because Alex Crichton of Glenlee had added about 40 acres to Lovie's grant, the area west of Colchester Rd. Edward retained c/a 27A but Edward Connop was farming 27B and 39B.

In 1910 the rate collector really messed things up, assessing John and Marion Edwards (sic) of Eastbourne, Dromana on c/a 39 (39B) of 93 acres-and 122 acres 27B, 29A (132 acres 27B.) The effort in 1919 was almost accurate however with James Woonton (who maintained Browns Rd according to Ray Cairns) assessed on 152 acres and buildings c/a 27AB, leased from Edward Williams and MARION EDMONDS on 94 acres and buildings c/a 39A (39B.) Edward Williams had 190 acres of Eastbourne and James Campbell Williams had c/a 7 fronting Boneo Rd between Eastbourne Primary School and the line of Hiscock Rd.

WILLIAMS.—On April 29, at Dromana Community Hospital, Caroline,of Eastbourne, Rosebud West, eldest daughter of the late Edward and Mary Williams, sister of Edward (deceased). James (deceased). Ellen (Mrs. Connop, deceased), Marion (Mrs. Edmonds, deceased), aged 90 years.
(P.15, Argus, 30-4-1949.)

LOVIE.
at Lyndhurst?
THE MORDIALLOC HOUNDS. TO THE EDITOR OF THE AUSTRALASIAN.
The Australasian (Melbourne, Vic. : 1864 - 1946) Saturday 21 May 1870 p 11 Article
... off in Lovie's paddock, where a ... 75 words

FORD V. LOVIE.
This was an action to recover damages for malicious prosecution.Mr. Purves for tbe plaintiff, Mr. Higinbotbam and Mr. Spensley for defendant.

Plaintiff James Ford is a farmer near Point Nepean, and the defendant is a contractor in the same neighbourhood. In September last Lovie was summoned to the Dromana Police Court for injuring a road in the charge of the Kangerong Road Board by digging and so deepening a watercourse that crossed the road.

Mr. Ford was accidentally in court during the hearing of the case, and he was called bv the clerk of the road board as a witness. He said that he was well acquainted with the road for 15 years.Latterly the watercourse appeared to be
deeper. It had been dug, and the clay was thrown on the bank. Mr. Lovie was fined by the Bench on the charge preferred against him, and he shortly afterwards applied for summonses against all the witnesses against him for perjury. The clerk of the court and the justice endeavoured to dissuade him from
taking out summonses, as there was no reason to suspect perjury ; but he insisted, and a summons was issued against Mr. Ford and another witness.The case was heard at the Dromana Police Court, and was dismissed, the justices adding that Mr. Ford left the court without a stain on his character.

This action was then commenced against Lovie.The defence was that there was reasonable and probable cause for the prosecution, and a number of witnesses were examined for the defence to show that the creek had not been dug where it crossed the road. Lovie and one of his men admitted, however, that the bed
of the creek had been deepened up to the road and below the road, but they denied that the road was touched by them.
The jury returned a verdict for plaintiff, damages £100. (P.6, Argus, 6-3-1871.)

MONDAY, JULY 24,
At Twelve O'clock. At Knipe's Exchange,12 Collins-street West
Without Reserve
By Order of P. J Wilson, Esq. , Mortgagee.
638 Acres LAND,
Described on Government Plan as Black Alluvial Soil, Permanent Water, also Containing Inexhaustible Limestone Quarries.
PARISH of WANNAEUE,
Near Township of Rye, Sorrento. Title-Crown Grant.
J.H. KNIPE is authorised to SELL by AUCTION, as above,
Freehold Property, Being Allotments 41,42,43, and part of 40*. Section A, on Government plan of the parish of Wannaeue, county of Mornington, containing about 638 acres.

The Improvements consist of a good substantial fence enclosing each block of land separately.
Also,
A comfortable homestead, and about 80 acres ploughed, ready for cropping.
The property is well known as John Lovie's Estate.
Title open for inspection etc. (P.2, Argus, 19-7-1876.)

I found references to John Lovie at Frankston, Fitzroy, Collingwood, Ballarat and in the Mordialloc Hunt letter at the start of this entry and I believe there is a link between all of them. There may also be a link with John Francis Taylor Lovie, an early 1900's pioneer of French Island, who established "Bonnie Doon".

One of the Lovie brothers named below was probably the father of J.F.T. Lovie and I guess that Taylor was the maiden name of his mother, or maybe, grandmother.
LOVIE.— On the 4th December, at Marong, Robert,the beloved uncle of Walter* Lovie. of Canning-street, Carlton, brother of the late John Lovie, of Keele-Street. Collingwood, also of the late Detective** Lovie, aged 65. Interred at Marong on the 5th December. (P.1, The Age, 6-12-1898.)

* If you want to turn a boy into a Wally all you have to do is name him Walter or Wallace! Notice that John's first baby registered at Tootgarook was Frank-short for Francis, the second given name of J.F.T. Lovie, whose son was named William Wallace Lovie.
View service records and place a tribute for William Wallace ...
honouringanzacs.net.au/view-anzac-searched.php?aid=117312...

*Before I discovered the relationship between the Wannaeue pioneer and the detective, I had a silent chuckle when I read that the detective had arrested a man named Ford and thought of the Ford v Lovie trial that cost John 100 quid.

There is no doubt that Susan Aumont married our Wannaeue pioneer. Notice that the first birth registered at Tootgarook (Rye) was in 1870. John received the grant for crown allotment 40B, section A, Wannaeue on 3-3-1869. He bought the other 638 acres on 24-8-1875. Lovie's Estate at Wannaeue was sold in 1876 and there are no prizes for guessing where he went- back to Collingwood, his other farm apparently having been sold too.

The death of little Mary in Frankston in 1867? Her father probably selected land there in 1867. On 10-6-1872, J. Lovie had been granted crown allotments 43-47, no section, parish of Frankston, a triangular 420 acres and 37 perches bounded by Wells Rd, Seaford Rd and Frankston-Dandenong Rd, the centre of which is indicated by Melway 99 H7.
(Google FRANKSTON, COUNTY OF MORNINGTON to get the parish map.

Why did I think the Lovie paddock was in the parish of Lyndhurst. The parish of Frankston ended at Seaford Rd-except that on Long Island it adjoined James McMahon's grant in the parish of Lyndhurst on which he built the Half-way House. On the same site today stands the Riviera Hotel.

LOVIE-AUMONT.-On the 29th ult., at St. Mark's Church, Collingwood, by the Rev. Mr. Barlow, Mr. John Lovie, of Aberdeen, Scotland, to Susan Mary, eldest daughter of Mr Louis Aumont, late of Jersey.(P.4, Argus, 1-8-1862.)

John Lovie + Susan Mary Aumont - PhpGedView
www.denisbraddy.com/_research/family.php?famid=F656&ged=all...

John Lovie + Susan Mary Aumont
Children (13 children)

Walter John Lovie (I2396)
Birth 1863 -- Collingwood, Victoria, Australia
Death 1930 (Age 67) Age: 67 -- Fitzroy, Victoria, Australia

James Lovie (I2402)
Birth 1865 -- Ballarat, Victoria, Australia
Death 1865 Age: 1 month -- Ballarat, Victoria, Australia

Christine Ellen Lovie (I2403)
Birth 1866 -- Ballarat, Victoria, Australia

Mary Lovie (I2404)
Birth 1867 -- Snapper Point, Victoria, Australia
Death 1867 Age: 1 day -- Frankston, Victoria, Australia

Alice Jessie Lovie (I2405)
Birth 1868 -- Snapper Point, Victoria, Australia

Frank Lovie (I2406)
Birth 1870 -- Tootgarook, Victoria, Australia
Death 1870 Age: 1 month -- Tootgarook, Victoria, Australia

William Lovie (I2407)
Birth 1872 -- Tootgarook, Victoria, Australia

Adela Lovie (I2408)
Birth 1875 -- Tootgarook, Victoria, Australia

Robert Lovie (I2409)
Birth 1877 -- Collingwood, Victoria, Australia

Emily Matilda Lovie (I2410)
Birth 1879 -- Collingwood, Victoria, Australia
Death 1880 (Age 12 months) Age: 18 months -- Collingwood, Victoria, Australia

Florence Rosalie Lovie (I2411)
Birth 1881 -- Collingwood, Victoria, Australia

Louise Aumont Lovie (I2412)
Birth 1884 -- Collingwood, Victoria, Australia

Bertha Evelyn Lovie (I2413)
Birth 1887 -- Collingwood, Victoria, Australia

CHECK ASSESSMENTS FROM 1875. DID LOVIE RETAIN 40B OF 30.3.37?
It appears that John Lovie had sold 40B of 30 acres 3 roods 37 perches for which he had obtained the grant on 9-4-1869 before the 1875 assessment, in which he paid rates on 638 acres and a two roomed house with a net annual value of 30 pounds. There was an illegible note in the remarks column.

In 1876 there was no Lovie assessment so the west riding was searched almost to the end where I found at assessment 410:
Rolls, no given name, occupation illegible, 638 acres and buildings and a note that one pound ten shillings (of owed rates probably) had been written off on 10-2-1877.

The 1877 rates gave the new occupants' initials as J.T. or J.L., described him as a mariner, and as the owner,with the same property size and net annual value.

My conclusion is that Rolls had bought the property from John's mortgagee on 24-7-1876, a month or so before the rates were levied, but the rate collector was aware that a forced sale of the property was on the cards and had not written a Lovie assessment. Because ratepayers had to be listed alphabetically, rate collectors copied the previous year's assessment well before the September meeting and then crossed out the occupant's name, replacing it with that of his successor if there was a change. It was not done in this case but not much detail was available about the new owner.

NEW JOB. CHECK BACKWARDS TO SEE IF JOHN WAS RATED ON 668 ACRES, AND TILL WHEN; ALSO CHECK FORWARD FROM 1878 TO SEE WHEN ALEX CRICHTON TOOK OVER THE 638 ACRES FROM ROLLS.
I didn't bother going back past 1872 because the rate collector obviously had no idea what property John Lovie had and most likely things weren't going to improve. In 1874 there was no description of the property but a net annual value of 30 pounds had somehow been established. This value continued from 1872 till 1877 and rose to 50 pounds in 1878, Alexander having Crichton purchased 638 acres from John Thomas Rolls 2. The 1873 record stated that John Lovie had a two roomed house and in the faintest possible writing 660. In 1872 there was no description of the property. With such poor description of a rated property, I might as well just guess what was going on, and confirm it tomorrow if I remember. On 9-4-1869, John Lovie was granted 40B Wannaeue of 30 acres. If he had this property in 1868, it would mean he had selected the land,; if not, he'd bought it at auction. He was granted the other 638 acres on 24-8-1875, probably having selected these allotments some years earlier, perhaps in 1872. This would explain why the rate collector wasn't aware how much land he had in 1872. The rate collector was aware in 1873 that John had 40B of 30 acres and possibly misread the other 638 acres as 630 acres. In 1872, the rate collector may have known that Lovie was also leasing land from the crown but lacked any details about it. By 1874. the rate collector may have heard that Lovie had sold some land.
CHECK BACK FROM 1871.
1871.No assessment nos. J.Lovie, 30 acres and 2 roomed house, Wannaeue, N.A.V. 10 pounds.
1870. No ass. nos. J.Lovie, 138 acres, 2 roomed house, Wannaeue, N.A.V. 10 pounds.
1869. 116. J.Lovie (owned by him) 138 acres and hut, Wannaeue, N.A.V.10 pounds.
1864-8. No Lovie assessment.

The above is crazy because the addition of a room to the house should have increased the N.A.V. by about 2 pounds and you'd expect some decrease in the N.A.V. when his land went from 138 acres to 30 acres. John did not OWN 138 acres in 1869 and 1870; until the grant for the 638 acres was issued on 21-8-1875, he could have only owned the 30 acres, 40B, for which the grant was issued on 9-4-1869. The 138 acres on which he was rated does not equate to the 30 acres plus any other of the allotments, nor any other single allotment or combination thereof.

The rate collector was as helpful as an udder on a bull (to make the old saying more G rated)so I gambled on a trove search for 40B Wannaeue search in the 1870's (after 30 acres Wannaeue didn't work) and found:

TRANSFER of LAND STATUTE.-Notice Is hereby given, that pursuant to the direction of the Commissioner of Titles in this behalf, it Is Intended, at the expiration of fourteen days from the insertion of this advertisement in the Melbourne "Argus" newspaper, to issue to JAMES BONHAM, of Catherine street, Richmond, contractor, a special certificate of title to the land described below, the duplicate certificate having, as is alleged, been lost;-

LAND REFERRED To.
Crown Allotment 40B, Section A, parish of Wannacue, county of Mornington.
HENRY KRONE,Assistant Registrar of Titles. William Spark Woolcott, 39 Queen-Street, Melbourne.
(P.8, Argus, 17-5-1876.)
...and then this, which probably gives the date and memorial for John Lovie's sale of his first grant in Wannaeue.

LOST, CERTIFICATE of TITLE to James Bonham, Vol. 884, fol. 166,680, dated February 15, 1876. Reward on returning same to W. S. Woolcott, solicitor,30 Queen Street, Melbourne. (P.1, Argus, 28-3-1876.)




N.B. See FORD entry.

S.S. CRISPO.
I call Sydney Smith Crispo, the Peninsula's Don Quixote, because of that great song from THE MAN OF LA MANCHA, "To Dream the Impossible Dream". Edward Williams seems to have been his closest friend in the area and I believe he penned the verse included in the WILLIAMS entry that contains the following lines expressing much the same idea:
What though thy brain with fancy teemed,
Fostered and led by fools;
What though thy airy castles gleamed,
Fashioned by dreamland's tools.

Much detail about Sydney and "Eastbourne" is included in the WILLIAMS entry.
Evidence of his interest in politics, and solving problems, is given in his own words in my journal:
THERE WOULD BE NO SORRENTO WITHOUT Sidney Smith CRISPO of ...
www.familytreecircles.com/sidney-smith-crispo-of-eastbourne-rosebud-...

How many amateur performers at concerts at Rosebud, Sorrento etc. could perform a one-man-show lasting two hours and keep the audience in rapture? How many residents of the Peninsula would have had the audacity to invite the Governor (Lord Brassey) to visit? (The Governor did visit but couldn't find Rye, although he thought Dr John Blair's "Blairgowrie" might be the town hall!) Only our Don Quixote could have suggested that the colonies be amalgamated, not federated, to form a nation, which would have prevented costly and wasteful Federal/State duplication. Who else would suggest that Australia's capital city should be at Rosebud West (Eastbourne renamed as Federanium. He was a character, for sure!

There is much Crispo genealogical information, including the family's proud naval tradition,in my DRAMA* ON TROVE (*Dromana, Rosebud and Miles Around) which will be provided on request. This extract is my poem about Sydney.
S.S.C. by itellya.
Amalgamate, don't federate
For the making of a nation
To prevent wasteful State
And Federal duplication.

As for the site of the capital,
We need a place that's central.
The Monaro is a place forlorn;
The ideal place is my "Eastbourne".

The hall was packed for his one-man show,
Over twenty items in a row:
Readings, recitations, instrumentation funny
To raise some more community money.

Born of a naval dynasty,
He built the Canterbury jetty
And told the tale of Sorrento Town
Ere steamers started coming down.

Growing beet sugar, exporting meat,
A range of interests so complete.
His mind always sought adventure:
Our own Knight of La Mancha.






Near Boneo Rd.
MARKS. (CAIRNS)

PURVES (CAIN 4,5,6.)

BLAIR C/A 7 WILLIAMS
CAIRNS (MENSTRIE MAINS & LITTLE SCOTLAND)

FORD (WANNAEUE COOK, RAPER PINE PLANTATION, COUNTRY CLUB)

CRICHTON.

BARKER (JAMES CONNELL'S OBITUARY RE FIRST FOOTY BLOODBATH.)


FORD,
FORD'S LANE (BONEO IN 1902 JOURNAL) & ROPER'S LANE RAPER. PINE PLANTATION, COUNTRY CLUB.

PASTED FROM THE WILLIAM FORD ENTRY IN MY JOURNAL ABOUT THE SHIRE OF FLINDERS.
At this time (circa 1880) William owned and resided on the Wannaeue Estate between Rosebud and Boneo, consisting of 661 acres 1 rood and 22 perches, being crown allotments 8-11, section A, Wannaeue. As a returning officer for the West Riding he was to be contacted there (advertisements.) The estate was bounded by Eastbourne Rd, Jetty Rd (and 400 metres of Old Cape Schanck Rd), an unmade government road which ran between the south end of the Rosebud Country Club's frontages to Boneo and Old Cape Schanck Rds (jokingly called Hiscock Rd west of Boneo Rd), and Boneo Rd on the west. The 167 acres (nearly) between Eastbourne Rd and Besgrove St was granted to Henry Reynolds and the rest to James Ford. (See Melway map 171.)

While a councillor and living on Wannaeue Station, William Ford had a famous cook! I was reminded of this while watching "High Tide", a history of the British navy.

It is not generally known says the Argus, Melbourne, of the 19th, that one of those who took part in the celebrated naval duel in 1813 between the English frigate Shannon, 36 guns, and the American frigate Chesapeake, 50 guns, is living in the colony in hale and hearty health. His name is Thomas Salmon, and he will be 80 years of age next month. He is employed as cook on the station of Mr. Ford, at Wannaeue, between Rye and Dromana. He appears to be likely to do a good day's work for several years to come, and is only too willing to relate the particulars of the naval confliction in which he was concerned. He narrates with great gusto the fact that it only took them in the Shannon 30 minutes to polish off the Chesapeake ; and speaks with some pride of the circumstance that Captain Broke, of the Shannon, and his first lieutenant, were the first to cut their way through the boarding nettings on to the Chesapeake's deck, when the boatswain piped "boarders away." The old man has a most thorough contempt for the present style of ironclad men-of-war, which he refers to as "iron pots." The old salt is a "character," and is always ready to spin a yarn relative to his adventures afloat or in the bush. (P.11, The Maitland Mercury and Hunter River General Advertiser,24-2-1877.)

See the LOVIE entry re a FORD hitting him (for perjury that is!) James Ford, William Ford's father, did a fair bit of damaging himself so it's ironic that he was so upset about Lovie damaging Browns Rd at Melway 169 G11. James Ford had been transported for machine breaking and in 1859, the founder and namer of Portsea was, with Peter Purves of Tootgarook Station, the perpetrator of a dodgy petition against the government's plans to built a fence from White Cliff to the back beach to stop the cattle of those two and a few others, such as George White, grazing in the police paddock; this, if successful, would have been damaging for the government which would have been required to buy fodder, and many of the signatories who actually supported construction of the fence.

James Ford lived at Portsea but would have spent much time travelling between there and the Wannaeue Estate (and 13AB, section B, Wannaeue on the west side of Purves Rd, which would make Browns Rd his preferred route rather than Ford's Lane (Eastbourne Rd.) If he'd gone the other way, Lovie might have been a Wannaeue pioneer for much longer.



GLASS.(29+29+20+20+16) PLUS C/A 16, HINDHOPE & THE THICKET (RANDALL, RIGG , McCOMB & COUPAR, ALF RAWLINGS)

Bay frontage east of Norm Clark Walk.
WOOLCOTT
ST ALBANS
ISACC WHITE
ADAMS
BURRELL AND McCRAE

East of Cape Schanck and Grasslands Rd.
BACK ROAD BOB CAIRNS
WILLIAM HOBLEY
TOWNSEND
PEATEY

WILLIAM CRIPPS.
William Cripps received his grants in 1879 and 1884 but must have selected 18A1 in 1870 or earlier because he had made the track through what became Back Road Bob Cairns' selection in about 1870. The track was most likely Cairn Rd (which should be called Cairns Rd!)which links up perfectly with the west boundary of the Burrells' Arthurs Seat pre-emptive right, today's The Avenue. Back Road Bob and his son were using this track in about 1905 in the role of trespassers when his witness in this case, Robert Henry Adams, threatened them with a shovel for trespassing on his land.

The road that Mr Stephens said William should have used is Hove Rd, This would have involved travelling 3400 metres, as opposed to 1400 metres on the track that William had made twelve years earlier, to reach Melway 159 A 11 on the way to the Dromana Pier.And with the speed that bullocks travelled that would add hours extra to deliver a load and return for the next. The private track that Robert Cairns had made was almost certainly Cairn Rd which leads directly to Marina Crescent where his "Fernvilla" homestead still apparently stands. Bullockies used drags to descend steep inclines safely and Robert obviously didn't want ruts along his private track.

Robert Cairns v John Cripps; assault and trespass, £10. Mr Stephens for plaintiff and Mr Hornby for defendant.
Mr Hornby raised objection to procedure on the ground that the two causes for action should not be embodied on one summons, and referred his Honor to Section 46, Rule 57 in support.
Mr Stephen opposed Mr Hornby's dictum and said his client claimed £19 for the assault and £10 for the trespass, or together £19 only.
Mr Hornby objected to such a course being pursued, and asked his Honor for a non-suit on the ground stated.

His Honor overruled the objection, and Mr Stephen said his client, a farmer and selector at Wannaeue claimed £19 for assault and trespass. The defendant is also a selector near to plaintiff, and took the liberty to
cart large quantities of heavy firewood in wet weather over the plaintiff's land, which cut it up and did a large amount of damage. His client had often remonstrated and cautioned him not to do so, and in return got
nothing but abuse, and in the present case was violently assaulted whilst erecting a fence to prevent defendant trespassing. The defendant persisted in his trespass, and his client came to the Court to obtain the protection due to all. The action taken by his client was not in a malicious spirit, as the defendant had been repeatedly cautioned, and the only redress the plaintiff could obtain was coming to this Court. As a proof of this had he taken the case into the Supreme Court-which he could have done-the defendant would have been a ruined man. He
had persisted in doing a wrong to the plaintiff, finally violently assaulting him, and called the plaintiff.

Robert Cairns deposed: Was a farmer and selector at Wannacue near Dromana. Held a selection of 51 acres part of Government lot 32, and the defendant trespassed with bullocks and waggon on part of selection. Have been in possession 3 1/2 years and hold occupation license. I recollect the 14th of June and saw defendant on my land on that day +with a team of bullocks and waggon laden with wood. I spoke to him in a quiet friendly manner, and told him it was very wrong and foolish of him to trespass on my land, and that I would no longer quietly suffer the damage he was doing me, and I would not permit my own brother quietly to so injure me, and warned him to not again cross the land.

To his Honor: The defendant said it was doing no harm.

To Mr Stephen: On the following day,15th, I saw him again with his load bogged on my land. I again warned him. He partly unloaded his waggon and continued his trespass by cartage. On the 16th I went and took posts and rails to fence across at certain places to stop his carting. The defendant was there, and he asked me if I was
going to fence across the place and prevent him crossing. I told him I was. He then swore at me and called me vile names. He left and returned with his sons and again abused me. He removed the posts and rail I had partially erected, and as he was driving through he raised the butt end of his whip and struck me violently. I have had the land between three and four years. Made a private track some five years ago. I have cut the
principal portions of the timber off my selection.

Mr Stephen then called R.H.Adams, who stated that he was a farmer. Knew both the plaintiff and defendant's selections; adjoin his own. Saw Cripps carting wood over Cairns' land. Warned him not to cart over my land.
Lent Cairns some posts and fails, and went to Cairns' place and had a cup of tea.

To Mr Stephen,- I saw Cripps strike Cairns with the butt end of his whip handle and I saw the bruise for days after. The defendant had a lot of wood behind his waggon on the ground as a drag, which tore up the ground.

To Mr Hornby.-Know Cripps well, the piece of land in question has not been used as a public track ; have not been in trouble myself about a horse or cow.

Mr Hornby briefly addressed his Honor,submitting that there was no case, his client had simply been making use of an old track, and one he had made years ago. His Honour thought there was a case, he would think so too if he had been struck over the head with the butt end of a bullock whip.

Mr Hornby proceeded and pointed out the defendant held a license to cut timber, and simply used the old track, and called the defendant who said his name was Wm Cripps and not Jos. Cripps. Mr.Hornby called his Honor's attention to the fact that the wrong person had been summoned.
His Honour overuled, and permitted correction.

Defendant in reply to Mr. Hornby, deposed: Was a selector and farmer at Wannaeue and held a license to cut timber off crown lands adjoining plaintiff's property. Made the track along which he was carting 12 year ago. On the occasion in question had a load, and it was the only way possible to get the wood out from the place he had cut it.
To His Honor: There is no other outlet from the land.

Mr. Stephen pointed out there was a road as shown on the plan at the back portion and that defendant had no business on plaintiff's land if he could not get out.
Examination continued by Mr. Hornby: Plaintiff Cairns knew I was in the habit of going that way, and has had the selection about 4 years, and has not fenced. He never made any objection before to my using my
track.
To His Honor : I was carting wood on the day, and Cairns objected. I never hit him on the head with my whip butt. I was on his land when the alleged assault took place, and when I came along the track with my load, Cairns stood in the centre and attempted to stop my bullocks. They swerved off the line, and getting them again into the track, had to make use of my whip, and I believe the whip caught Cairns's hat and knocked it off. It was quite accidental, and Cairns tells a deliberate lie when he says I intentionally struck him with the butt of my whip.
To Mr. Stephens: Cairns did not come to me as stated on the 14th, and caution me not to again use the track.
To His Honor: He did not tell me on the 14th. He told my son I believe on that day, but my son did not tell me. The day of the alleged assault, the 16th June, was not the first day he had cautioned me.
Cross-examined by Mr. Stephens : I did not make use of any parliamentary language to the plaintiff on the occasion. I was dragging the wood down the hill, and was ignorant as to whether he had given the selection up, as it was unfenced. I know Mr. Townsend, but have not quarrelled with him. He is a neighbour. Defendant also
stated that both Cairns and Adams had a regular down upon him, and bore him anything but a friendly feeling.

Mr. Hornby then called defendant's son, Wm. Thomas Cripps, who in reply to Mr. Hornby, said he was with his father on the 16th June. Saw Cairns at the same time. His father did not strike Cairns. Cairns stood in the middle of the track with a rail in his hand, and said the bullocks should not cross or pass that way. My father did not strike him intentionally with his whip.
Cross-examined by Mr. Stephen : There was no hot blood or quarreling on the occasion. His father's whip accidentally caught Cairns' hat and pulled it off, and he removed it out of his way with his foot. My father carted three loads afterwards. I don't remember Cairns cautioning my father not to cross that way on the 14th June. We did not do much work on the 15th June in consequence of the bullocks having strayed. My father has been across on two occasions since the 16th June, and I have been across with him.

Mr. Hornby then called Albert Cripps, a son of defendant, who in reply to that gentleman, said he was with his father on the 16th June, and as they were going along the road with the team, Cairns stood in the road with a
stick and tried to turn the bullocks. His father's whip caught Cairns' hat and knocked it off his head. I was not on the ground on the 14th June, but was on the 15th. Did not see the wheels of the waggon bogged.

Mr. Hornby then addressed His Honor, and contended there was no proof of an assault having been committed. Three witnesses to two proved to the non-assault. So far as the trespass was concerned, it might have occurred. The plaintiff had held the land for over 4 years, and had neglected to fence it, and his client thought he had given it up, and very reasonably so, and would leave the matter in his Honor's hands.

Mr. Stephen thought that the trespass and assault had been very clearly proved, and the fact of the defendant bringing in two of his own children into that court (mildly speaking) to commit perjury in the fact that they
distinctly swear they never saw any assault with the butt of the whip committed. The plaintiff and Mr. Adams, two respectable men, both swear distinctly to the assault, and being a most aggrieved one.

His Honor briefly referred to the points of evidence, and gave plaintiff a verdict for £10 and £6/1/0 costs. (P.3, South Bourke and Mornington Journal, 18-10-1882.)

THIS DAY.At the Rooms, At Twelve O'clock.
lOO-ACRE FARM at WANNAEUE, Four Miles from Dromana.BUILDING BLOCK,TANTI-ROAD, SCHNAPPER POINT.
C.J. and T. HAM are Instructed by Mr. W.Cripps to SELL, as above,
Land, comprising 101 acres 1 rood 4 perches,being Sections 18 A1 and 30c, parish of Wannaeue,having a frontage to tho Cape-Schanck road, at Wannaeue, Mornington, within four miles of Dromana.
The extension of the railway to Schnapper Point must tend to benefit of this land. Title Crown grant.
Land being portion of Crown Allotment 8, parish of Moorooduc, having; a frontage of 180ft. to Tanti-road by a depth of 133ft.This desirable allotment is on the coach route, and convenient to the township. Title Certificate. (P.4, Argus, 10-6-1886.)

MORNINGTON. TUESDAY.
At the Police Court to day, Constable M'Grath charged William Cripps, the owner of a passenger coach plying between Mornington and Frankston. with using insulting language in the public road, viz., calling the
passengers in a rival coach "a lot of Van Diemonians", and also with negligent driving and obstructing the public road on the 2nd inst The Bench found the defendant guilty, and fined him £10 on the first charge,
dismissing the two others.(P.7, Argus, 14-7-1886.)

William Cripps' Wannaeue land was bought by T.Evans, along with John Townsend's grants but two years later, the mortgagee was selling both farms. Advertising
The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954) Friday 15 June 1888 p 2 Advertising
... above are known as formerly the selection of Messrs. Townscud and Cripps, and recently Mr. T. F. Evans .

It looks like William decided firewood supply wasn't going to be profitable if he had to go the log way and decided to move to the Big Smoke (Mornington) in 1884 and remembered that he and Thirza intended to do something. Now what was it? Something to do with Albert, wasn't it?

Person Details for Thirza Cripps in entry for Albert Cripps ...
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTZ7-JFW

Name Albert Cripps
Gender Male
Christening Date 03 Oct 1884
Christening Place Moorooduc, Victoria, Australia
Birth Date 19 Jan 1869
Name Note Mornington, Victoria, Australia
Father's Name William Cripps
Mother's Name Thirza Cripps

Albert's details are missing from this genealogy page. The first-born would have been the other son who testified re the Robert Cairns charge of trespass and assault. One of the girls is buried at Mornington. I think it was Eva who married William McGrath. I wonder if Eva's husband was a descendant of Constable McGrath!There were actually ten children. See the end of my WILLIAM CRIPPS journal.

Thirza /WELLS/ Desc. - burrowes.org
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Marriage

William /CRIPPS/ Draw Desc. Tree.
b. 1839 at Richmond, Surrey, UK
d.
M.1.

Thirza /WELLS/ Parents. Draw Anc. Tree. Draw Desc. Tree.
b. Jun 1840 at St Luke's, London City, London, UK
d. 1921 at South Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
M.1.

Marriage. 1861 at Cranbourne, Victoria, Australia

Children

William Thomas /CRIPPS/ Draw Anc. Tree.
b. 1861 at Cranbourne, Victoria, Australia
d. 1885 at Snapper Point, Victoria, Australia
Jacob John /CRIPPS/ Draw Anc. Tree.
b. 1864
d. 1866
Eunice Ann /CRIPPS/ Draw Anc. Tree. Draw Desc. Tree.
b. 1866 at Brighton, Victoria, Australia
d.
M.1.

Minnie /CRIPPS/ Draw Anc. Tree. Draw Desc. Tree.
b. 1872 at Dromana, Victoria, Australia
d. 1960 at Hampton, Victoria, Australia
M.1.

Georgina /CRIPPS/ Draw Anc. Tree. Draw Desc. Tree.
b. 1874 at Dromana, Victoria, Australia
d. 1948 at Richmond, Victoria, Australia
M.1.

Leslie /CRIPPS/ Draw Anc. Tree.
b. 1878 at St Kilda, Victoria, Australia
d.
Victor /CRIPPS/ Draw Anc. Tree. Draw Desc. Tree.
b. 1878 at St Kilda, Victoria, Australia
d. 1955 at Edithvale, Victoria, Australia
M.1.

Eva /CRIPPS/ Draw Anc. Tree. Draw Desc. Tree.
b. 1881 at Dromana, Victoria, Australia
d. 1925 at Werribee, Victoria, Australia
M.1.



JOHN ROBERTS.
ROSEBUD--By Executors late John Roberts-Allotment 18A2, Wannaeue,58 acres (next Cripps'. 1.5 mile south from
Rosebud State School, netting fenced, partly cleared. Apply McCONCHIE, Rosebud P.O, or BRADY, Mt Evergreen, Rosebud. (P.2, Mornington Standard, 15-1-1916.)


TAFFS
TUTE
BARNABY
BRADY

Near Purves Rd.
CHAPMAN.
YOEMAN JAMES PURVES.
PROFESSOR HEARN.
ROWLEY.
BAYNE.

Near Main Creek Rd.
JAMES DAVEY (HILLIS)
ROBERT JAMES (BULLOCKY BOB WHITE.)
CHARLES JAMES (Hillis)
SHAND
WILLIAM JOHNSTONE AND GEORGE JOHNSTONE
CAIN (LOGIC BEHIND "MIDWAY")
HOPCRAFT.

LOVIE.
at Lyndhurst?
THE MORDIALLOC HOUNDS. TO THE EDITOR OF THE AUSTRALASIAN.
The Australasian (Melbourne, Vic. : 1864 - 1946) Saturday 21 May 1870 p 11 Article
... off in Lovie's paddock, where a ... 75 words

FORD V. LOVIE.
This was an action to recover damages for malicious prosecution.Mr. Purves for tbe plaintiff, Mr. Higinbotbam and Mr. Spensley for defendant.
Plaintiff James Ford is a farmer near Point Nepean, and the defendant is a contractor in the same neighbourhood. In September last Lovie was summoned to the Dromana Police Court for injuring a road in the charge of the Kangerong Road Board by digging and so deepening a watercourse that crossed the road.
Mr. Ford was accidentally in court during the hearing of the case, and he was called bv the clerk of the road board as a witness. He said that he was well acquainted with the road for 15 years.Latterly the watercourse appeared to be deeper. It had been dug, and the clay was thrown on the bank. Mr. Lovie was fined by the Bench on the charge preferred against him, and he shortly afterwards applied for summonses against all the witnesses against him for perjury. The clerk of the court and the justice endeavoured to dissuade him from
taking out summonses, as there was no reason to suspect perjury ; but he insisted, and a summons was issued against Mr. Ford and another witness.The case was heard at the Dromana Police Court, and was dismissed, the justices adding that Mr. Ford left the court without a stain on his character.

This action was then commenced against Lovie.The defence was that there was reasonable and probable cause for the prosecution, and a number of witnesses were examined for the defence to show that the creek had not been dug where it crossed the road. Lovie and one of his men admitted, however, that the bed
of the creek had been deepened up to the road and below the road, but they denied that the road was touched by them.
The jury returned a verdict for plaintiff, damages £100. (P.6, Argus, 6-3-1871.)

MONDAY, JULY 24,
At Twelve O'clock. At Knipe's Exchange,12 Collins-street West
Without Reserve
By Order of P. J Wilson, Esq. , Mortgagee.
638 Acres LAND,
Described on Government Plan as Black Alluvial Soil, Permanent Water, also Containing Inexhaustible Limestone Quarries.
PARISH of WANNAEUE,
Near Township of Rye, Sorrento. Title-Crown Grant.
J.H. KNIPE is authorised to SELL by AUCTION, as above,
Freehold Property, Being Allotments 41,42,43, and part of 40*. Section A, on Government plan of the parish of Wannaeue, county of Mornington, containing
about 638 acres.
The Improvements consist of a good substantial fence enclosing each block of land separately.
Also, A comfortable homestead, and about 80 acres ploughed, ready for cropping.
The property is well known as John Lovie's Estate.
Title open for inspection etc. (P.2, Argus, 19-7-1876.)

I found references to John Lovie at Frankston, Fitzroy, Collingwood, Ballarat and in the Mordialloc Hunt letter at the start of this entry and I believe there is a link between all of them. There may also be a link with John Francis Taylor Lovie, an early 1900's pioneer of French Island, who established "Bonnie Doon".
One of the Lovie brothers named below was probably the father of J.F.T. Lovie and I guess that Taylor was the maiden name of his mother, or maybe, grandmother.
LOVIE.— On the 4th December, at Marong, Robert,the beloved uncle of Walter* Lovie. of Canning-street, Carlton, brother of the late John Lovie, of Keele-Street. Collingwood, also of the late Detective** Lovie, aged 65. Interred at Marong on the 5th December. (P.1, The Age, 6-12-1898.)

* If you want to turn a boy into a Wally all you have to do is name him Walter or Wallace! Notice that John's first baby registered at Tootgarook was Frank-short for Francis, the second given name of J.F.T. Lovie, whose son was named William Wallace Lovie.
View service records and place a tribute for William Wallace ...
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*Before I discovered the relationship between the Wannaeue pioneer and the detective, I had a silent chuckle when I read that the detective had arrested a man named Ford and thought of the Ford v Lovie trial that cost John 100 quid.

There is no doubt that Susan Aumont married our Wannaeue pioneer. Notice that the first birth registered at Tootgarook (Rye) was in 1870. John received the grant for crown allotment 40B, section A, Wannaeue on 3-3-1869. He bought the other 638 acres on 24-8-1875. Lovie's Estate at Wannaeue was sold in 1876 and there are no prizes for guessing where he went- back to Collingwood, his other farm apparently having been sold too.

The death of little Mary in Frankston in 1867? Her father probably selected land there in 1867. On 10-6-1872, J. Lovie had been granted crown allotments 43-47, no section, parish of Frankston, a triangular 420 acres and 37 perches bounded by Wells Rd, Seaford Rd and Frankston-Dandenong Rd, the centre of which is indicated by Melway 99 H7.
(Google FRANKSTON, COUNTY OF MORNINGTON to get the parish map.

Why did I think the Lovie paddock was in the parish of Lyndhurst. The parish of Frankston ended at Seaford Rd-except that on Long Island it adjoined James McMahon's grant in the parish of Lyndhurst on which he built the Half-way House. On the same site today stands the Riviera Hotel.

HERE'S THE PROOF THAT SUSAN'S HUSBAND WAS THE WANNAEUE PIONEER.
LOVIE-AUMONT.-On the 29th ult., at St. Mark's Church, Collingwood, by the Rev. Mr. Barlow, Mr. John Lovie, of Aberdeen, Scotland, to Susan Mary, eldest daughter of Mr Louis Aumont, late of Jersey.(P.4, Argus, 1-8-1862.)

John Lovie + Susan Mary Aumont - PhpGedView
www.denisbraddy.com/_research/family.php?famid=F656&ged=all...
John Lovie + Susan Mary Aumont
Children (13 children)

Walter John Lovie (I2396)
Birth 1863 -- Collingwood, Victoria, Australia
Death 1930 (Age 67) Age: 67 -- Fitzroy, Victoria, Australia

James Lovie (I2402)
Birth 1865 -- Ballarat, Victoria, Australia
Death 1865 Age: 1 month -- Ballarat, Victoria, Australia

Christine Ellen Lovie (I2403)
Birth 1866 -- Ballarat, Victoria, Australia

Mary Lovie (I2404)
Birth 1867 -- Snapper Point, Victoria, Australia
Death 1867 Age: 1 day -- Frankston, Victoria, Australia

Alice Jessie Lovie (I2405)
Birth 1868 -- Snapper Point, Victoria, Australia

Frank Lovie (I2406)
Birth 1870 -- Tootgarook, Victoria, Australia
Death 1870 Age: 1 month -- Tootgarook, Victoria, Australia

William Lovie (I2407)
Birth 1872 -- Tootgarook, Victoria, Australia

Adela Lovie (I2408)
Birth 1875 -- Tootgarook, Victoria, Australia

Robert Lovie (I2409)
Birth 1877 -- Collingwood, Victoria, Australia

Emily Matilda Lovie (I2410)
Birth 1879 -- Collingwood, Victoria, Australia
Death 1880 (Age 12 months) Age: 18 months -- Collingwood, Victoria, Australia

Florence Rosalie Lovie (I2411)
Birth 1881 -- Collingwood, Victoria, Australia

Louise Aumont Lovie (I2412)
Birth 1884 -- Collingwood, Victoria, Australia

Bertha Evelyn Lovie (I2413)
Birth 1887 -- Collingwood, Victoria, Australia

DESCENDANTS OF THE ABOVE CAN BE FOUND BY CLICKING THE BOXES ON DENIS BRADDY'S WEBSITE.

THE WANNAEUE MAP DIDN'T SUBMIT. Google WANNAEUE, COUNTY OF MORNINGTON. John's grants partly fronted Browns and Truemans Rds.